http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-21411304 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-21411304)
Talk about an overrated position on the world stage. I was once a catholic and oh well that's all there is to say!
Quote from: The Stranger on February 11, 2013, 05:55:13 AM
Talk about an overrated position on the world stage. I was once a catholic and oh well that's all there is to say!
I still am but if they make a "politically correct" pick for the next one...I'll be joining you as an ex-one. 'Nuff said...
Quote from: Turks on February 11, 2013, 05:59:15 AM
I still am but if they make a "politically correct" pick for the next one...I'll be joining you as an ex-one. 'Nuff said...
Please see this. A black pope?
http://www.vatican.va/news_services/press/documentazione/documents/cardinali_biografie/cardinali_bio_turkson_pka_en.html (http://www.vatican.va/news_services/press/documentazione/documents/cardinali_biografie/cardinali_bio_turkson_pka_en.html)
I wonder if he decision was based on decades of believing one way, only to discover politics is at it's core.
Like the imaginary "Mr Smith goes to Washington" syndrome, one wants to make change, only to discover others do not share in your beliefs.
Now he's just to old to fight any longer.
Quote from: quiller on February 11, 2013, 06:12:02 AM
Please see this. A black pope?
http://www.vatican.va/news_services/press/documentazione/documents/cardinali_biografie/cardinali_bio_turkson_pka_en.html (http://www.vatican.va/news_services/press/documentazione/documents/cardinali_biografie/cardinali_bio_turkson_pka_en.html)
I did, thanks.
Quote from: The Stranger on February 11, 2013, 05:55:13 AM
Talk about an overrated position on the world stage. I was once a catholic and oh well that's all there is to say!
I agree, but to the followers of the Faith, he is the last word of God.
And the Church has quite a following and is deeply entwined politically, many on the left as well.
Peter Kodwo Appiah was in favor of the socialist scam Tobin Tax, it would seem this cardinal is on the far left.
I'll never believe his reason for retiring was as he supposedly stated, that age and fraility was the reason for his retirement. Too much has confronted the church in areas that don't go along with their faith.
Quote from: keyboarder on February 11, 2013, 09:31:42 AM
I'll never believe his reason for retiring was as he supposedly stated, that age and fraility was the reason for his retirement. Too much has confronted the church in areas that don't go along with their faith.
It's all politics in the end.
"Because his nearly eight years on the Throne of the Fisherman never really produced the results he hoped for. He did not unite the conservative and progressive wings of the Catholic Church. He did not re-establish its place in Europe, the work of a previous Pope Benedict and the reason he took that name. Nor did he expand its foothold in Asia, cement its dominance in Latin America, or make serious inroads in Africa. And he did not bring to fruition the ecumenical understanding with other major faiths that he hoped would bloom during his reign."
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/02/11/as-vatican-leader-pope-benedict-never-had-chance/#ixzz2Kc4YeWCr (http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/02/11/as-vatican-leader-pope-benedict-never-had-chance/#ixzz2Kc4YeWCr)
Quote from: keyboarder on February 11, 2013, 09:31:42 AM
I'll never believe his reason for retiring was as he supposedly stated, that age and fraility was the reason for his retirement. Too much has confronted the church in areas that don't go along with their faith.
The left is excellent in infiltrating organizations and government departments/directorates. Their political ideology is their religion, whereas we seperate ideology and religion. I don't go to Church to talk about economics, but they do. I.e East Germany Catholic Church claimed communism is the only form of government in compliance with christianity.
Don't be surprised if this is the next Pope.
http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/tag/cardinal-peter-turkson/ (http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/tag/cardinal-peter-turkson/)
I am a Catholic, always will be. The definition of Catholic will change- I will not.
Quote from: Turks on February 11, 2013, 09:37:33 AM
Don't be surprised if this is the next Pope.
http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/tag/cardinal-peter-turkson/ (http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/tag/cardinal-peter-turkson/)
I am not Catholic, so I don't have a dog in this fight. However, I can see a real philosophical struggle within the church if a "leftist" Pope is elected. The worldwide tax mentioned in the article is truly controversial.
Time for a Pope under 70...
Quote from: The Boo Man... on February 11, 2013, 02:09:14 PM
Time for a Pope under 70...
LOL all 70 did for me was slow me down. It just takes me longer to get from point A to point B. The nice thing about it. I have more time to think as my brain has not slowed down. I have alway found that when you get to point B you start thinking about something other then what you were thinking. :lol: I will say that age has gives me more time and wisdom then I had at 50 or 60.
I'd love to know the REAl reason he is Giving up the Position.
Billy
The REAL reason is his age. Despite my feelings about the origin of this church, I don't believe this man is a LIAR. Is that what you all believe?
My mom died a couple weeks ago at 79 1/2. There were HUGE changes in her mentally and physically the last few months of her life. She went SUDDENLY from being a "senior citizen" to a frail old woman who couldn't even walk without assistance. She couldn't climb a curb without hanging on to something. Her memory failed rapidly as well. All this took place in less than 6 months. Old age sucks. I wish him well in his last days. He was wise to recognize his limitations before it became a problem.
And why does choosing a black pope HAVE to be an "affirmative action" pick? The one that is a likely successor is described a culturally conservative.
Quote from: BILLY Defiant on February 11, 2013, 02:33:21 PM
I'd love to know the REAl reason he is Giving up the Position.
Billy
Lent.
Okay, I'll shut up now.
A potentially explosive report has linked the resignation of Pope Benedict XVI to the discovery of a network of gay prelates in the Vatican, some of whom – the report said – were being blackmailed by outsiders.
The pope's spokesman declined to confirm or deny the report, which was carried by the Italian daily newspaper La Repubblica.
The paper said the pope had taken the decision on 17 December that he was going to resign – the day he received a dossier compiled by three cardinals delegated to look into the so-called "Vatileaks" affair.
Last May Pope Benedict's butler, Paolo Gabriele, was arrested and charged with having stolen and leaked papal correspondence that depicted the Vatican as a seething hotbed of intrigue and infighting.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/feb/21/pope-retired-amid-gay-bishop-blackmail-inquiry (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/feb/21/pope-retired-amid-gay-bishop-blackmail-inquiry)
Quote from: JustKari on February 11, 2013, 06:31:39 PM
Lent.
Okay, I'll shut up now.
Oh thats good...real good
:lol: