So now what Marxist Dims?
QuoteThe House intelligence committee concluded Friday there's no evidence President Donald Trump's campaign colluded with Russia to interfere in the 2016 U.S. presidential election.
The heavily redacted 253-page report restates conclusions it made last month.
"The committee found no evidence that President Trump's pre-campaign business dealings formed the basis for collusion during the campaign," the panel report said. "The committee found no evidence that meetings between Trump associates, including [Attorney General] Jeff Sessions, and official representatives of the Russian government, including Ambassador [Sergey] Kislyak, reflected collusion, coordination or conspiracy with the Russian government."
But UPI needed to move the goal post...QuoteThe committee did, however, find fault with the presidential campaigns of both Trump and Democrat Hillary Clinton -- criticizing "poor judgement and ill-considered actions" in each campaign, including the Trump team's "periodic praise for, and communications with, WikiLeaks, a hostile foreign organization."
Hostile only to leftists, that is.https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2018/04/27/Final-House-report-No-collusion-between-Trump-campaign-Russia/3951524844121/
So does this mean Mueller's investigation is concluded? HAH! The demoncraps aren't through yet, no matter what truths are found.
Quote from: zewazir on April 28, 2018, 11:43:10 AM
So does this mean Mueller's investigation is concluded? HAH! The demoncraps aren't through yet, no matter what truths are found.
Exactly!!! They're looking for the tiniest morsel to latch onto, in hopes of discrediting the truth.
Quote from: Solar on April 28, 2018, 11:51:39 AM
Exactly!!! They're looking for the tiniest morsel to latch onto, in hopes of discrediting the truth.
The democrats will handle this like the 2016 election. DENIAL!
Quote from: supsalemgr on April 28, 2018, 12:07:40 PM
The democrats will handle this like the 2016 election. DENIAL!
:lol:
And the 2018 Midterms.
The investigation is not going away any tie soon. Especially when the lawyer Trump jr. met with is now saying is a spy.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/russian-lawyer-informant-trump-tower-meeting-natalia-veselnitskaya-a8326456.html
Tomorrow the usual suspects will be on the shows shouting gotcha!
There are two possibilities.
The investigation drags on until it runs out of gas and Mueller ruins a few people's lives by crucifying them for process crime. None of which will involve the president.
Or
The democrats realize it is hurting them and fearing the mid terms they quietly ask Mueller to drop it.
Now they have to manufacture more 'evidence' and invent other 'crimes' that didn't occur
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on April 28, 2018, 05:41:28 PM
Now they have to manufacture more 'evidence' and invent other 'crimes' that didn't occur
Something new. Something fresh. Maybe accuse Trump of being a drug kingpin.
Quote from: The Boo Man... on April 28, 2018, 05:54:17 PM
Something new. Something fresh. Maybe accuse Trump of being a drug kingpin.
Well Trump does gets 2 scoops of ice cream, everyone else gets only 1.
Quote from: walkstall on April 28, 2018, 06:00:08 PM
Well Trump does gets 2 scoops of ice cream, everyone else gets only 1.
Well, that's because Trump eats all his vegetables.
Quote from: The Boo Man... on April 28, 2018, 06:22:55 PM
Well, that's because Trump eats all his vegetables.
I can see I will not even get ice cream.
Quote from: zewazir on April 28, 2018, 11:43:10 AM
So does this mean Mueller's investigation is concluded? HAH! The demoncraps aren't through yet, no matter what truths are found.
Incredible there are still fools who believe Russia elected Trump.
It's depressing there are so many stupid people.
Quote from: Rotwang on April 28, 2018, 08:11:42 PM
Incredible there are still fools who believe Russia elected Trump.
It's depressing there are so many stupid people.
They can not help their stupidity. Since taking office, President Trump has on several occasions, used his amazing ability
to press just the right button to cause numerous libs heads to explode. There's just not much left to think with. Add that to the fact that there was not much to start with.....
Quote from: s3779m on April 29, 2018, 02:37:16 AM
They can not help their stupidity. Since taking office, President Trump has on several occasions, used his amazing ability
to press just the right button to cause numerous libs heads to explode. There's just not much left to think with. Add that to the fact that there was not much to start with.....
While the MSM attempts to distract from the real perps, the Dim party.
Yeah, this whole fiasco was akin to a toddler caught with his hand in the cookie jar, cholate all over the place, crumbs in his diapers, yet stands firm in denial of ever having touched a cookie.
That's where the left is, they are essentially wasting our tax dollars searching for their imaginary cookie monster. When in fact, it was they who stole the proverbial cookies, or in truth, colluded with Russians, so they know exactly where not to look.
The whole Trump-Russia investigation is a big time,
major, completely laughable farce. There are a thousand things Hillary could blame for why she did not win in 2016.
In addition, it is very easy for any politician, on either side,
to come up with theories as to why they did not win.
