Quote from: Crock Hunter on March 02, 2013, 02:17:58 PM
First .. thanks for taking our discussion seriously.. I don't seem to be getting that courtesy from everyone..

No problem.  You seem like a good poster so far.

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I find fault with all religions.. some worse than others... I don't not as you say.. put Christianity and Islam on the same pedestal..  and in some Islamic societies there are these atrocities that you mention.. But not in all...   When you paint all Muslims with such a broad brush as you do you are making the same mistake as do the radicals.... . .

As for Christianity being so much better for the world... yes.. in the same way as having a cold is better than having pneumonia..

Help me understand what atrocities Christians commit, or how are they bad for the world.

The link you posted about the %79, actually proves our point a bit.  This last Election cycle, the Democrats attempted to remove God from their platform.  At the DNC, they took a vote to put the mention of God back in, it was obvious from the croud that it did not pass, yet the chair called it passed.  Obviously the democrats are part of this alleged 79%, and even if they believe, they don't want God and politics to mix.

I don't want to live in a theocracy either.  We were given free will to choose to believe or not.  I will always hold that there is only one truth, but YOU should ALWAYS have the free will to choose to believe it or not.

Quote from: JustKari on March 02, 2013, 02:44:09 PM
The link you posted about the %79, actually proves our point a bit.  This last Election cycle, the Democrats attempted to remove God from their platform.  At the DNC, they took a vote to put the mention of God back in, it was obvious from the croud that it did not pass, yet the chair called it passed.  Obviously the democrats are part of this alleged 79%, and even if they believe, they don't want God and politics to mix.

I don't want to live in a theocracy either.  We were given free will to choose to believe or not.  I will always hold that there is only one truth, but YOU should ALWAYS have the free will to choose to believe it or not.

Well said Kari, and I agree, we are a Free society based on a law that prohibits a Theocracy (First Amendment), which makes the argument that we live under the threat that Christianity could take over the Govt. is ludicrous.

But with the way the left wants to claim the Constitution and Bill of Rights is somehow a living document to be changed at the whim of a nonexistent Democracy, does give credence of a threat of Sharia, especially the way they are welcoming them into the party.

Quote from: Crock Hunter on March 01, 2013, 01:35:35 PM
Thankfully.. that is until the far-right succeeds in turning the U.S. into a theocracy...

Quote from: Crock Hunter on March 02, 2013, 11:57:23 AM
"I want you to just let a wave of intolerance wash over you. I want you to let a wave of hatred wash over you. Yes, hate is good... Our goal is a Christian nation. We have a biblical duty, we are called on by God to conquer this country. We don't want equal time. We don't want pluralism." Randall Terry, founder of Operation Rescue, in The News-Sentinel, Fort Wayne, Indiana 8/16/93

From your link, Randall Terry ran as a Democrat for POTUS.
Damn those Rightwingnuts, they have even infected the Dim party!

   

QuoteCatholic Online (www.catholic.org)

The campaign of Pro-life activist Randall Terry, who is running for the Democratic Party's nomination for President, has successfully launched graphic television ads in five Midwestern states to put the spotlight on the horrors of abortion.
http://www.catholic.org/national/national_story.php?id=44029

Quote from: Solar on March 02, 2013, 03:15:33 PM
From your link, Randall Terry ran as a Democrat for POTUS.
Damn those Rightwingnuts, they have even infected the Dim party!

   

He even got a couple delegates!

Quote from: taxed on March 02, 2013, 03:17:17 PM
He even got a couple delegates!

For the record, I like Crock, he may be young, but he's at least thinking, he's just been exposed to too many leftist talking points.
I do believe he will wind up being a Libertarian and eventually a Conservative.

It's for this reason I've been giving him a hard time, I want to challenge his ideas in hopes he comes to some enlightening moments on his own.

Quote from: Solar on March 02, 2013, 03:22:12 PM
For the record, I like Crock, he may be young, but he's at least thinking, he's just been exposed to too many leftist talking points.
I do believe he will wind up being a Libertarian and eventually a Conservative.

It's for this reason I've been giving him a hard time, I want to challenge his ideas in hopes he comes to some enlightening moments on his own.

Yeah, I like him...

Quote from: Crock Hunter on March 02, 2013, 12:06:43 PM
As with all my posts.. I simply use facts gleaned from the real world.. ..

And do not address questions posed.

Is crock hunter one of the locusts from that other site ?

It's like the Mariel boatlift....a bunch of criminals and lunatics coming ashore  !!

Quote from: AndyJackson on March 02, 2013, 04:54:54 PM
Is crock hunter one of the locusts from that other site ?

It's like the Mariel boatlift....a bunch of criminals and lunatics coming ashore  !!

Yup! (to both BTW)

Quote from: Crock Hunter on March 02, 2013, 02:08:38 PM
I wouldn't call freighted, misinformed Senior Citizens boogeymen...

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About what?

I'll be happy to point those out as we go along.

Quote from: JustKari on March 02, 2013, 02:44:09 PM
Obviously the democrats are part of this alleged 79%, and even if they believe, they don't want God  and politics to mix.

Nor did our Founders. .. . It is one thing to have our Constitution rooted in moral (Christian) values ..quite another for the church to have an active role in governing..

It was the Church of England's active role in government that
prompted the framers of our Constitution to take extra precautions
to minimize the church's influence over our governing bodies..

Quote from: JustKari on March 02, 2013, 02:44:09 PM
I don't want to live in a theocracy either.  We were given free will to choose to believe or not.  I will always hold that there is only one truth, but YOU should ALWAYS have the free will to choose to believe it or not.

Unless you're a Muslim living in America.. 

Quote from: taxed on March 02, 2013, 02:22:33 PM
No problem.  You seem like a good poster so far.
Help me understand what atrocities Christians commit, or how are they bad for the world.

Fewer today than in their bloody history. .. 

It was conversion at the point of a sword that swept Romanized Christianity across Europe.. I hear very similar sentiments in today's far-right rhetoric. 

Quote from: Solar on March 02, 2013, 03:15:33 PM
From your link, Randall Terry ran as a Democrat for POTUS.   

What does that have to do with religious zealots wishing to turn the U.S. into a theocracy?

Quote from: Solar on March 02, 2013, 03:22:12 PM
I do believe he will wind up being a Libertarian and eventually a Conservative.

There's no reason to be so insulting.. . ..
But if we were to be truthful with ourselves.. something that right-wingers struggle to do... we are all liberal in some regards and conservative in others..

Quote from: Solar on March 02, 2013, 03:22:12 PM
I want to challenge his ideas in hopes he comes to some enlightening moments on his own.

Feel free to try.. On nearing retirement, I've had a lifetime of "enlightening moments" thanks to the simple fact that I do not reject reality..   Seems that that is a prerequisite for being Conservative.. ..