Quote from: elmerfudd on February 04, 2012, 11:49:33 AM
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/102-tax-rate-takes-cake-160010322.html

Pretty good article.  Here's a pithy comment taken from it:

"The best way to have everyone pay their fair share is to tax all income (whether earned or unearned) at the same rates," his accountant, Jeffrey Rosenthal, said.

I'd have to see Mr. Ross's tax return before I could really feel sorry for him, though.  I think there's some additional info being withheld. 

As an aside, Elmer, I would strongly suggest there is something, not only criminal about theft by coercion, but highly immoral, as well.

Quote from: Shooterman on February 05, 2012, 05:13:21 AM
As an aside, Elmer, I would strongly suggest there is something, not only criminal about theft by coercion, but highly immoral, as well.

All taxes are collected by coercion. There is no other way.  Even sales taxes. 

Quote from: elmerfudd on February 05, 2012, 04:42:31 PM
All taxes are collected by coercion. There is no other way.  Even sales taxes. 

Is that how the Founders envisioned it?

Quote from: Shooterman on February 05, 2012, 05:13:21 AM
As an aside, Elmer, I would strongly suggest there is something, not only criminal about theft by coercion, but highly immoral, as well.

But, but,..Shooter. Morals will be determined by The State. The taxes are going to a Higher Power and for many there is no 'higher power' than The State.  >:D >:D

Quote from: elmerfudd on February 04, 2012, 11:54:35 AM
Might that not do away with the forestry service and other government jobs, like welfare departments, and many government pensions, including VA, as well?  Or were you planning to spare those?

If they're Constitutional mandated, we can keep them - depending upon size.
You realize that the VA can be considered a form of military pay.
And the defense of the country is Constitutionally mandated. And the forestry Service should only concern themselves with stewardship of federal lands. Which raise the question of why the Federal government hasn't sold those lands. It's not as if they don't need the money.
It also amazes me how Leftists are always in favor of stopping things the government is SUPPOSED to do, in favor of things it has NO CONSTITUTIONAL MANDATE to do.

Quote from: elmerfudd on February 04, 2012, 11:54:35 AM
Might that not do away with the forestry service and other government jobs, like welfare departments, and many government pensions, including VA, as well?  Or were you planning to spare those?

I love it when lefties use veterans as human shields to protect their piles of government pork.

Quote from: elmerfudd on February 05, 2012, 04:42:31 PM
All taxes are collected by coercion. There is no other way.  Even sales taxes. 

Just like the lefties like it.

Just a little thought. Giving away what other people have earned isn't generosity. It's something else. ;)

Quote from: Shooterman on February 05, 2012, 06:16:18 PM
Is that how the Founders envisioned it?

Yes, unless they were idiots, and I don't think they were.  Even tariffs are collected by coercion.  (Anti-smuggling enforcement, for example.

You're not some greenhorn that thinks any tax just flows into the treasury absent some penalty for non-compliance, are you?

Quote from: Shooterman on February 04, 2012, 02:13:20 PM
I do know it was a simple retort to your idiocy, Elmer, but it had nothing to do with Solar. Here is how this works, Elmer. You post to an open forum; your comments, as inane as they are, is open to comment by any and all, without, at least to my knowledge, having to get your approval to do so. Can't handle it, don't post.

Are you aware of who, exactly, Farmer Bunce, was, or are you just being a shit for shits sake?

If you don't think being a shit for shit's sake is part and parcel of conservatard fora, just read the posts.  Including yours.

Quote from: elmerfudd on February 06, 2012, 10:36:03 AM
Yes, unless they were idiots, and I don't think they were.  Even tariffs are collected by coercion.  (Anti-smuggling enforcement, for example.

You're not some greenhorn that thinks any tax just flows into the treasury absent some penalty for non-compliance, are you?

I offer for your edification, Elmer. http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/index.php?topic=5507.0

Quote from: elmerfudd on February 06, 2012, 10:40:35 AM
If you don't think being a shit for shit's sake is part and parcel of conservatard fora, just read the posts.  Including yours.

I would suggest, as nice a side step as that was, you decided to completely ignore the question, so, in the interest of your enlightening the fora, I shall ask again. Do you know who Farmer Bunce of Davy Crockett lore was?

Quote from: Shooterman on February 06, 2012, 10:46:00 AM
I offer for your edification, Elmer. http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/index.php?topic=5507.0

Very edifying, completely off topic, conservatard propaganda.

Quote from: elmerfudd on February 06, 2012, 10:52:37 AM
Very edifying, completely off topic, conservatard propaganda.

Fess up now. Is this KFed?

Quote from: Shooterman on February 06, 2012, 11:31:08 AM
Fess up now. Is this KFed?

Nah, Elmer can actually write a passable sentence.

Quote from: Harry on February 06, 2012, 11:38:57 AM

Nah, Elmer can actually write a passable sentence.

He seems to be struggling. ;D