However, people must always keep in mind that theories are
theories. At best, they are little more than educated guesswork. It is just silly that Trump's political opponents have chosen to claim that he won the election only because of Russian meddling. I mean, Al Gore was arguably even more justified than Hillary when he chose to dispute the results of the election in 2000. Eventually though he accepted the results in a gentlemanly, very classy way for the good of the country. (Yes, I know he tried for a month or so to force recounts in Florida through the courts but when the Supreme Court made their ruling he knew it was time to close up shop.) It has become quite clear that the people who supported Hillary in 2016 are unwilling to bow out gracefully. The Democrats have shown themselves to be not only sore losers but have demonstrated they would rather destroy Trump than do anything to improve the country.
Quote from: NostalgiaForInfinity73 on May 02, 2018, 10:24:07 AM
The whole Trump-Russia investigation is a big time,
major, completely laughable farce. There are a thousand things
Hillary could blame for why she did not win in 2016.
In addition, it is very easy for any politician, on either side,
to come up with theories as to why they did not win.
However, people must always keep in mind that theories are
theories. At best, they are little more than educated guesswork.
It is just silly that Trump's political opponents have chosen to
claim that he won the election only because of Russian
meddling. I mean, Al Gore was arguably even more justified
than Hillary when he chose to dispute the results of the election
in 2000. Eventually though he accepted the results in a
gentlemanly, very classy way for the good of the country.
(Yes, I know he tried for a month or so to force recounts in
Florida through the courts but when the Supreme Court made
their ruling he knew it was time to close up shop.) It has become
quite clear that the people who supported Hillary in 2016
are unwilling to bow out gracefully. The Democrats have
shown themselves to be not only sore losers but have
demonstrated they would rather destroy Trump than do
anything to improve the country.
That's the new left in a nutshell. Welcome to the forum.
Let me guess, you posted that form your phone? I don't know how you guys can do that, I hit 4 keys at a time. :biggrin:
A reminder worth repeating,
Great leaders have always grasped that instilling fear in their enemies
is vital to their success.
The psychotic left would not dare treat Trump w/the raging contempt
they do if he understood this.
Sadly he does not!
Quote from: Walter Josh on May 02, 2018, 11:10:38 AM
A reminder worth repeating,
Great leaders have always grasped that instilling fear in their enemies
is vital to their success.
The psychotic left would not dare treat Trump w/the raging contempt
they do if he understood this.
Sadly he does not!
Actually Walter, truth is, they're scared shitless of what he is doing, this is why they're unhinged, more than normal for them.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B-95giwldeKgsd0nYiw_sEaSf4kGNLZgEIvEhL2mVAw/edit#gid=0
Trump is finally fighting back.
QuotePresident Donald Trump's legal team became significantly more cohesive on Wednesday with the addition of Emmet Flood, a veteran white collar defense attorney. It also became more aggressive, which could prove tricky for Special Counsel Bob Mueller.
A longtime Washington lawyer who's known Flood for quite some time and who spoke anonymously because of client sensitivities said there's no chance Flood will let the president sit for an interview with Mueller.
"Mueller finally has somebody who's his match," that person said. "You've got a fair fight now."
The person also said White House Counsel Don McGahn played a significant role in bringing Flood onto the president's legal team—pushing for him to be offered Ty Cobb's job and working to convince him to take the position. McGahn and Cobb reportedly had frequent clashes about how to handle the president's legal woes, and Cobb was overheard complaining about McGahn at the BLT Steak restaurant a few blocks from the White House. With Flood, the president's lawyers are likely to be more unified in an aggressive posture toward Mueller.
"He comes across like a Columbo-type—unassuming, but the intellect is gargantuan," the person added.
Flood will step into live negotiations between the president's lawyers and Mueller's team. The Washington Post reported yesterday that Mueller's lawyers have floated the possibility of subpoenaing the president. Such a move would likely lead to a protracted court battle.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-new-lawyer-likely-to-cut-him-off-from-mueller-interview-source
Quote from: The Boo Man... on May 02, 2018, 04:14:00 PM
Trump is finally fighting back.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-new-lawyer-likely-to-cut-him-off-from-mueller-interview-source
Bout Time....
Thanks for the welcome, Solar. You guessed right, I did make that post from my phone. I do most of my news-gathering through my phone so it is convenient for me to make my posts through my phone. Please bear with me while I get the hang of this.
I should apologize to everybody for my post initially turning out like that. The trouble was when I clicked the 'preview' button it led me to believe my post looked normal and didn't have all that space between sentences. I did go back and edit my post as soon as I realized the error. I look forward to stimulating and educational discussion on this forum.
Oh, there's PLENTY of Russian collusion..........
Quote from: Solar on May 02, 2018, 12:02:13 PM
Actually Walter, truth is, they're scared shitless of what he is doing, this is why they're unhinged, more than normal for them.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B-95giwldeKgsd0nYiw_sEaSf4kGNLZgEIvEhL2mVAw/edit#gid=0
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Solar,
Hope you're right.
