Quote from: The Boo Man... on May 24, 2016, 09:29:00 PM
So Trump's VP will be John Kerry.

I am thinking the one in the pant suit, for the woman vote. 

Quote from: The Boo Man... on May 24, 2016, 09:29:00 PM
So Trump's VP will be John Kerry.

The sound of two fishes on the dock - can hardly wait!

Quote from: Gunbunny42 on May 24, 2016, 07:42:20 PM
Trump is a shameless flip-flopper but I can get why NRA did what it did. By virtue of be a flip-flopper Trump may be a gun grabbing nut. Hillary will be a gun grabbing nut.

And to think, they could have gotten behind the only Constitutionalist in the race just weeks before, Hell, still could since he has yet to concede, and send a message to all candidates, which is exactly what an endorsement is supposed to do.

I could see it if Trump was the actual nominee, of which he is not.

Quote from: walkstall on May 24, 2016, 08:50:03 PM
No that's not all... Trump has Flip-flopped on all of this. 

- Nuclear proliferation
- The Iraq War
- Afghanistan War
- Abortion
- Israeli-Palestinian conflict
- Torture
- Immigration
- Gun control
- Muslim ban
- Hillary Clinton
- The Wall
- Fundraising
- Trump filed for four business bankruptcies
- Trump on his 3 marriages
- Bill Clinton

So - You have a solution ?

Quote from: SalemCat on May 25, 2016, 09:13:38 AM
So - You have a solution ?

Yeah, don't blindly follow the leftist.

Quote from: SalemCat on May 25, 2016, 09:13:38 AM
So - You have a solution ?

YES   Write In Cruz  Don't hold your nose and vote for a RINO with an R in front of his name.

Quote from: walkstall on May 25, 2016, 09:47:34 AM
YES   Write In Cruz  Don't hold your nose and vote for a RINO with an R in front of his name.

They actually think a vote for the NY Lib, is a vote for change.

Quote from: Solar on May 25, 2016, 09:49:20 AM
They actually think a vote for the NY Lib, is a vote for change.

There both are like voting for a White b o.  They both will work at outdoing b o's hope and change with the help of the MSM and LIV's.   

Quote from: SalemCat on May 25, 2016, 09:13:38 AM
So - You have a solution ?

Start by editing your pic, "Get out of my party, you damn libs"

Seriously  - this isn't over, yet - it looks that way.  I've written off the two major parties for the POTUS.
Will there be a good third choice, maybe, maybe not.  But, the Dems and Pubs are so fractured, a Ted Cruz write in looks better and better every day.  Of course the MSM isn't going to give any credence - who cares!

Here's a thought you can weigh in your conscience...

Imagine Ted Cruz winning via a write-in vote, and YOU voted for Donald Trump.

Yeah, the revolution started, and you're left standing on the wrong side with your "Vote Stumf" sign.... Smarrrrt!      Regardless of the outcome, I voted on the right side - if the enemy to our freedom enters the oval office, it was over my vote of rejection. 
If the enemy of your liberty takes away your rights - meh, you VOTED for him & empowered him to do so!!!

Donald Trump has done NOTHING to earn my vote or the vote of any other Republican... why give it to him?

Quote from: Hoofer on May 25, 2016, 04:34:23 PMImagine Ted Cruz winning via a write-in vote, and YOU voted for Donald Trump.

Hoofer,

You were doing better with the fur-bearing trout.  Remember your history:  It was Teddy Roosevelt who gave us Woodrow Wilson, and we're still trying to dispel the hangover from that debacle.

The next President of these United States will be a Republican or a Democrat.  One can invoke all kinds or rules for participation or non-participation, but the next President of these United States will be a Republican or a Democrat.  Accept it now and get ahead of the crowd.

Maybe after the Revolution, things will be different, but this is now, not then.

Take care,
Russ

Quote from: Solid Right on May 25, 2016, 05:54:47 PM
Hoofer,

You were doing better with the fur-bearing trout.  Remember your history:  It was Teddy Roosevelt who gave us Woodrow Wilson, and we're still trying to dispel the hangover from that debacle.

