Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on August 11, 2014, 09:32:49 PM
Um, once they're over here, they certainly are our problem.

Ah yes, the sole reason you idiots don't want a secure border.

QuoteYou're full of shit.  The United States is orders of magnitude more stable and self sufficient than plenty of nations that have accepted refugees.  To us, "economic hardship" is having to live in a one room apartment.  To the people who are fleeing here, "economic hardship" is facing literal starvation.

Yeah and what happens if we just take in everyone that wanders over the border. Think for once kid.

QuoteYou lie.  Job figures are improving, and the economy has steadily grown over the past few years.  Bush's recession is over, and we certainly have enough discretionary spending to accommodate a few immigrant children.

Fail asshole. What is the labor participation rate? How any of the jobs created under Obama are part time? Do some homework junior.

QuoteWho said anything about "adding" more?  Once they're already here, deporting them is going to cost more money than letting them stay.  You are the one who wants to empty our coffins to track down these people.

Really? A plane ticket costs more than supporting these people?

QuoteI'd imagine they're not in the same situation at all, since everybody wants to get out and nobody wants to get in.  We're a pretty wealthy nation, and even in our worst economic straits, everybody wants to come here.  Which is somehow a bad thing, in your mind.

Don't put words in my mouth junior. Them wanting to come here does not mean we can sustain them.

Quote from: The Boo Man... on August 11, 2014, 09:40:29 PM
Ah yes, the sole reason you idiots don't want a secure border.

You have a habit of responding to points with smartass remarks rather than logical rebuttals.  Here, you're clearly not breaking it.

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Yeah and what happens if we just take in everyone that wanders over the border.  Think for once kid.

Because obviously, accepting children refugees means we're accepting "everyone what wanders over the border".     Thinking usually requires logic, something you obviously lack if you think "children" and "everyone" are synonyms.

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Fail asshole. What is the labor participation rate? How any of the jobs created under Obama are part time? Do some homework junior.

Oh, are you going to suggest that the economy is worse now than it was at the end of Bush's years?  I'd like to see some data please.  It's not my homework, it's yours, since you made the claim.

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Really? A plane ticket costs more than supporting these people?

If you think the only expenditure needed to deport immigrants is to physically transport them, you're beyond help.

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Don't put words in my mouth junior. Them wanting to come here does not mean we can sustain them.

And I'm supposed to take your word that we can't sustain child refugees...because?  To take pity on you, and your obvious inability to produce or analyze statistics in any capacity?  Are you math impaired, or something?

Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on August 11, 2014, 09:47:09 PM
You have a habit of responding to points with smartass remarks rather than logical rebuttals.  Here, you're clearly not breaking it.

Nope. You just can't refute logic.

QuoteBecause obviously, accepting children refugees means we're accepting "everyone what wanders over the border".     Thinking usually requires logic, something you obviously lack if you think "children" and "everyone" are synonyms.

Who is being sent back?

QuoteOh, are you going to suggest that the economy is worse now than it was at the end of Bush's years?  I'd like to see some data please.  It's not my homework, it's yours, since you made the claim.

Really? You are asking me to present data to back up arguments I didn't make? Any road if you are not aware that the labor participation rate is at its lowest since Carter was president then you need to stop posting here. That is common knowledge.

QuoteIf you think the only expenditure needed to deport immigrants is to physically transport them, you're beyond help.

Well it's a good thing I never said that now isn't it.

QuoteAnd I'm supposed to take your word that we can't sustain child refugees...because?  To take pity on you, and your obvious inability to produce or analyze statistics in any capacity?  Are you math impaired, or something?

Not children but tens of thousands of illegal immigrants. By the way, learn the definition of a refugee

Quote from: The Boo Man... on August 11, 2014, 09:15:13 PM
What a dumb ass argument. If they can't afford it then they shouldn't come here.

Why is this idiot here?

Because Taxed plays with his food.
As long as Taxed wants to use him as an example of liberal intellect, and Scifan doesn't catch on, then he'll remain as a chew toy.

As smart as Sci thinks he is, he is a perfect example to others out there of how faith, lunacy and ignorance all comes together in a perfect storm of stupidity to illustrate one has to give up critical thinking to believe in such an obvious scam.

EG. Co2, something the entire spectrum of life on this planet relies on to survive, suddenly becomes classified as a pollutant, did he stop and ever question the wisdom behind this move.

Yep, poster child written all over it.

QuoteAs long as Taxed wants to use him as an example of liberal intellect, and Scifan doesn't catch on, then he'll remain as a chew toy.

"Chew toy"! I like that! 

Quote from: mdgiles on August 12, 2014, 05:45:07 AM
"Chew toy"! I like that! 

I just wish it didn't have such an irritating squeaker built into it, so every time you bite down, it makes noise.
I know my dog is the same way, as soon as she would get the squeaky out, the toy was worthless.

Sci is the same way, irritating, broken record of circular argument low IQ, but it's that excessive noise that's the attraction.

Quote from: mdgiles on August 12, 2014, 05:45:07 AM
"Chew toy"! I like that! 

Pass this along, next time you decide to dance.

Quote from: Solar on August 12, 2014, 05:54:41 AM

I just wish it didn't have such an irritating squeaker built into it, so every time you bite down, it makes noise.
I know my dog is the same way, as soon as she would get the squeaky out, the toy was worthless.

Sci is the same way, irritating, broken record of circular argument low IQ, but it's that excessive noise that's the attraction.

Funny how "no more compassion" morphed so slickly into a troll-bashing exercise. Congress is out, the news media are all writing each other for spin-doctor tutoring, the public is on vacation or dealing with real life, and the pols are home pestering voters and burning good air. It's the boring season and he's here. What more excuse do we need?

Quote from: Solar on August 12, 2014, 05:18:08 AM
Because Taxed plays with his food.
As long as Taxed wants to use him as an example of liberal intellect, and Scifan doesn't catch on, then he'll remain as a chew toy.

As smart as Sci thinks he is, he is a perfect example to others out there of how faith, lunacy and ignorance all comes together in a perfect storm of stupidity to illustrate one has to give up critical thinking to believe in such an obvious scam.

EG. Co2, something the entire spectrum of life on this planet relies on to survive, suddenly becomes classified as a pollutant, did he stop and ever question the wisdom behind this move.

Yep, poster child written all over it.

Hey now solar you know we're supposed to get rid of all the CO2 so the plants these liberals insist we're supposed to eat exclusively all die off because they can no longer photosynthesize sunlight. :)

Quote from: daidalos on August 12, 2014, 08:06:07 AM
Hey now solar you know we're supposed to get rid of all the CO2 so the plants these liberals insist we're supposed to eat exclusively all die off because they can no longer photosynthesize sunlight. :)

Worse than that, the planet needs CO2 to keep it warm. If these A-holes ever do manage to lower the CO2 levels we may find ourselves in the middle of an ice age.

Quote from: mdgiles on August 12, 2014, 08:45:31 AM
Worse than that, the planet needs CO2 to keep it warm. If these A-holes ever do manage to lower the CO2 levels we may find ourselves in the middle of an ice age.

True, Co2 increases always followed heating on the planet, so it only figures that if Co2 is increasing at cyclical norms, we're out of the warming phase and headed in the opposite direction.

But lets not let science get in the way of an emotional movement by the religious fanatics on the left.
Because we all know Cons hate Gaia.
Did I mention I hate Libs?

Quote from: mdgiles on August 12, 2014, 05:45:07 AM
"Chew toy"! I like that! 

You had not seen this before now?  Not to fret, I had to have it explained to me too.  Quite entertaining when you learn to expect the unexpected.  This is what I like about this crew.  Informative, truthful and entertaining.  I think I'll throw my TV outta' the window.   You don't do badly at it either.   

Quote from: The Boo Man... on August 11, 2014, 09:52:59 PM
Nope. You just can't refute logic.

You wouldn't know "logic" if it came to you in a Ronald Reagan costume at your church congregation.  How the fuck is "Ah yes, the sole reason you idiots don't want a secure border" a logical rebuttal to "Um, once they're over here, they certainly are our problem"?  It's a clever attempt to shift the subject matter with an insult superfluously connected to the topic, but not actually addressing the argument.  Were you doing this intentionally, or did you honestly think you were being "logical"?

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Who is being sent back?

Don't change the subject.  You claimed that accepting child refugees was the same as accepting everyone, which was beyond our nation's abilities to house.  Justify this assertion.

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Really? You are asking me to present data to back up arguments I didn't make?

You're full of shit.  You claimed that Obama had reduced us to a part time economy; you carry the burden of harnessing your inner google warrior and finding the evidence for this.  Try not to make assertions you can't support in the future.

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Well it's a good thing I never said that now isn't it.

Again, I can't tell if you're being retarded, or a liar.  I claimed that deporting illegal immigrants would cost more money than letting them stay, and you replied with "Really? A plane ticket costs more than supporting these people?", obviously substituting "a plane ticket" for "deporting them".  Ergo, your reptilian brain clearly assumed that the costs of deportation only factored in the physical transportation, and nothing else, which is quite pathetic, to say the least.

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Not children but tens of thousands of illegal immigrants.

Read the OP, junior.  We're talking about the recent immigration crisis.

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By the way, learn the definition of a refugee

Merriam-Webster defines "refugee" as "a person who flees to a foreign country or power to escape danger or persecution."  These immigrant children have reported extreme amounts of danger in their home countries; many are without families, and some have reported being accosted by gangs and forced to take drugs and even fight in their turf-wars.  Smaller and poorer countries, often at the imploring of the US, have taken in larger amounts of much older refugees before.  You republitards love to wave about the greatness of America, but when the public eye is on us, actions matter more than words.

Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on August 13, 2014, 06:56:14 PM
You wouldn't know "logic" if it came to you in a Ronald Reagan costume at your church congregation.  How the fuck is "Ah yes, the sole reason you idiots don't want a secure border" a logical rebuttal to "Um, once they're over here, they certainly are our problem"?  It's a clever attempt to shift the subject matter with an insult superfluously connected to the topic, but not actually addressing the argument.  Were you doing this intentionally, or did you honestly think you were being "logical"?

I was responding to this:

Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on August 11, 2014, 09:32:49 PM
Um, once they're over here, they certainly are our problem.

And that explains why we should secure the border. All they have to do is set foot on our soil and you seem to think we have an obligation to support them. We don't. Oh and the rest of what you wrote is pure emotional bollocks. You can do better.

QuoteDon't change the subject.  You claimed that accepting child refugees was the same as accepting everyone, which was beyond our nation's abilities to house.  Justify this assertion.

How is it different?

QuoteYou're full of shit.  You claimed that Obama had reduced us to a part time economy; you carry the burden of harnessing your inner google warrior and finding the evidence for this.  Try not to make assertions you can't support in the future.

http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300000

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/21/part-time-job-creation_n_3788365.html

QuoteAgain, I can't tell if you're being retarded, or a liar.  I claimed that deporting illegal immigrants would cost more money than letting them stay, and you replied with "Really? A plane ticket costs more than supporting these people?", obviously substituting "a plane ticket" for "deporting them".  Ergo, your reptilian brain clearly assumed that the costs of deportation only factored in the physical transportation, and nothing else, which is quite pathetic, to say the least.

Don't get mad at me because I proved you wrong.

QuoteRead the OP, junior.  We're talking about the recent immigration crisis.

Yes. Yes we are And the number of "family units" crossing the border has been hidden.

QuoteMerriam-Webster defines "refugee" as "a person who flees to a foreign country or power to escape danger or persecution."  These immigrant children have reported extreme amounts of danger in their home countries; many are without families, and some have reported being accosted by gangs and forced to take drugs and even fight in their turf-wars.  Smaller and poorer countries, often at the imploring of the US, have taken in larger amounts of much older refugees before.  You republitards love to wave about the greatness of America, but when the public eye is on us, actions matter more than words.

Awesome but what we are talking about is the US GOVERNMENT'S definition of a refugee. I didn't specify that because I thought you would have known that since you spend so much time telling us how dumb we are and how smart you are.

QuoteRefugee status or asylum may be granted to people who have been persecuted or fear they will be persecuted on account of race, religion, nationality, and/or membership in a particular social group or political opinion.

So lets recap junior.

You don't know what the labor participation rate is
You don't know the percentage of part time jobs created under Obama
You don't know the number of adults or "family units" crossing the border
And you don't know what the US government's definition of a refugee is

What good are you? You add nothing to this forum except some comic relief. The only thing you have accomplished is to make me reconsider my position on abortion.

Quote from: The Boo Man... on August 13, 2014, 08:27:58 PM


So lets recap junior.

You don't know what the labor participation rate is
You don't know the percentage of part time jobs created under Obama
You don't know the number of adults or "family units" crossing the border
And you don't know what the US government's definition of a refugee is

What good are you? You add nothing to this forum except some comic relief. The only thing you have accomplished is to make me reconsider my position on abortion.

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