Suggest Trump cease tweeting and hit the likes
of Rosenstein in the mouth w/ baseball bat!
Quote from: Walter Josh on May 02, 2018, 05:05:54 PM
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Solar,
Hope you're right.
Suggest Trump cease tweeting and hit the likes
of Rosenstein in the mouth w/ baseball bat!
Why would he stop tweeting?
Quote from: taxed on May 02, 2018, 05:11:12 PM
Why would he stop tweeting?
I love the Tweets, that's why I stickied a thread for them. The left despises the fact that he can steal their leftist narrative with one Tweet. :biggrin:
Quote from: Solar on May 02, 2018, 05:13:24 PM
I love the Tweets, that's why I stickied a thread for them. The left despises the fact that he can steal their leftist narrative with one Tweet. :biggrin:
I love them too.
Quote from: taxed on May 02, 2018, 05:17:00 PM
I love them too.
It pisses off the MSM and all the Libs. :lol:
Why stop tweeting?
Obviously I'm a minority of one here and will get lotsa agita for a some time.
Nevertheless, in my opinion, Trump's tweets are nothing but brainless and
illiterate entertainment beloved by far too many well meaning citizens.
Wanna send the msn and the establishment a lima charlie message???
CEASE THE TWEETS, PERMANENTLY SHUT DOWN THE WH PRESS OFFICE AND
TALK DIRECTLY TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ABOUT YOUR VISION, STARTING
W/SCHOOL CHILDREN!!!
Did someone just say: WHY YOU CAN'T DO THAT!!!
Since the Garden of Eden, great leaders have always imposed their vision
by seizing the Moment!!!!!
Quote from: Walter Josh on May 02, 2018, 08:50:44 PM
Why stop tweeting?
Obviously I'm a minority of one here and will get lotsa agita for a some time.
Nevertheless, in my opinion, Trump's tweets are nothing but brainless and
illiterate entertainment beloved by far too many well meaning citizens.
Wanna send the msn and the establishment a lima charlie message???
CEASE THE TWEETS, PERMANENTLY SHUT DOWN THE WH PRESS OFFICE AND
TALK DIRECTLY TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ABOUT YOUR VISION, STARTING
W/SCHOOL CHILDREN!!!
Did someone just say: WHY YOU CAN'T DO THAT!!!
Since the Garden of Eden, great leaders have always imposed their vision
by seizing the Moment!!!!!
A year ago I would have said make that a party of two, a lot has changed. Twitter is now an acceptable way of getting your side of the story out. I used to have a raw nerve hit reading some of president Trumps tweets, not by what he said but how he said it, but had he not said it that way it would not have made the news. The lsm media, by giving the tweets news time, were pushing President Trumps message without even realizing it. And when anything can make liberal heads explode, well it can't be all bad.
Quote from: Walter Josh on May 02, 2018, 08:50:44 PM
Why stop tweeting?
Obviously I'm a minority of one here and will get lotsa agita for a some time.
Nevertheless, in my opinion, Trump's tweets are nothing but brainless and
illiterate entertainment beloved by far too many well meaning citizens.
Wanna send the msn and the establishment a lima charlie message???
CEASE THE TWEETS, PERMANENTLY SHUT DOWN THE WH PRESS OFFICE AND
TALK DIRECTLY TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ABOUT YOUR VISION, STARTING
W/SCHOOL CHILDREN!!!
Did someone just say: WHY YOU CAN'T DO THAT!!!
Since the Garden of Eden, great leaders have always imposed their vision
by seizing the Moment!!!!!
You'll find my response here.
http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/political-discussion-and-debate/trumps-tweets/msg357517/#new
Quote from: s3779m on May 03, 2018, 02:56:48 AM
A year ago I would have said make that a party of two, a lot has changed. Twitter is now an acceptable way of getting your side of the story out. I used to have a raw nerve hit reading some of president Trumps tweets, not by what he said but how he said it, but had he not said it that way it would not have made the news. The lsm media, by giving the tweets news time, were pushing President Trumps message without even realizing it. And when anything can make liberal heads explode, well it can't be all bad.
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#3779 w/respect, here's my concern.
Trump's early posture toward NK has created a timeless opportunity:
* to end a 75 year old war,
* to reunify the Peninsula,
* to encourage the re-emergence of Japan as the natural leader of the Pacific Rim,
* while sending a LC message to Beijing that Free Trade w/o adherence to fair
Rules is fraud that we will not tolerate.
None of this is easy or simple, yet the upside is monumental.
In the Middle East, Trump has the makings of a winning coalition capable
of driving Iran back to the dark ages, who are a mirror image of the late
19th century Ottoman Empire; weak, addicted to intolerant religious fanaticism,
utterly corrupt and a threat to its neighborhood.
Cards will have to be well played here yet the opportunity, again, is monumental.
And what is the media briefing relentlessness inundating us?
