Quote from: Crock Hunter on March 02, 2013, 12:06:43 PM
As with all my posts.. I simply use facts gleaned from the real world.. ..

He is no more a representative of Christians than that of the Westboro Church.
I'm no Christian, but those that I do know think these people are freakin nuts.

Quote from: Crock Hunter on March 02, 2013, 12:06:43 PM
As with all my posts.. I simply use facts gleaned from the real world.. ..

You wouldn't be one of those liberals who think that 4 or 5 silly Christian zealots means a threat of theocracy.......while you dismiss thousands of jihad speeches and thousand of jihad deaths as "just a couple fringe guys".....would you  ?

lol, a Christian theocracy is looming right around the corner.....but you're a racist if you worry about the muslim violence.  Yes, If you happen to be 5.

Quote from: Crock Hunter on March 02, 2013, 11:57:23 AM
..  at your fingertips.. .. .. .

"The initial goal was to move thousands of Christian constitutionalists to South Carolina to accelerate the return to self-government based upon Christian principles at the local and State level. " - Christian Exodus..

"I want you to just let a wave of intolerance wash over you. I want you to let a wave of hatred wash over you. Yes, hate is good... Our goal is a Christian nation. We have a biblical duty, we are called on by God to conquer this country. We don't want equal time. We don't want pluralism." Randall Terry, founder of Operation Rescue, in The News-Sentinel, Fort Wayne, Indiana 8/16/93

"So let us be blunt about it: We must use the doctrine of religious liberty to gain independence for Christian schools until we train up a generation of people who know that there is no religious neutrality, no neutral law, no neutral education, and no neutral civil government. Then they will be get busy in constructing a Bible-based social, political and religious order which finally denies the religious liberty of the enemies of God."
–Gary North, quoted in Albert J. Menendez, Visions of Reality: What Fundamentalist Schools Teach, Prometheus Books, 1993

"Christians have an obligation, a mandate, a commission, a holy responsibility to reclaim the land for Jesus Christ -- to have dominion in civil structures, just as in every other aspect of life and godliness. But it is dominion we are after. Not just a voice. It is dominion we are after. Not just influence. It is dominion we are after. Not just equal time. It is dominion we are after. World conquest. That's what Christ has commissioned us to accomplish. We must win the world with the power of the Gospel. And we must never settle for anything less... Thus, Christian politics has as its primary intent the conquest of the land -- of men, families, institutions, bureaucracies, courts, and governments for the Kingdom of Christ." From The Changing of the Guard: Biblical Principles for Political Action by George Grant, published in 1987 by Dominion Press

What does this have to do with "the right"?

Quote from: Crock Hunter on March 02, 2013, 11:57:23 AM
..  at your fingertips.. .. .. .

"The initial goal was to move thousands of Christian constitutionalists to South Carolina to accelerate the return to self-government based upon Christian principles at the local and State level. " - Christian Exodus..

"I want you to just let a wave of intolerance wash over you. I want you to let a wave of hatred wash over you. Yes, hate is good... Our goal is a Christian nation. We have a biblical duty, we are called on by God to conquer this country. We don't want equal time. We don't want pluralism." Randall Terry, founder of Operation Rescue, in The News-Sentinel, Fort Wayne, Indiana 8/16/93

"So let us be blunt about it: We must use the doctrine of religious liberty to gain independence for Christian schools until we train up a generation of people who know that there is no religious neutrality, no neutral law, no neutral education, and no neutral civil government. Then they will be get busy in constructing a Bible-based social, political and religious order which finally denies the religious liberty of the enemies of God."
–Gary North, quoted in Albert J. Menendez, Visions of Reality: What Fundamentalist Schools Teach, Prometheus Books, 1993

"Christians have an obligation, a mandate, a commission, a holy responsibility to reclaim the land for Jesus Christ -- to have dominion in civil structures, just as in every other aspect of life and godliness. But it is dominion we are after. Not just a voice. It is dominion we are after. Not just influence. It is dominion we are after. Not just equal time. It is dominion we are after. World conquest. That's what Christ has commissioned us to accomplish. We must win the world with the power of the Gospel. And we must never settle for anything less... Thus, Christian politics has as its primary intent the conquest of the land -- of men, families, institutions, bureaucracies, courts, and governments for the Kingdom of Christ." From The Changing of the Guard: Biblical Principles for Political Action by George Grant, published in 1987 by Dominion Press

If you want to quake in fear of takeover from a group that no one has heard of, more power to you.  I hope you have a while to wait because Christ will return before that group ever gains traction.

