We really need to check the news sources when we post articles.  I even saw Megyn Kelly report on a fake story the other day, so it's something that seems to be happening, and I don't want us to fall victim to that.

We should be a place where visitors can just trust what we post, so let's take an extra 3 seconds and make sure it's a legit story.

Quote from: taxed on November 19, 2016, 04:25:51 PM
We really need to check the news sources when we post articles.  I even saw Megyn Kelly report on a fake story the other day, so it's something that seems to be happening, and I don't want us to fall victim to that.

We should be a place where visitors can just trust what we post, so let's take an extra 3 seconds and make sure it's a legit story.

Good Advice.

But very hard to follow 100%.

Quote from: taxed on November 19, 2016, 04:25:51 PM
We really need to check the news sources when we post articles.  I even saw Megyn Kelly report on a fake story the other day, so it's something that seems to be happening, and I don't want us to fall victim to that.

We should be a place where visitors can just trust what we post, so let's take an extra 3 seconds and make sure it's a legit story.

Sometimes the real news is harder to believe than fake news.
For example, see:
http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/news-board/pokemon-go-and-the-cia/

Quote from: Rotwang on November 19, 2016, 06:35:33 PM
Good Advice.

But very hard to follow 100%.

We all slip up, but one way we can cut down is to actually read 100% of the articles we post and not get reeled in by the title.

Quote from: je_freedom on November 19, 2016, 07:05:33 PM
Sometimes the real news is harder to believe than fake news.
For example, see:
http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/news-board/pokemon-go-and-the-cia/

No je, that's not hard to believe.  Every app install lets you confirm the access it needs.  Jeesh.

Quote from: taxed on November 19, 2016, 07:07:21 PM
We all slip up, but one way we can cut down is to actually read 100% of the articles we post and not get reeled in by the title.

That's the thing. Every time I posted a screw up, was because I was tired of reading endless leftist hype, when suddenly something interesting pops out, you read the headline, skim the article, post it and head for the can because you've been holding it too long.
Had I looked closely, I'd have noticed it was a recycled story with a new date.
Yeah, click bait bull shit.

I guess the timing is just right. Red State has an article on how to spot a fake stories and sites.

Six Easy Ways To Identify A Fake News Site Or Story

1...It's a dot co

2...The headline is unbelievable

3...There are no links in the article

4...The surrounding headlines are satirical

5...Unrelenting click-trap advertising

6...You've never heard of the site before

They go into a lot more detail in the article.

READ MORE....

http://www.redstate.com/kiradavis/2016/11/18/6-tips-identifying-fake-news-site-story/

Quote from: Bronx on November 20, 2016, 12:32:23 PM
I guess the timing is just right. Red State has an article on how to spot a fake stories and sites.

Six Easy Ways To Identify A Fake News Site Or Story

1...It's a dot co

.Co was a new one for me, didn't see it till Mrclose pointed it out.

Quote2...The headline is unbelievable

How many times have we watched the left make ridiculous unconstitutional claims, only to have them get away with it?
Yeah, that's a tough call.

Quote3...There are no links in the article

Not true on this one, they will give links, but the links are either lies unto themselves or links to other .Co phony sites.

Quote4...The surrounding headlines are satirical

5...Unrelenting click-trap advertising

6...You've never heard of the site before

Almost sounded like the Youngcons site for a moment.


Good find Bronx.

Quote from: Solar on November 20, 2016, 01:11:33 PM
.Co was a new one for me, didn't see it till Mrclose pointed it out.
How many times have we watched the left make ridiculous unconstitutional claims, only to have them get away with it?
Yeah, that's a tough call.
Not true on this one, they will give links, but the links are either lies unto themselves or links to other .Co phony sites.

Almost sounded like the Youngcons site for a moment.


Good find Bronx.

Hell I fall victim to these sometimes. I almost fell for this one....

After Election, the Woman Investigating Clinton Foundation Crimes, FOUND DEAD!

Read more: http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/election-woman-investigating-clinton-foundation-crimes-found-dead/#ixzz4QbsUMJ00

My rule of thumb is to look and see who else is covering the story. No one? Then Hold off. Just blogs? hold off. Just forums? Hold off.

The best advice is do not depend on Facebook or other social media as news sources.

Quote from: Bronx on November 20, 2016, 07:22:21 PM
Hell I fall victim to these sometimes. I almost fell for this one....

After Election, the Woman Investigating Clinton Foundation Crimes, FOUND DEAD!