Why it's Trump and Stormy and Mueller and Comey and Sessions and Rosenstein
and all the rest of that clown posse'.
Is that vital? Absolutely not. Yet it is a distraction and a serious one.
Trump is in his seventies and set in his ways despite what he is advised.
Given his tweets and briefings, he seethes w/rage over this collusion fandango.
Is it enough to distract him and derail two monumental opportunities???
That is the essence of my very real concern!
Quote from: Walter Josh on May 03, 2018, 12:39:37 PM
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#3779 w/respect, here's my concern.
Trump's early posture toward NK has created a timeless opportunity:
* to end a 75 year old war,
* to reunify the Peninsula,
* to encourage the re-emergence of Japan as the natural leader of the Pacific Rim,
* while sending a LC message to Beijing that Free Trade w/o adherence to fair
Rules is fraud that we will not tolerate.
None of this is easy or simple, yet the upside is monumental.
In the Middle East, Trump has the makings of a winning coalition capable
of driving Iran back to the dark ages, who are a mirror image of the late
19th century Ottoman Empire; weak, addicted to intolerant religious fanaticism,
utterly corrupt and a threat to its neighborhood.
Cards will have to be well played here yet the opportunity, again, is monumental.
And what is the media briefing relentlessness inundating us?
Why it's Trump and Stormy and Mueller and Comey and Sessions and Rosenstein
and all the rest of that clown posse'.
Is that vital? Absolutely not. Yet it is a distraction and a serious one.
Trump is in his seventies and set in his ways despite what he is advised.
Given his tweets and briefings, he seethes w/rage over this collusion fandango.
Is it enough to distract him and derail two monumental opportunities???
That is the essence of my very real concern!
The lsm would not give president Trump credit for all he has done even without the tweets, they do not hate him because of the tweets, they hate him because he exposed them for what they are. The lsm media has tried to destroy president Trump since before he took the oath of office. They are now down to a used up whore to bring him down. I don't think what the lsm says has any influence on what he does, but I do think the polls that show his popularity going up do. If the foreign policy fails, I do not think it will be because of president Trump, after all, look at what he has to negotiate with, basically liars and thieves.
Quote from: s3779m on May 03, 2018, 02:19:25 PM
The lsm would not give president Trump credit for all he has done even without the tweets, they do not hate him because of the tweets, they hate him because he exposed them for what they are. The lsm media has tried to destroy president Trump since before he took the oath of office. They are now down to a used up whore to bring him down. I don't think what the lsm says has any influence on what he does, but I do think the polls that show his popularity going up do. If the foreign policy fails, I do not think it will be because of president Trump, after all, look at what he has to negotiate with, basically liars and thieves.
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Fair enough as you're entitled to your opinion, which I do not share.
Who gets credit or blame here is of no interest to me, akin to who gets the Nobel.
My only interest is in positive results that will lessen the financial cost to the USA
of supporting SK (for 75 years), in having China change its attitude and behavior
regarding trade w/the USA and in allowing the USA to reduce/eliminate its troop/support
levels in the ME, now necessary to mitigate the impetus of chronic agitation fomented
by the surrogates of the Iranians.
For these monumental tasks, as I said previously, we need a laser focused Trump not
distracted by msn bullshit masquerading as entertainment.
Quote from: Walter Josh on May 03, 2018, 03:28:08 PM
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Fair enough as you're entitled to your opinion, which I do not share.
Who gets credit or blame here is of no interest to me, akin to who gets the Nobel.
My only interest is in positive results that will lessen the financial cost to the USA
of supporting SK (for 75 years), in having China change its attitude and behavior
regarding trade w/the USA and in allowing the USA to reduce/eliminate its troop/support
levels in the ME, now necessary to mitigate the impetus of chronic agitation fomented
by the surrogates of the Iranians.
For these monumental tasks, as I said previously, we need a laser focused Trump not
distracted by msn bullshit masquerading as entertainment.
Just a couple of quick points, Trump or anyone else is not going to stop the lsm from entertaining by masquerading as bullshit, that is who they are. Two, Trump has not changed. This is who he is and so far he has done a pretty damn good job.
I understand we need a laser focused Trump, I see no signs we do not have that. Pissing off libs seems to be how he relaxes.
P.s. Your right, we do not share the same opinions.
Quote from: NostalgiaForInfinity73 on May 02, 2018, 04:56:49 PM
Thanks for the welcome, Solar. You guessed right, I did make that post from my phone. I do most of my news-gathering through my phone so it is convenient for me to make my posts through my phone. Please bear with me while I get the hang of this.
I should apologize to everybody for my post initially turning out like that. The trouble was when I clicked the 'preview' button it led me to believe my post looked normal and didn't have all that space between sentences. I did go back and edit my post as soon as I realized the error. I look forward to stimulating and educational discussion on this forum.
No prob. Again welcome, everyone is welcome. How did you find us?
Quote from: Walter Josh on May 03, 2018, 12:39:37 PM
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#3779 w/respect, here's my concern.
