This is bad!  Looks like they're gonna do this by the end of the month. Boehner promised he would, and he seems determined to follow thru.

Make it your life's mission to throw some of these clowns out -- including Paul Ryan. They're just not gonna listen to the People! 

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/10/03/back-room-deals-in-congress-may-give-obama-immigration-reform-without-border-security-measures/

Now, if I were the suspicious type I would say that maybe, just maybe, Boehner, Reid, Ryan and Obama cooked up this whole Close down the Government fiasco, to provide cover for them to approve Amnesty.

I must be getting cynical in my old age!

-Darth

Ryan, Rubio, Boehner are rat  vomit. Sorry if any rats are offended. If Boner rams amnesty down our throats he and the rep party can rot  in hell.

Is it really a surprise?  Everyone of them a RINO.  I'm not sure who turned out to be the bigger disappoitment, Rubio or Ryan? 

Quote from: Frandia on October 04, 2013, 04:47:27 AM
Is it really a surprise?  Everyone of them a RINO.  I'm not sure who turned out to be the bigger disappoitment, Rubio or Ryan?

How can you be a Republican In Name Only if ALL Republicans are rinos?

"You don't know why you're talking about. I do."   

Quote from: Yawn on October 04, 2013, 04:57:56 AM
How can you be a Republican In Name Only if ALL Republicans are rinos?

"You don't know why you're talking about. I do."   

Further proof that even Ryan was hand picked as a trojan horse, by MSM, dems, and RINO's  ??

It's amazing, as he was touted as a staunch conservative rising star for a brief period.

Looking at Rubio and Christie, it makes me wonder if there's a covert little program that's manufacturing actual fake conservatives.

You know they steered Dole, McCain, and Romney right into the elections as chum for their progressive candidate.

We've got to either shut this down, or have a credible alternate path to a candidate.

Quote from: AndyJackson on October 04, 2013, 05:38:53 AM
Further proof that even Ryan was hand picked as a trojan horse, by MSM, dems, and RINO's  ??

It's amazing, as he was touted as a staunch conservative rising star for a brief period.

Looking at Rubio and Christie, it makes me wonder if there's a covert little program that's manufacturing actual fake conservatives.

You know they steered Dole, McCain, and Romney right into the elections as chum for their progressive candidate.

We've got to either shut this down, or have a credible alternate path to a candidate.

There is certainly precedent for it.

Back in the 60s/70s Democrats found they couldn't get elected here in Utah. So, on the local level, the dropped the "D" and put an "R" behind their names. They put up a front of being "Conservative" etc, etc, during elections, but once in office they went about legislating and governing as Democrats.

That's one reason why 70 - 80 percent of Utahns end up paying state taxes in the highest tax bracket.

-Darth

Quote from: AndyJackson on October 04, 2013, 05:38:53 AM
Looking at Rubio and Christie, it makes me wonder if there's a covert little program that's manufacturing actual fake conservatives.

What's wrong with fake conservatives?  These days, pathological narcissism is more of a requirement for politics than it is for most other aspects of show business.  Normal people need not apply for the job.

Maybe Ronald Reagan was just really good at ACTING conservative.  I'd settle for a politician who could to that convincingly.  But even that may be too much to hope for now.

Rand  Paul IS a conservative.

Quote from: dashvinny on October 04, 2013, 06:13:13 AM
Rand  Paul IS a conservative.

Rand Paul makes the most sense on a variety of issues.  Unfortunately he is functioning under the shadow of his father's reputation and positions. 

Quote from: dashvinny on October 04, 2013, 06:13:13 AM
Rand  Paul IS a conservative.

Rand Paul supports amnesty. You don't understand that?

Quote from: Frandia on October 04, 2013, 06:20:27 AM

Rand Paul makes the most sense on a variety of issues.  Unfortunately he is functioning under the shadow of his father's reputation and positions.

And, your problem with that is? 

-Darth

Quote from: Darth Fife on October 04, 2013, 06:25:45 AM
And, your problem with that is? 

-Darth

It isn't a problem for me personally but it is a problem for many others whose support he needs. I should have qualified that last part.

Quote from: Yawn on October 04, 2013, 06:24:33 AM
Rand Paul supports amnesty. You don't understand that?

WHAT? I know there is a typo in there somewhere.