The next President of these United States will be a Republican or a Democrat.  One can invoke all kinds or rules for participation or non-participation, but the next President of these United States will be a Republican or a Democrat.  Accept it now and get ahead of the crowd.

Maybe after the Revolution, things will be different, but this is now, not then.

Take care,
Russ

How does any of that negate what he said?
He, like millions of us across this Nation will be writing in Cruz, and it won't be our fault, if the country is saddled with a leftist.

Quote from: Solar on May 25, 2016, 06:10:16 PM1 - How does any of that negate what he said?
2 - He, like millions of us across this Nation will be writing in Cruz, and it won't be our fault, if the country is saddled with a leftist.

Your Solarness --

1 - You need to work on your reading comprehension problem.  I didn't claim that my statement negated his.  I simply offered an alternative viewpoint.

2 - Ah, yes, the Loser's Lament:  "But it wasn't our fault."  Also known as, "Some other dude did it."  All those people who stayed home during the 2012 election can, in their own minds, make the same claim -- but, really, can they?  Surely, it wasn't their fault that all those people who did bother to go vote, voted for Barack Obama.  Or, was it?

Yes, yes, I know all the wonderful quotes about voting your conscience, ad nauseam, but they all ignore the simple proposition that, in this time and in this place, the Presidential election will be a binary process:  The next President of these United States will be a Republican or a Democrat.  If you don't believe that, sit out in your back yard tomorrow, facing the West and wait to observe the sunrise.  Meanwhile,

Be well,
Russ

Quote from: Solid Right on May 25, 2016, 06:43:27 PM
Your Solarness --

1 - You need to work on your reading comprehension problem.  I didn't claim that my statement negated his.  I simply offered an alternative viewpoint.

2 - Ah, yes, the Loser's Lament:  "But it wasn't our fault."  Also known as, "Some other dude did it."  All those people who stayed home during the 2012 election can, in their own minds, make the same claim -- but, really, can they?  Surely, it wasn't their fault that all those people who did bother to go vote, voted for Barack Obama.  Or, was it?

Yes, yes, I know all the wonderful quotes about voting your conscience, ad nauseam, but they all ignore the simple proposition that, in this time and in this place, the Presidential election will be a binary process:  The next President of these United States will be a Republican or a Democrat.  If you don't believe that, sit out in your back yard tomorrow, facing the West and wait to observe the sunrise.  Meanwhile,

Be well,
Russ

Comprehension is not my issue, rather your failure in conveying your point, which still makes no sense.
Your very statement asserts there was an issue with his point that voting for Cruz was somehow not of party, but it was your assertion that a Dim or a Pub would be elected is somehow an alternative viewpoint?
Last I checked, Cruz has been a Pub far longer than Trump, so maybe what you should have said was "The next President of these United States will be a Republican or a Democrat Lib.

But I find it interesting, Trump hasn't even received the nomination, and you're calling us losers?
I'm supporting Cruz regardless, and if he isn't elected, it won't be us who lost, it will be the nation for having elected either a Nationalist socialist or a socialist, but the rest of us can rest assured we did our part in sending the strongest message possible, that the Conservative movement is alive and well despite what the GOP'e and the Dim party managed to pull off.

Quote from: Solar on May 25, 2016, 07:35:13 PM1 - Comprehension is not my issue,
2 -  rather your failure in conveying your point, which still makes no sense.
3 - Your very statement asserts there was an issue with his point that voting for Cruz was somehow not of party,
4 -  but it was your assertion that a Dim or a Pub would be elected is somehow an alternative viewpoint?
5 - Last I checked, Cruz has been a Pub far longer than Trump, so maybe what you should have said was "The next President of these United States will be a Republican or a Democrat Lib.
6 -  and you're calling us losers?
7 -  it won't be us who lost, it will be the nation . . .
8 - but the rest of us can rest assured we did our part in sending the strongest message possible,

Your Solarness --

If you insist on engaging in this nonsense, it would be better if you picked a time when my Ladyfriend was not out of the country.  That way, I wouldn't have the time to help you with the fundamentals of forum posting.