Trump's early posture toward NK has created a timeless opportunity:
* to end a 75 year old war,
* to reunify the Peninsula,
* to encourage the re-emergence of Japan as the natural leader of the Pacific Rim,
* while sending a LC message to Beijing that Free Trade w/o adherence to fair
Rules is fraud that we will not tolerate.
None of this is easy or simple, yet the upside is monumental.
In the Middle East, Trump has the makings of a winning coalition capable
of driving Iran back to the dark ages, who are a mirror image of the late
19th century Ottoman Empire; weak, addicted to intolerant religious fanaticism,
utterly corrupt and a threat to its neighborhood.
Cards will have to be well played here yet the opportunity, again, is monumental.
And what is the media briefing relentlessness inundating us?
Why it's Trump and Stormy and Mueller and Comey and Sessions and Rosenstein
and all the rest of that clown posse'.
Is that vital? Absolutely not. Yet it is a distraction and a serious one.
Trump is in his seventies and set in his ways despite what he is advised.
Given his tweets and briefings, he seethes w/rage over this collusion fandango.
Is it enough to distract him and derail two monumental opportunities???
That is the essence of my very real concern!
He usually seems really upbeat and happy in public (unless hes talking about something evil like ms13)
Quote from: T Hunt on May 05, 2018, 01:43:59 PM
He usually seems really upbeat and happy in public (unless hes talking about something evil like ms13)
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Respectfully, as my core point is simple.
The USA has three major confrontations / matters on the boil
at this moment; namely, Korea, China and Iran, each of which
require very serious attention before any decisions.
The collusion / obstruction fandango is, at best, a distraction for Trump.
Quote from: Walter Josh on May 05, 2018, 09:47:29 PM
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Respectfully, as my core point is simple.
The USA has three major confrontations / matters on the boil
at this moment; namely, Korea, China and Iran, each of which
require very serious attention before any decisions.
The collusion / obstruction fandango is, at best, a distraction for Trump.
Totally agree, Korea, China and Iran are important, but liberalism is our biggest threat and it is right here now.
https://townhall.com/columnists/derekhunter/2018/05/06/liberalism-must-be-destroyed-n2477924
I do believe this is Trump's main focus as he is exposing liberalism for what it is, and I do believe our enemies see exactly what is going on.
Quote from: Solar on April 29, 2018, 06:42:21 AM
While the MSM attempts to distract from the real perps, the Dim party.
Yeah, this whole fiasco was akin to a toddler caught with his hand in the cookie jar, cholate all over the place, crumbs in his diapers, yet stands firm in denial of ever having touched a cookie.
That's where the left is, they are essentially wasting our tax dollars searching for their imaginary cookie monster. When in fact, it was they who stole the proverbial cookies, or in truth, colluded with Russians, so they know exactly where not to look.
Mr. Sessions, an old typing exercise, but yet true as ever -
now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country. Grow a pair, Sir, and come to the aid of your country.
Quote from: Walter Josh on May 05, 2018, 09:47:29 PM
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Respectfully, as my core point is simple.
The USA has three major confrontations / matters on the boil
at this moment; namely, Korea, China and Iran, each of which
require very serious attention before any decisions.
The collusion / obstruction fandango is, at best, a distraction for Trump.
I dont think it distracts him at all. Im sure it irritated him when it first started but he has since turned it to his advantage. Now it will only help boost gop turnout for the midterms and skyrocket his approval ratings even higher. In fact it is more helpful to him than that, it is the opening chink in the libs armor, the collusion delusion is trumps opportunity to expose the lefts corrupt coup as it all turns to point at the dems.
I dont think the collusion delusion takes anything away from trumps efforts in foriegn or even domestic issues. The LSM DOES NOT DISTRACT TRUMP. They only distract themselves and their voters. In fact i think trump doesnt even want them talking about his successes. He knows they have no power and no one who matters listenes to them so he wants them talking about issues that dont matter. The LSM is doing EXACTLY what trump wants them too, helping him every step of the way.
I don't think Trump cares. If anyone thinks they are invincible it's Trump.
Quote from: s3779m on May 06, 2018, 03:21:43 AM
Totally agree, Korea, China and Iran are important, but liberalism is our biggest threat and it is right here now.
https://townhall.com/columnists/derekhunter/2018/05/06/liberalism-must-be-destroyed-n2477924
I do believe this is Trump's main focus as he is exposing liberalism for what it is, and I do believe our enemies see exactly what is going on.
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Ah Liberalism; a good word corrupted by many evil people lusting for power.
The Natural Law, guided Man since 8000 BC, later reinforced by the sentiment
of Religion. In essence, Mankind had adhered to the impulse of Principled
Conservatism for almost 10,000 years, allowing him to survive and thrive.
Then the French, the catalysts for every crackpot heresy since the Fall of Rome,
inflicted their 'Enlightenment' on civilization, w/all its subversive nostrums;
among them egalitarianism spawning progressivism spawning socialism
spawning collectivism and all the rest of the isms; in the process changing the
world irrevocably and for the worse.
This ideology, w/its religious trappings, has been is place for some 300 years
and ain't going away any time soon. given the lack of awareness of its danger
by far too many easily led people. Jousting w/it is a waste of time better spent
on matters of immediate importance and impact such as Korea, China and Iran;
which deserve and need our, and more critically, Trump's laser focus.
Quote from: T Hunt on May 06, 2018, 09:41:37 AM
I dont think it distracts him at all. Im sure it irritated him when it first started but he has since turned it to his advantage. Now it will only help boost gop turnout for the midterms and skyrocket his approval ratings even higher. In fact it is more helpful to him than that, it is the opening chink in the libs armor, the collusion delusion is trumps opportunity to expose the lefts corrupt coup as it all turns to point at the dems.
I dont think the collusion delusion takes anything away from trumps efforts in foriegn or even domestic issues. The LSM DOES NOT DISTRACT TRUMP. They only distract themselves and their voters. In fact i think trump doesnt even want them talking about his successes. He knows they have no power and no one who matters listenes to them so he wants them talking about issues that dont matter. The LSM is doing EXACTLY what trump wants them too, helping him every step of the way.
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Respectfully disagree strongly yet you're entitled to your opinion.
The msm plays this snare drum 24/7/365 because they know two big things:
* Trump simply cannot resist talking/tweeting about collusion/obstruction.
* It raises their viewership, increasing ratings which inflates advertising revenue.
So let's discuss China, one of three 'foreign matters' on the boil!
In 2017 we incurred a $375 billion trade deficit w/them, as we
have for some 20 years; aggregating more than $6.0 trillion.
Trump correctly raised hell over this and China agreed to trade
talks which were held in Beijing on Thursday. We argued our case,
presented our demands and awaited their response.
They demurred, telling us they would get back to us. When?
Er..... perhaps sometime next year. Wow, some sense of urgency.
Our delegation packed up and left and are now back in DC.
Headlines from the Financial Times(London) and the Wall Street Journal (Asia)
blared "China/USA Trade Talks end as soon as they began". Some success huh?
And Trump's impact was non-existent!
Moral of the tale is real simple. Our success w/Korea, w/China and w/Iran
is more than important, it's vital. What interests the media is bullshit!
Quote from: Walter Josh on May 06, 2018, 09:19:27 PM
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Respectfully disagree strongly yet you're entitled to your opinion.
The msm plays this snare drum 24/7/365 because they know two big things:
* Trump simply cannot resist talking/tweeting about collusion/obstruction.
* It raises their viewership, increasing ratings which inflates advertising revenue.
So let's discuss China, one of three 'foreign matters' on the boil!
In 2017 we incurred a $375 billion trade deficit w/them, as we
have for some 20 years; aggregating more than $6.0 trillion.
Trump correctly raised hell over this and China agreed to trade
talks which were held in Beijing on Thursday. We argued our case,
presented our demands and awaited their response.
They demurred, telling us they would get back to us. When?
Er..... perhaps sometime next year. Wow, some sense of urgency.
Our delegation packed up and left and are now back in DC.
Headlines from the Financial Times(London) and the Wall Street Journal (Asia)
blared "China/USA Trade Talks end as soon as they began". Some success huh?
And Trump's impact was non-existent!
Moral of the tale is real simple. Our success w/Korea, w/China and w/Iran
is more than important, it's vital. What interests the media is bullshit!
Our problems with Korea and Iran did not occur just because Trump became president, just like the trade deficit did not occur overnight. But what I do see in your opinion, which we know you are entitled to, if these talks do not go a certain way and deliver a certain way it will be because Trump in not laser focused. Looking back, it was Trump who brought Korea and China along this far. We will not get any of this solved overnight and in the past it has been our impatience which has got us bad deals. The fact that an agreement with China has not been reached after one set of meetings show that we did not give in just to make a deal. This will not happen overnight. But, President Trump has accomplished more in foreign policy in one year than past presidents have in 24 years. He must be doing something right.
Quote from: Walter Josh on May 06, 2018, 07:25:59 PM
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Ah Liberalism; a good word corrupted by many evil people lusting for power.
The Natural Law, guided Man since 8000 BC, later reinforced by the sentiment
of Religion. In essence, Mankind had adhered to the impulse of Principled
Conservatism for almost 10,000 years, allowing him to survive and thrive.
Then the French, the catalysts for every crackpot heresy since the Fall of Rome,
inflicted their 'Enlightenment' on civilization, w/all its subversive nostrums;
among them egalitarianism spawning progressivism spawning socialism
spawning collectivism and all the rest of the isms; in the process changing the
world irrevocably and for the worse.
