Most Republicans refuse to admit they are politically correct...yet they are....most do not really understand what political correctness is to begin with.
http://www.halfsigma.com/2012/11/republicans-are-liberals-on-race-and-immigration-issues.html (http://www.halfsigma.com/2012/11/republicans-are-liberals-on-race-and-immigration-issues.html)
Cultural Marxism aka.............Political Correctness
http://www.sullivan-county.com/wcva/index2.htm (http://www.sullivan-county.com/wcva/index2.htm)
Yes, Republicans in large are PC, but don't think for one moment that includes anyone here, we are Conservatives.
You do know the difference, right?
I think of myself as a Tea Party conservative, that happens to be registered as a republican, due to a lack of any other credible choice.
I think the volume of people that I piss off on a regular basis, would preclude me from the PC crowd.
Quote from: kramarat on December 30, 2012, 10:41:55 AM
I think of myself as a Tea Party conservative, that happens to be registered as a republican, due to a lack of any other credible choice.
I think the volume of people that I piss off on a regular basis, would preclude me from the PC crowd.
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Same here and Toy will vouch for that, it's why she doesn't take me out in public very often. :biggrin:
In my view we have to align with the GOP. Talk of a third party effort is the dems greatest wish. Divide and conquer.
Quote from: supsalemgr on December 30, 2012, 11:13:08 AM
In my view we have to align with the GOP. Talk of a third party effort is the dems greatest wish. Divide and conquer.
I can't see that happening. They centralized power during the convention. At this point, the Democrat party is the Communist/Socialist/Marxist party, and the Republican party is the new Democrat party.
Quote from: Solar on December 30, 2012, 10:31:19 AM
Yes, Republicans in large are PC, but don't think for one moment that includes anyone here, we are Conservatives.
You do know the difference, right?
Conservatism means different things to different people. Some think they are 'conservative' just because they are against raising taxes.
Quote from: SmilinJack on December 30, 2012, 01:52:15 PM
Conservatism means different things to different people. Some think they are 'conservative' just because they are against raising taxes.
True, my neighbor considers himself a moderate and hardcore fiscal conservative.
What it really means is, he is for welfare of all types, but wants limits placed on them.
But he still calls himself conservative, I call him an idiot lib.
Quote from: supsalemgr on December 30, 2012, 11:13:08 AM
In my view we have to align with the GOP. Talk of a third party effort is the dems greatest wish. Divide and conquer.
Well....first of all anyone interested in getting the democrats out of the White House should not be concerned with what the democrats want or do not want--and that applies also to the media...look how the republicans let the democrats lead them down the road to defeat.
What any party should be concerned about is the truth....now most understand how the media and the democrats deceieve the people.....but the Republicans do little better....because they refuse to tell the truth...if they know it.
I say all this just to say this....do not shy away from forming a third party just because you think they do not have a chance of winning(which is probably true unless they come up with a truly charasmatic leader) because I assure you unless there is a real revolultion within the republican party aka...getting rid of the moderate,pc, and liberals b.s. they will never win again.
Most likely they will become even more liberal...cuz dats whut da media wants...and these dunderheads listen to the media b.s. way tooooooo much.
Well..............they have a llittle time to figure it out but I doubt they will.
So bottome line if the Real Conservatives can come up with a third party candidate...everyone should support that candidate irregardless....you may not win...but at least it would give you someone to vote for.
Quote from: Solar on December 30, 2012, 01:57:14 PM
True, my neighbor considers himself a moderate and hardcore fiscal conservative.
What it really means is, he is for welfare of all types, but wants limits placed on them.
But he still calls himself conservative, I call him an idiot lib.
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
I'd say a lot of my thinking, (on the social side), is more libertarian. You leave me alone, and I'll leave you alone.
I don't think the government should be mandating coservative values any more than liberal values. Also, as small a government as what is necessary.
Quote from: supsalemgr on December 30, 2012, 02:05:40 PM
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Ya know the really sad part? He was appointed by then, Gov Reagan to be the lead judge for the California Lemon Law trial back in the 70s.
Even back then, Ca had nothing to choose from as far as conservative judges were concerned.
And today? They are extinct...