Quote from: taxed on March 02, 2013, 12:23:39 PM
What does this have to do with "the right"?

They see no distinction, even though Terry's wife tends to lean left.
To them, the Tea party is nothing but a bunch of racists, and Jesse Jackson speaks for all blacks.

They only see black and white, yet claim it is the right that refuses to budge, when historically the Right is always the one giving up ground to leftists, which is why we're in the mess we're in.
Now, how is it possible that a Theocratic movement could possibly take place, when the country is abandoning God?

Boggled minds want to know.

Quote from: Solar on March 02, 2013, 12:36:10 PM
They see no distinction, even though Terry's wife tends to lean left.
To them, the Tea party is nothing but a bunch of racists, and Jesse Jackson speaks for all blacks.

They only see black and white, yet claim it is the right that refuses to budge, when historically the Right is always the one giving up ground to leftists, which is why we're in the mess we're in.
Now, how is it possible that a Theocratic movement could possibly take place, when the country is abandoning God?

Boggled minds want to know.

I was gonna say, it's not working very well...

Quote from: AndyJackson on March 02, 2013, 12:23:18 PM
You wouldn't be one of those liberals who think that 4 or 5 silly Christian zealots means a threat of theocracy.......while you dismiss thousands of jihad speeches and thousand of jihad deaths as "just a couple fringe guys".....would you  ?

No.. Though I do not disagree with you concerning silly Christian zealots..  I'm someone that takes threats seriously until if reality demonstrates otherwise.  Christian Exodus, Randal Terry.. and Fred Phelps are dangerous people.. Arrogantly ignoring zealots of any stripe can have serious consequences..

I don't think they (liberals) really believe most of what they say.

They're conditioned to say whatever they think will annoy, shout down, or derail their opponent (and the discussion). 

And they literally don't want any more than that, from what they're saying.

They are not trying to discuss, they are primarily trying to be little shits and gain some sort of advantage with it.

Quote from: Crock Hunter on March 02, 2013, 12:46:22 PM
No.. Though I do not disagree with you concerning silly Christian zealots..  I'm someone that takes threats seriously until if reality demonstrates otherwise.  Christian Exodus, Randal Terry.. and Fred Phelps are dangerous people.. Arrogantly ignoring zealots of any stripe can have serious consequences..

I'd consider the lunatic.  Phelps?  Does he not belong to the same church that protests military funerals?  I wouldn't count on him getting too much support from conservatives.

Didn't Terry run for President this last election?  How'd he do?

Who else you got?

Quote from: Crock Hunter on March 02, 2013, 12:46:22 PM
No.. Though I do not disagree with you concerning silly Christian zealots..  I'm someone that takes threats seriously until if reality demonstrates otherwise.  Christian Exodus, Randal Terry.. and Fred Phelps are dangerous people.. Arrogantly ignoring zealots of any stripe can have serious consequences..

What precisely have Phelps or Terry done that equates to Islamic terrorism and murder  ?

Your attempt at equivalency is just a very slimy method of outright lying.

Can you elaborate on "Christian Exodus" ?

Quote from: Solar on March 02, 2013, 12:36:10 PM

Now, how is it possible that a Theocratic movement could possibly take place, when the country is abandoning God?

Boggled minds want to know.

Abandoning??

Rasmussen: 79% Believe Jesus Christ Rose from the Dead

Quote from: AndyJackson on March 02, 2013, 12:52:58 PM

Can you elaborate on "Christian Exodus" ?

Link - "Christian Exodus"

Quote from: Crock Hunter on March 02, 2013, 12:53:36 PM
Abandoning??

Rasmussen: 79% Believe Jesus Christ Rose from the Dead

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/religion/2011-01-27-1Amuslim27_ST_N.htm

uhhhhh...you found a Christian themed website / community......and this is a threat.....while you and your ilk pretend that Muslim terrorism is just racism or paranoia on someone else's part  ?

You're not trying to discuss, you're just endeavoring to annoy and obfuscate.

Quote from: AndyJackson on March 02, 2013, 12:52:58 PM
What precisely have Phelps or Terry done that equates to Islamic terrorism and murder  ?

Your attempt at equivalency is just a very slimy method of outright lying.

I offered no equivalency... I said... "Arrogantly ignoring zealots of any stripe can have serious consequences.. "  The point obviously was that ignoring radical Islamic terrorists allowed them to spread and strengthen.. Internal threats.. (a push for Theocracy) should be taken just as serious.