This ideology, w/its religious trappings, has been is place for some 300 years
and ain't going away any time soon. given the lack of awareness of its danger
by far too many easily led people. Jousting w/it is a waste of time better spent
on matters of immediate importance and impact such as Korea, China and Iran;
which deserve and need our, and more critically, Trump's laser focus.
What happened 10,000 years ago concerns me less than what is occurring here, right now. We have a party hell bent on changing our constitutional rights and creating an elite class for whom there will never be any justice served, and that in my opinion is a problem what can affect me more than the falling of rome.
Quote from: Walter Josh on May 06, 2018, 09:19:27 PM
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Respectfully disagree strongly yet you're entitled to your opinion.
The msm plays this snare drum 24/7/365 because they know two big things:
* Trump simply cannot resist talking/tweeting about collusion/obstruction.
* It raises their viewership, increasing ratings which inflates advertising revenue.
So let's discuss China, one of three 'foreign matters' on the boil!
In 2017 we incurred a $375 billion trade deficit w/them, as we
have for some 20 years; aggregating more than $6.0 trillion.
Trump correctly raised hell over this and China agreed to trade
talks which were held in Beijing on Thursday. We argued our case,
presented our demands and awaited their response.
They demurred, telling us they would get back to us. When?
Er..... perhaps sometime next year. Wow, some sense of urgency.
Our delegation packed up and left and are now back in DC.
Headlines from the Financial Times(London) and the Wall Street Journal (Asia)
blared "China/USA Trade Talks end as soon as they began". Some success huh?
And Trump's impact was non-existent!
Moral of the tale is real simple. Our success w/Korea, w/China and w/Iran
is more than important, it's vital. What interests the media is bullshit!
Walter, why is it so important we walk away with little to show for our efforts? After decades of capitulation and giving up the store, Trump said FU, either We get what we want or the deal is off.
And you take issue with that? AS a lifelong CEO myself, Trump did exactly the right thing. Give it time, we hold all the cards in this game, China depends on us, not the other way around.
As evidenced by how quickly the Nation ramped up for WWII production. If necessary, Americans will gladly sacrifice for the short time while America rebuilds its manufacturing base and leaves China in the dust.
Quote from: s3779m on May 07, 2018, 03:05:40 AM
Our problems with Korea and Iran did not occur just because Trump became president, just like the trade deficit did not occur overnight. But what I do see in your opinion, which we know you are entitled to, if these talks do not go a certain way and deliver a certain way it will be because Trump in not laser focused. Looking back, it was Trump who brought Korea and China along this far. We will not get any of this solved overnight and in the past it has been our impatience which has got us bad deals. The fact that an agreement with China has not been reached after one set of meetings show that we did not give in just to make a deal. This will not happen overnight. But, President Trump has accomplished more in foreign policy in one year than past presidents have in 24 years. He must be doing something right.
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I voted for Trump and wish him well, hardly for my edification,
but for the sake of the nation whose best interests he does feel.
Nevertheless, I have no illusions about him, given his temperament,
nor do I engage in happy talk.
Obviously he caused none of these problems, yet has been given
an opportunity by circumstance plus his nature to speak boldly.
Certainly to his credit, raising awareness was long past due, yet his
achievements in foreign affairs surely remain in the 'we shall see'
category rather than in the 'well done' category.
The Trade Meeting w/China was illustrative, as it pointed to China's
chronic bad faith in trade for more than a generation, all over the world.
Equally illustrative was their retort that they accepted no blame for this
behavior and and would get back to us whenever.
For China, since it's earliest days of the Qin and Han Dynasties, words
have meant little and actions everything to Chinese leadership; a reality
Trump will very likely have to confront sooner rather than later.
We shall see.
Quote from: Walter Josh on May 07, 2018, 11:50:09 AM
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I voted for Trump and wish him well, hardly for my edification,
but for the sake of the nation whose best interests he does feel.
Nevertheless, I have no illusions about him, given his temperament,
nor do I engage in happy talk.
Obviously he caused none of these problems, yet has been given
an opportunity by circumstance plus his nature to speak boldly.
Certainly to his credit, raising awareness was long past due, yet his
achievements in foreign affairs surely remain in the 'we shall see'
category rather than in the 'well done' category.
The Trade Meeting w/China was illustrative, as it pointed to China's
chronic bad faith in trade for more than a generation, all over the world.
Equally illustrative was their retort that they accepted no blame for this
behavior and and would get back to us whenever.
For China, since it's earliest days of the Qin and Han Dynasties, words
have meant little and actions everything to Chinese leadership; a reality
Trump will very likely have to confront sooner rather than later.
We shall see.
His achievements are too long to list, but to name a few, Saudi Arabia, that one is huge, especially where it gutted the Dim party donations.
Add to that, Defeating ISIS.
Rebuilding the military.
Building a border wall. (in progress)
Cutting funding for sanctuary cities.
Reducing regulations on manufacturers.
Placing a hiring freeze on federal employees. ETC...
Or had you not noticed?