Quote from: Solar on December 30, 2012, 02:17:16 PM
Ya know the really sad part? He was appointed by then, Gov Reagan to be the lead judge for the California Lemon Law trial back in the 70s.
Even back then, Ca had nothing to choose from as far as conservative judges were concerned.
And today? They are extinct...
CA is broke. It will not be long beore they come begging to DC for a bailout. I hope the House GOP will show some resolve and let them go into a normal bankruptcy. Then reality will set in for the folks in the land of "fruits and nuts".
Quote from: supsalemgr on December 30, 2012, 03:12:05 PM
CA is broke. It will not be long beore they come begging to DC for a bailout. I hope the House GOP will show some resolve and let them go into a normal bankruptcy. Then reality will set in for the folks in the land of "fruits and nuts".
If I'm not mistaken, it might even be unconstitutional, in the least precedent setting and would prove damaging to the country.
That is, if the Fed bailed them out, but what could actually happen is, an appointed controller of funds and receipts, in other words, a judge would decide how much we cut state salaries, pension benefits etc.
The state would be forced to sell off non essentialist to pay creditors, forced to dissolve certain state entities like Cal-trans (transportation) and force it to run bare bones, kind of like it was when I grew up here, when we actually had the best roads in the country and police went after bad guys, not just write tickets for revenue.
Yep, I'm all in favor of insolvency/bankruptcy. :biggrin:
Quote from: supsalemgr on December 30, 2012, 11:13:08 AM
In my view we have to align with the GOP. Talk of a third party effort is the dems greatest wish. Divide and conquer.
They told us that in 2012... (and 2008, 2004, 2000, 1996... etc)
How's that working out? :rolleyes:
There is a saying that goes,
doing the same thing in the same way, but expecting different results in one definition of insanity! :blink:
If the Republican Party gets 50% of the vote, how do you expect to win when the Democrats get 50% and the establishment Republicans get 60% of their old 50% and the new 3rd Party (one of 20) gets 30%?
Some "conservatives" are their own worst enemies. They just don't know how to win! Listen to the "libertarian" who blow thru here with their wisdom! They can always score an easy 1% of the vote! THAT'S who you need to take advice from--the real losers!
Quote from: Darth Fife on December 30, 2012, 04:46:33 PM
They told us that in 2012... (and 2008, 2004, 2000, 1996... etc)
How's that working out? :rolleyes:
There is a saying that goes, doing the same thing in the same way, but expecting different results in one definition of insanity! :blink:
Yep, after Reagan it was an assembly line of RINO waiting their turn at POTUS.
Bush, Dole, Bush, McCain, Romney, is it any wonder were losing our country to big Govt RINO and socialists.
The GOP hasn't offered up one Conservative since Reagan, yet people wonder how we lost to a Marxist?
Quote from: Solar on December 30, 2012, 06:34:59 PM
Yep, after Reagan it was an assembly line of RINO waiting their turn at POTUS.
Bush, Dole, Bush, McCain, Romney, is it any wonder were losing our country to big Govt RINO and socialists.
The GOP hasn't offered up one Conservative since Reagan, yet people wonder how we lost to a Marxist?
Still a RINO is better than a Democrat and WAYYYYY better than a Marxist.
I got mad at Bush in 1992 over "no new taxes" and Voted for Ross Perot...that gave us Clinton....Dole was an idiot but not a socialist.
Billy
Quote from: BILLY Defiant on December 30, 2012, 06:58:17 PM
Still a RINO is better than a Democrat and WAYYYYY better than a Marxist.
I got mad at Bush in 1992 over "no new taxes" and Voted for Ross Perot...that gave us Clinton....Dole was an idiot but not a socialist.
Billy
Yep, but the biggest problem is the GOP kills off Conservatives, they simply don't want to lose that gravy train.
Quote from: BILLY Defiant on December 30, 2012, 06:58:17 PM
Still a RINO is better than a Democrat and WAYYYYY better than a Marxist.
I got mad at Bush in 1992 over "no new taxes" and Voted for Ross Perot...that gave us Clinton....Dole was an idiot but not a socialist.
Billy
Back in 1933, Germany used a similar line of reasoning when Hitler was made Chancellor -
"Well, at least he isn't a Communist!"We all know how that worked out, now don't we? :rolleyes: