We really need to check the news sources when we post articles. I even saw Megyn Kelly report on a fake story the other day, so it's something that seems to be happening, and I don't want us to fall victim to that.
We should be a place where visitors can just trust what we post, so let's take an extra 3 seconds and make sure it's a legit story.
Quote from: taxed on November 19, 2016, 04:25:51 PM
We really need to check the news sources when we post articles. I even saw Megyn Kelly report on a fake story the other day, so it's something that seems to be happening, and I don't want us to fall victim to that.
We should be a place where visitors can just trust what we post, so let's take an extra 3 seconds and make sure it's a legit story.
Good Advice.
But very hard to follow 100%.
Quote from: taxed on November 19, 2016, 04:25:51 PM
We really need to check the news sources when we post articles. I even saw Megyn Kelly report on a fake story the other day, so it's something that seems to be happening, and I don't want us to fall victim to that.
We should be a place where visitors can just trust what we post, so let's take an extra 3 seconds and make sure it's a legit story.
Sometimes the real news is harder to believe than fake news.
For example, see:
http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/news-board/pokemon-go-and-the-cia/
Quote from: Rotwang on November 19, 2016, 06:35:33 PM
Good Advice.
But very hard to follow 100%.
We all slip up, but one way we can cut down is to actually read 100% of the articles we post and not get reeled in by the title.
Quote from: je_freedom on November 19, 2016, 07:05:33 PM
Sometimes the real news is harder to believe than fake news.
For example, see:
http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/news-board/pokemon-go-and-the-cia/
No je, that's not hard to believe. Every app install lets you confirm the access it needs. Jeesh.
Quote from: taxed on November 19, 2016, 07:07:21 PM
We all slip up, but one way we can cut down is to actually read 100% of the articles we post and not get reeled in by the title.
That's the thing. Every time I posted a screw up, was because I was tired of reading endless leftist hype, when suddenly something interesting pops out, you read the headline, skim the article, post it and head for the can because you've been holding it too long.
Had I looked closely, I'd have noticed it was a recycled story with a new date.
Yeah, click bait bull shit.
I guess the timing is just right. Red State has an article on how to spot a fake stories and sites.
Six Easy Ways To Identify A Fake News Site Or Story
1...It's a dot co
2...The headline is unbelievable
3...There are no links in the article
4...The surrounding headlines are satirical
5...Unrelenting click-trap advertising
6...You've never heard of the site before
They go into a lot more detail in the article.
READ MORE....
http://www.redstate.com/kiradavis/2016/11/18/6-tips-identifying-fake-news-site-story/
Quote from: Bronx on November 20, 2016, 12:32:23 PM
I guess the timing is just right. Red State has an article on how to spot a fake stories and sites.
Six Easy Ways To Identify A Fake News Site Or Story
1...It's a dot co
.Co was a new one for me, didn't see it till Mrclose pointed it out.
Quote2...The headline is unbelievable
How many times have we watched the left make ridiculous unconstitutional claims, only to have them get away with it?
Yeah, that's a tough call.
Quote3...There are no links in the article
Not true on this one, they will give links, but the links are either lies unto themselves or links to other .Co phony sites.
Quote4...The surrounding headlines are satirical
5...Unrelenting click-trap advertising
6...You've never heard of the site before
Almost sounded like the Youngcons site for a moment. :biggrin:
Good find Bronx.
Quote from: Solar on November 20, 2016, 01:11:33 PM
.Co was a new one for me, didn't see it till Mrclose pointed it out.
How many times have we watched the left make ridiculous unconstitutional claims, only to have them get away with it?
Yeah, that's a tough call.
Not true on this one, they will give links, but the links are either lies unto themselves or links to other .Co phony sites.
Almost sounded like the Youngcons site for a moment. :biggrin:
Good find Bronx.
Hell I fall victim to these sometimes. I almost fell for this one....
After Election, the Woman Investigating Clinton Foundation Crimes, FOUND DEAD!
Read more: http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/election-woman-investigating-clinton-foundation-crimes-found-dead/#ixzz4QbsUMJ00
My rule of thumb is to look and see who else is covering the story. No one? Then Hold off. Just blogs? hold off. Just forums? Hold off.
The best advice is do not depend on Facebook or other social media as news sources.
Quote from: Bronx on November 20, 2016, 07:22:21 PM
Hell I fall victim to these sometimes. I almost fell for this one....
After Election, the Woman Investigating Clinton Foundation Crimes, FOUND DEAD!
Read more: http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/election-woman-investigating-clinton-foundation-crimes-found-dead/#ixzz4QbsUMJ00
Hmmm, it would appear that the only issue is people on Facbook making the claim Clinton played a part in her death.
But in fact she is dead and she was investigating Clinton in re: to child trafficking.
https://www.facebook.com/CenterOnHumanRightsEducation/posts/817574095050912
Some of this stuff is just advertising, trying to get folks worked up and spend money on an imaginary disaster, medical scare, food shortage, riot, the list is endless. Even the phone calls, "This Credit Card Services calling....blah, blah" - sounds similar to Card Holder Services, or the "Vehicle Service Warrenty Extension" folks. If they can't get your attention, you're not gonna bite.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-18/meet-leftist-professor-who-wrote-hit-list-fake-news-sites
QuoteThe mainstream media are going wild circulating a viral list of so-called "fake news" websites – and the list includes established news sites like WND, Zero Hedge, Breitbart, Red State, the Daily Wire and Project Veritas – but WND has found a leftist, Trump-bashing assistant professor in Massachusetts who specialized in "fat studies" is behind the effort to target and discredit legitimate news organizations.
Meet Merrimack College Assistant Professor Melissa Zimdars, a 30-something self-identified feminist and activist who has expressed great dislike for President-elect Donald Trump and Vice President-elect Mike Pence.
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QuoteShe's only actually held her teaching position at the private college in North Andover, Mass., for 15 months.
Zimdars published and circulated a list of "fake, false, or regularly misleading websites that are shared on Facebook and social media." She said she began writing the list because she didn't approve of the sources her students were citing.
The problem?
In addition to some satirical and bogus sites, her list attacks the credibility of well-established news organizations such as Breitbart, BizPac Review, Red State, the Blaze, the Independent Journal Review, Twitchy, the Daily Wire, WND and James O'Keefe's Project Veritas. In many cases (such as with her WND listing), she offers no explanation for why the news organizations were included on the list.
Mainstream media outlets such as the Los Angeles Times circulated Zimdars' growing list. The Times headlined its story, "Want to keep fake news out of your newsfeed? College professor creates list of sites to avoid." The Times offered no details concerning Zimdars' qualifications or background. News organizations such as CNN, the Washington Post, Boston Globe, New York Magazine, USA Today, Business Insider, the Austin American-Statesman, the Dallas Morning News and others spread the list like gospel and cited it in their reports.
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Why bother mentioning this kind of crap?
Trust Me, I'm Lying: Confessions of a Media Manipulator by Ryan Holiday 2013QuoteYou've seen it all before. A malicious online rumor costs a company millions. A political sideshow derails the national news cycle and destroys a candidate. Some product or celebrity zooms from total obscurity to viral sensation. What you don't know is that someone is responsible for all this. Usually, someone like me.
I'm a media manipulator. In a world where blogs control and distort the news, my job is to control blogs-as much as any one person can.
Not the easiest read, he rambles, but an eye-opener. It would appear some folks have started a media war of the same nature.
When we read it - What-The-Hell!!! Is everyone so sensational starved they just eat up this crap!? The author gives enough detail, anyone having read the book is ready to start their own internet rumors, stoke them into the limelight and watch the MSM pick them up as gospel truth. If you didn't trust the print media, after reading this, you'll trust the Internet media even less.
For some people, it's a game, fooling people. Some TV personalities like making fools out of people with the man-on-the-street or campus interviews, stuff. Other people are getting PAID to plant this "fake news" stuff. Damaging credibility is what it's all about.
When these folks answer to the Lord, "I love playing the devil's-advocate!" ... er, how's that gonna play?
Quote from: The Boo Man... on November 20, 2016, 10:44:28 PM
My rule of thumb is to look and see who else is covering the story. No one? Then Hold off. Just blogs? hold off. Just forums? Hold off.
The problrm is: modern journalist are lazy. Rather then pounding shoe leather to get a story, they go to blogs and write stories about what blogs claim.
Quote from: Ghoulardi on November 21, 2016, 07:52:20 AM
The problrm is: modern journalist are lazy. Rather then pounding shoe leather to get a story, they go to blogs and write stories about what blogs claim.
A few years ago, a dozen or more, I was sitting the Martinsville Speedway press box, while the NASCAR race was getting ready to run.
Next to me was a reporter, with an article near complete, written about a driver, titled something like, "Troubles continue for X-driver at Martinsville Speedway".
The race had not even started, the "blanks" in the article would be filled in with laps, times, whatever.
I don't know who the reporter was, what rag he was writing for. The whole group of reporters would be yucking it up, until the announcer said something like "crash" or someone who was paying attention would holler and get everyone's attention.
Quote from: The Boo Man... on November 20, 2016, 10:44:28 PM
My rule of thumb is to look and see who else is covering the story. No one? Then Hold off. Just blogs? hold off. Just forums? Hold off.
It would not be good to limit ourselves to the
Establishment, ruling clique owned propaganda empire.
Sites like WND, NewsMax, Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, etc.
are very reliable.
Sites like American Thinker and Strike The Root
are also very reliable.
Also sites like The Religion of Peace and Numbers USA.
Let's not fall into the trap of the bureaucratic mindset,
thinking that some simplistic rule can ever
take the place of sound judgment.
Anything from RT or Russia Today ought to be automatically banned. I just followed a link from a site, saying, "Fukushima reactor cooling system stops following quake & tsunami"... only to realize it was another RT article, presenting western governments in a poor light.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT_(TV_network)
QuoteRT has frequently been called a propaganda outlet for the Russian government and its foreign policy by news reporters, including former RT reporters. RT has also been accused of spreading disinformation. The United Kingdom media regulator, Ofcom, has repeatedly found RT to have breached rules on impartiality, and of broadcasting "materially misleading" content. RT states that it merely offers a Russian perspective on global events.
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QuoteIn early 2010, RT unveiled a highly controversial advertising campaign called "Question More," which was created for the channel by Britain-based McCann Erickson. One of the advertisements featured as part of the campaign showed President of the United States Barack Obama "morphing" into Iranian leader Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and asked: "Who poses the greatest nuclear threat?" The ad was banned in American airports. Another showed a Western soldier "merging" into a Taliban fighter and asks: "Is terror only inflicted by terrorists?"
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QuoteIn 2011, RT was the second most-watched foreign news channel in the United States (after BBC World News), and the number one foreign network in five major U.S. urban areas in 2012. It also rates well among younger Americans under 35 and among inner city areas.
...... This anti-trump protest brought to you by RT, who asks the question, wouldn't Bernie or Hillary have been a better choice?
QuoteRT anchors and correspondents tend to concentrate on controversial world issues such as the financial and banking scandals, corporate impact on the global economy, and western demonstrations. It has also aired views by various conspiracy theorists, including neo-Nazis, White Supremacists, and Holocaust deniers (presented as "human rights activists"). News from Russia is of secondary importance and such reports emphasize Russian modernisation and economic achievements, as well as Russian culture and natural landscapes, while downplaying Russia's social problems or corruption.
Don't even click on RT stuff, they hate the free world, and are purposely sowing seeds of discontent with anything non-communist.
Quote from: Hoofer on November 21, 2016, 05:36:10 PMDon't even click on RT stuff, they hate the free world, and are purposely sowing seeds of discontent with anything non-communist.
And that differs from CNN or MSNBC how?
Quote from: zewazir on November 21, 2016, 07:22:40 PM
And that differs from CNN or MSNBC how?
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Good point.
Try this link (via Drudge)....
https://www.rt.com/news/367714-fukushima-reactor-cooling-earthquake/
Or here....
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2016/11/22/national/m7-4-earthquake-off-fukushima-triggers-widespread-tsunami-alert/
Quote from: quiller on November 22, 2016, 01:49:04 AM
Try this link (via Drudge)....
https://www.rt.com/news/367714-fukushima-reactor-cooling-earthquake/
Or here....
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2016/11/22/national/m7-4-earthquake-off-fukushima-triggers-widespread-tsunami-alert/
Fukushima: tsunami waves hit after 7.4 magnitude earthquake hits Japan
Thing is, the waves turned out to be ripples and no one was hurt during the quake either.
Nasty quake, but the news hyped the story about Fukishima.
Video at link. It even appears no boats left port either.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/nov/21/japan-earthquake-tsunami-warning
Quote from: quiller on November 22, 2016, 01:49:04 AM
Try this link (via Drudge)....
https://www.rt.com/news/367714-fukushima-reactor-cooling-earthquake/
Or here....
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2016/11/22/national/m7-4-earthquake-off-fukushima-triggers-widespread-tsunami-alert/
Followed both of them, another reason why I say, if you know it's from Russia Today - skip it. Make your own comparison if you wish, one article... which has changes since yesterday, and focuses on the Nuclear Reactor in Fukushima... leaving you wondering, "What the hell is going on over there!?!?!" and the other article on the Tsunami.
IMO, a first read shows RT continues to cast democracies as disaster ridden, out-of-control, be afraid-very afraid, questionable actions & responses - gee, would you want to LIVE there?
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/putin-moves-his-missiles-in-new-threat-to-europe-fbqpr9m9g
QuoteRussia is deploying short-range ballistic missiles to its western European enclave, it emerged yesterday as President Putin threatened "counter-measures" against Nato expansion.
A senior Russian MP said that Moscow would permanently station the nuclear-capable missiles in Kaliningrad, a region between the Nato states of Poland and Lithuania, in retaliation for a military build-up by the alliance in eastern Europe.
Putin is flexing muscle, threatening, possibly getting ready to intimidate, destabilize or invade Poland.
Do a search on RT.com for "ballistic missiles" or "NATO" - yields A LOT of -crap- look at the titles.
'WTF White Helmets': Bizarre 'mannequin challenge' in Syrian warzone (VIDEO)'
'Russia deploys newest anti-ship missiles to Kuril Islands'
'Witch hunt': Report urges UK to 'map,' 'challenge,' and expose public figures with Russia links'
'Russia is not our enemy' – NATO Navy Commander'
'Give Trump chance to develop positive objectives, says Kissinger'
'Royal Navy has 'woefully low' total of ships, MoD made 'extraordinary mistakes' – MPs'
'Fake news' & 'post-truth' politics? What about those Iraqi WMDs?'
'British Navy ship fires 'warning' flares at unarmed Spanish vessel in standoff near Gibraltar'
'Erdogan warns NATO against asylum to 'terrorist soldiers' after Turkish officers file requests'
'Monkey snatching schoolgirl's headscarf sparks clashes in Libya, leaving 16 dead – report'
Russia Today (RT) does not qualify as a news site - at best, it's an Russian Blog.
The RT.COM motto is "Question More" (splashed on the top of the page)Several other searches, and finally, when I searched "Poland" I got the Russian perspective - nestled between... Russian Propaganda, of course. look at these titles, and ask yourself if RT isn't following an agenda.
'Russia is not our enemy' – NATO Navy Commander'
'Russia to deploy Iskander rockets in Kaliningrad exclave over US cruise missile threat' - (the article hit)
'Ukraine marks 'Dignity & Freedom Day' as Euromaidan dream falters'
'4,000 NATO troops take part in Lithuania's largest exercise near Russia's border'
'Building demolition op turns into cinematic 'action movie scene' filmed by drone'
'US & Ukraine vote against anti-Nazi glorification resolution'
'NATO or not NATO - the question for Donald Trump'
'Pure fiction': Czech PM slams idea of hosting US ABM radar'
'NATO should demilitarize border with Russia, or face new Cold War – Corbyn'
'Polish self-defense classes for women touted as deterrence from Russian aggression by MSM'
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A little further digging, compare these two articles, and tell us RT isn't directed by the Kremlin.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3924754/Poland-s-army-offers-free-self-defence-lessons-WOMEN-country-ramps-military-threat-Russian-invasion.html
QuotePolish army instructors will provide the training in techniques including defensive postures, how to break holds, strangulation, assaults with a weapon and guards against kicks.
Polish Defence Minister Antoni Macierewicz said the classes aim to teach women 'basic fighting techniques and, above all, improve overall physical fitness', adding 'We invite the ladies, there are still places - there are no age limits.'
The classes are being run as Poland ramps up its military amid fears of an invasion from Russia.
Polish Defence Minister Antoni Macierewicz said the classes aim to teach women 'basic fighting techniques and, above all, improve overall physical fitness'
The defence ministry is also setting up a 35,000-strong paramilitary Territorial Defence Force, as a defence against Russian aggression and a mode of promoting patriotism among citizens.
Poland and its Nato neighbours in the Baltic region have expressed concerns about Russia's aggressive military tactics, particularly in relation to the Ukraine conflict.
Nato said that Russian fighter jets are constantly testing defences over the Baltic states, with more than 600 'interceptions' so far this year.
Neighbouring countries have said they have concerns Russia could attempt to invade, and fear a military conflict, such as in the March 2014 annexation of Crimea.
https://www.rt.com/news/366546-poland-women-unarmed-combat/
QuoteSome commenters in Poland suggested that the courses are a publicity stunt on the part of the military, or simply a recruiting method. Similar courses are taught by the police, according to the Rzeczpospolita newspaper.
The conservative Polish government, and Defense Minister Antoni Macierewicz in particular, have not hesitated to accuse Russia of being aggressive and a threat to their country, which is currently overhauling its defense industry and the military in order to meet NATO standards.
The last thing Putin and Russia want - an educated, armed and well trained populace in Poland.
Russia Today - RT.com is not a news source, it's a Kremlin funded, propaganda arm of Putin.