Quote from: Solar on May 07, 2018, 06:53:51 AM
Walter, why is it so important we walk away with little to show for our efforts? After decades of capitulation and giving up the store, Trump said FU, either We get what we want or the deal is off.
And you take issue with that? AS a lifelong CEO myself, Trump did exactly the right thing. Give it time, we hold all the cards in this game, China depends on us, not the other way around.
As evidenced by how quickly the Nation ramped up for WWII production. If necessary, Americans will gladly sacrifice for the short time while America rebuilds its manufacturing base and leaves China in the dust.
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Solar,
Agree we certainly need not walk away empty handed.
Also agree that by calling attention to China, Trump did us
and the world a large favor.
My core point is direct and simple.
There are several serious issues on the front burner now and
as any CEO, such as your good-self knows, one has to prioritize;
so I urge him to move this collusion /obstruction malarkey from
his Dining Room to the detached garage.
Now that Mueller is being raped on the Manafort "reschedule this thing forever", and the "Russians who will never show up and will be found guilty in absentia" actually SHOWING UP for discovery...............
..here comes this one - http://freebeacon.com/issues/fbi-delays-release-communications-firm-examined-dnc-servers/?utm_source=Freedom+Mail&utm_campaign=a2cbcefe3c-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2018_05_04&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_b5e6e0e9ea-a2cbcefe3c-45941157
Mueller being told to give up the Hillary server communications with Crowdstrike, and trying to avoid it.
Looks like Mueller is enjoying several loser-blowouts just as bad as Anthrax !!
Throw in Flynn too. What a hilarious show.
Quote from: Walter Josh on May 07, 2018, 12:16:09 PM
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Solar,
Agree we certainly need not walk away empty handed.
Also agree that by calling attention to China, Trump did us
and the world a large favor.
My core point is direct and simple.
There are several serious issues on the front burner now and
as any CEO, such as your good-self knows, one has to prioritize;
so I urge him to move this collusion /obstruction malarkey from
his Dining Room to the detached garage.
The left is doing that for him, except this time it's not the garage, it'll be a holding cell.
Quote from: Walter Josh on May 07, 2018, 12:16:09 PM
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Solar,
Agree we certainly need not walk away empty handed.
Also agree that by calling attention to China, Trump did us
and the world a large favor.
My core point is direct and simple.
There are several serious issues on the front burner now and
as any CEO, such as your good-self knows, one has to prioritize;
so I urge him to move this collusion /obstruction malarkey from
his Dining Room to the detached garage.
OTOH, I sometimes get the feeling Trump uses the left's own distractions against them. While they're harping on this or that "collusion" story, or going wild over the latest Trump tweet, Trump and his administration do things like negotiate one of the largest tax cuts in history, cutting back scores of overbearing EPA and other regulations, brought NK to the negotiations table, convinced a number of NATO allies to honor their financial commitments, enacted a variety of policies which has unemployment down to 3.9%, Black and Hispanic unemployment down to historic lows, and a whole host of other accomplishments which the MSM have been too busy with tweets and collusion theories to tell J.Q.Public how bad they are doing under Trump.
https://twitter.com/dominicholden/status/993558810404052992
Quote from: The Boo Man... on May 07, 2018, 05:40:32 PM
https://twitter.com/dominicholden/status/993558810404052992
One more down and out. :thumbsup:
How that wave going for them. :rolleyes:
Quote from: walkstall on May 07, 2018, 07:05:01 PM
One more down and out. :thumbsup:
How that wave going for them. :rolleyes:
As Solar said the blue wave is just Ty-D-Bol swirling around the toilet.
Quote from: The Boo Man... on May 07, 2018, 07:25:04 PM
As Solar said the blue wave is just Ty-D-Bol swirling around the toilet.
(https://i2.wp.com/dbdailyupdate.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Blue-Wave.jpg?w=600)
Quote from: Solar on May 10, 2018, 07:32:16 AM
(https://i2.wp.com/dbdailyupdate.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Blue-Wave.jpg?w=600)
If the blue wave is just Ty-D-Bol swirling around the toilet does that make Tom Perez a urinal cake?
Quote from: The Boo Man... on May 10, 2018, 05:37:31 PM
If the blue wave is just Ty-D-Bol swirling around the toilet does that make Tom Perez a urinal cake?
That would actually mean he has a purpose. Nah, he's the turd that plugs the line.
Quote from: Solar on May 10, 2018, 08:46:08 PM
That would actually mean he has a purpose. Nah, he's the turd that plugs the line.
So, he's worse than a urinal cake. The only thing worse than a urinal cake is....being the head of the DNC! And we've come full circle folks.
Quote from: The Boo Man... on May 10, 2018, 11:30:10 PM
So, he's worse than a urinal cake. The only thing worse than a urinal cake is....being the head of the DNC! And we've come full circle folks.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Yep, urinal cakes have a place in society and serve a purpose, as opposed to the DNC which literally plays the opposite function.