1 - Comprehension is not your issue??  Read on.

2 - Well, as I said once before, "I can explain it to you, but I cannot understand it for you."  You will need to work on that on your own time.

3 - I don't even know what "not of party" is supposed to mean.  I suggested that a write-in vote is not going to produce the next President of these United States.  It's not.  Get over it.

4 - Well, yeah, it is an alternative viewpoint to that of thinking that a write-in vote is going to produce the next President.

5 - I have a deal for you:  If you can refrain from telling me what I should have said, I will extend the same courtesy to you.  I'm actually pretty good at writing what I want to say, in case you hadn't noticed.

6 - Nope; I didn't say that.  There's that reading comprehension problem again.  What I suggested was that you are already tuning up to sing the "Loser's Lament" -- "It wasn't our fault."  Oh, boo hoo.  Stubborn as I am, and that is considerable, I have not yet abandoned the notion that the convention will reject Trump, and, somehow, Cruz will come away with the nomination.  (Yeah, Hoofer, there is that fur-bearing trout story.)

7 - Yes, yes, of course, "It wasn't our fault."  Somewhere around here, somebody has a tag line that says (approx), "It is not Barack Obama who is the problem, it is all those Americans who allowed him to become President."

8 - Oh, golly, gee whiz, yes!  Send that message!  And gag on it for the four years of Hillary, just like we are with Obama.  All those people who stayed home in 2012 really sent a message, didn't they?  And, now, their message is, "But it wasn't our fault."

Since I'm waiting for a phone call from China, and it's not lunch time there yet, I shall amuse myself a little bit more.  You could just ignore me, you know.  I don't post here much, and I only posted because I feel a certain kinship with Hoofer and our common views on gun issues.  Yes, I know, it's an open forum and anybody can respond to anybody, but you could have just passed it by.  Instead, there you are, like a hungry trout rising to a dry fly.

I, too, could ignore you, but I'm passing some idle time at the moment, and seldom have I encountered someone whose opinion of himself quite matches yours, so the temptation is hard to resist.  (Yes, I know, there is another, but he's the President, and he doesn't post here.).

Yes, I understand that you are the Big Frog in this little pond, but I really don't care.  There are so many ponds out there in cyberspace, and so many Big Frogs that one loses track.  That, and you really aren't as good at this stuff as you think you are.  Really, you're not.  I gently suggested that the whole Trump issue seemed to have caused a disconnect in you're logic processing circuitry.  I dunno, now.  Maybe it was always there, and the Trump issue just exacerbates it.

If you would prefer that I not post here anymore, just say so, and I will honor your wishes.  Or, I suppose, you could do your Big Frog thing and ban me, but that might be an admission you're not ready to make.

Anyhow, I think I shall now await my phone call.  Meanwhile,

Be well,
Russ

Quote from: Solid Right on May 25, 2016, 05:54:47 PM
Hoofer,

You were doing better with the fur-bearing trout.  Remember your history:  It was Teddy Roosevelt who gave us Woodrow Wilson, and we're still trying to dispel the hangover from that debacle.

The next President of these United States will be a Republican or a Democrat. One can invoke all kinds or rules for participation or non-participation, but the next President of these United States will be a Republican or a Democrat.  Accept it now and get ahead of the crowd.

Maybe after the Revolution, things will be different, but this is now, not then.

Take care,
Russ

Russ,
The only thing needed for evil to triumph is when good men do nothing, or vote it into office.

My position is on the side of truth & an unspotted conscience, I'm still voting for truth and honor, even if it means I vote like the Amish.

With either Hillary or Donald in the WH, the enemy will occupy the office.  If you're responsible for putting the enemy in power, by what logic would you not support their policies?   This ought to be a no-brainer, right?  I'm not trying to insult you or anyone else, but when did the choice become either Clinton or Trump?  Call it a "Chump choice".

Sorry, I find the embracing of liberalism repulsive, but shouldn't every conservative be in agreement with me?