Read more: http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/election-woman-investigating-clinton-foundation-crimes-found-dead/#ixzz4QbsUMJ00

Hmmm, it would appear that the only issue is people on Facbook making the claim Clinton played a part in her death.
But in fact she is dead and she was investigating Clinton in re: to child trafficking.

https://www.facebook.com/CenterOnHumanRightsEducation/posts/817574095050912

Some of this stuff is just advertising, trying to get folks worked up and spend money on an imaginary disaster, medical scare, food shortage, riot, the list is endless.  Even the phone calls, "This Credit Card Services calling....blah, blah" - sounds similar to Card Holder Services, or the "Vehicle Service Warrenty Extension" folks.  If they can't get your attention, you're not gonna bite.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-18/meet-leftist-professor-who-wrote-hit-list-fake-news-sites

QuoteThe mainstream media are going wild circulating a viral list of so-called "fake news" websites – and the list includes established news sites like WND, Zero Hedge, Breitbart, Red State, the Daily Wire and Project Veritas – but WND has found a leftist, Trump-bashing assistant professor in Massachusetts who specialized in "fat studies" is behind the effort to target and discredit legitimate news organizations.

Meet Merrimack College Assistant Professor Melissa Zimdars, a 30-something self-identified feminist and activist who has expressed great dislike for President-elect Donald Trump and Vice President-elect Mike Pence.

..............

QuoteShe's only actually held her teaching position at the private college in North Andover, Mass., for 15 months.

Zimdars published and circulated a list of "fake, false, or regularly misleading websites that are shared on Facebook and social media." She said she began writing the list because she didn't approve of the sources her students were citing.

The problem?

In addition to some satirical and bogus sites, her list attacks the credibility of well-established news organizations such as Breitbart, BizPac Review, Red State, the Blaze, the Independent Journal Review, Twitchy, the Daily Wire, WND and James O'Keefe's Project Veritas. In many cases (such as with her WND listing), she offers no explanation for why the news organizations were included on the list.

Mainstream media outlets such as the Los Angeles Times circulated Zimdars' growing list. The Times headlined its story, "Want to keep fake news out of your newsfeed? College professor creates list of sites to avoid." The Times offered no details concerning Zimdars' qualifications or background. News organizations such as CNN, the Washington Post, Boston Globe, New York Magazine, USA Today, Business Insider, the Austin American-Statesman, the Dallas Morning News and others spread the list like gospel and cited it in their reports.

...............

Why bother mentioning this kind of crap?   

Trust Me, I'm Lying: Confessions of a Media Manipulator by Ryan Holiday  2013

QuoteYou've seen it all before. A malicious online rumor costs a company millions. A political sideshow derails the national news cycle and destroys a candidate. Some product or celebrity zooms from total obscurity to viral sensation. What you don't know is that someone is responsible for all this. Usually, someone like me.

I'm a media manipulator. In a world where blogs control and distort the news, my job is to control blogs-as much as any one person can.

Not the easiest read, he rambles, but an eye-opener.   It would appear some folks have started a media war of the same nature.
When we read it - What-The-Hell!!!  Is everyone so sensational starved they just eat up this crap!?  The author gives enough detail, anyone having read the book is ready to start their own internet rumors, stoke them into the limelight and watch the MSM pick them up as gospel truth.   If you didn't trust the print media, after reading this, you'll trust the Internet media even less.

For some people, it's a game, fooling people.  Some TV personalities like making fools out of people with the man-on-the-street or campus interviews, stuff.   Other people are getting PAID to plant this "fake news" stuff.   Damaging credibility is what it's all about.

When these folks answer to the Lord, "I love playing the devil's-advocate!"  ... er, how's that gonna play?

Quote from: The Boo Man... on November 20, 2016, 10:44:28 PM
My rule of thumb is to look and see who else is covering the story. No one? Then Hold off. Just blogs? hold off. Just forums? Hold off.

The problrm is: modern journalist are lazy. Rather then pounding shoe leather to get a story, they go to blogs and write stories about what blogs claim.

Quote from: Ghoulardi on November 21, 2016, 07:52:20 AM
The problrm is: modern journalist are lazy. Rather then pounding shoe leather to get a story, they go to blogs and write stories about what blogs claim.

A few years ago, a dozen or more, I was sitting the Martinsville Speedway press box, while the NASCAR race was getting ready to run.
Next to me was a reporter, with an article near complete, written about a driver, titled something like, "Troubles continue for X-driver at Martinsville Speedway".  The race had not even started, the "blanks" in the article would be filled in with laps, times, whatever.

I don't know who the reporter was, what rag he was writing for.   The whole group of reporters would be yucking it up, until the announcer said something like "crash" or someone who was paying attention would holler and get everyone's attention.