Quote from: Possum on November 04, 2022, 08:32:20 AMAnd looking at what the democrat party has become, AOC, Biden, Harris, Warren, Sanders. the list goes on, it would be fair to say they are too stupid to see past their meeting rooms.

Too True! That's why I coined the term Bubble Dwellers. They have no clue what the rest of the world thinks of them.
Their media lied and claimed they and their Marxist ideas were popular, when in fact it was the complete opposite.
The closer we get to midterms, the more I see other Dims coming out warning of the Red Wave.    

Quote from: Possum on November 02, 2022, 02:40:27 PMHad a discussion, ok, not really a discussion more like a butt in, with a couple of liberals a while back about the democrats being dead, ( I washed my hands real good afterward) well not dead but very weak now. Their talk centered around Obama, did he lengthen or shorten the life of the party. I told them Obama was such a do nothing he really had no effect on their party living or dying, the party started dying with LBJ, and it was the dnc that allowed the base to shift so far to the left that killed their party. Their candidates for president or anything else did not think for themselves, they followed what the media and the dnc told them to do. Their base sat on their butt and watched their party get taken away. WELL, I won't be invited back.

Fun fact -- The last time the Dims won a majority of white males in a presidential election was 1964!

Quote from: je_freedom on November 04, 2022, 06:20:35 PMFun fact -- The last time the Dims won a majority of white males in a presidential election was 1964!

     
Yep, and the Dims distance themselves from JFK's accomplishments. Go Figure...

Quote from: Solar on November 03, 2022, 04:53:39 AMMy generation. Growing up in the 50s and 60s, politics was boring, few if any discussed it.

That's something I've been thinking about.
When my parents decided they were ready to start a family,
society was nice and stable.  It was the '50s.

Then, when I got to be old enough to
start paying attention to what's going on in society,
the news was filled with
race riots, draft dodgers, hippies, LSD, Woodstock, etc.

And my parents' generation all said very loudly - WTF?!?!?!!

And even in that environment, politics was hardly even mentioned in school.
Even in that environment, the schools had not yet been politicized.

Today, the schools are HYPER politicized!
Several teenagers I know, including some real slackers,
are disgusted with the politicization!

"Why should I attend school?  They don't teach anything! 
They just spend the whole day bashing Trump!"

It looks to me like the Dims have written off today's generation of voters.
They appear to be completely committed to aggressively brainwashing the youth,
and promoting the agenda that they (the Dims) really want,
and that they are programming the youth to blindly support.

It also appears that the Dims have fallen into the trap of
believing their own propaganda.  They've brainwashed themselves.
They've come to believe their own lies so completely that
some of them have forgotten that there's even anyone left that they need to lie to!

We who live in the real world are concerned about
food prices, fuel prices, crime, street drugs easily passing across the border,
and the reins being taken off of all the worst demons on the world stage.

While the Dims focus ENTIRELY on turning boys into girls and girls into boys,
and exterminating any babies who manage to be born in spite of that confusion.
That, and inciting race war, class war, and any other kind of hatred they can incite.

The Dims' overall strategy appears to be,
destroy as much as they can, as fast as they can.
Destroy the food supply, the distribution system,
the economy, public safety, and everyone's minds and sanity.
Destroy!  Destroy!  Destroy!

Sounds like the Cloward and Piven strategy --
the two professors at Columbia U. who published a paper laying out that strategy.
"People won't accept our "solutions" as long as they have a functioning society.
We have to overload the system with unbearable burdens.
Collapse the system.  THEN we can offer our "solutions." "

The left's strategy is GLOBAL!
They are pushing this strategy WORLDWIDE!
"Cause as much death and destruction and war and disease
and pain and suffering as we can!
Make the WHOLE WORLD completely unlivable!
THEN we can appear as saviors when we impose our
global totalitarian dictatorship -- The Great Reset!"

Quote from: je_freedom on November 04, 2022, 07:20:29 PMThat's something I've been thinking about.
When my parents decided they were ready to start a family,
society was nice and stable.  It was the '50s.

 

Don't forget it may have been real nice in the fifties, but your parents and grandparents had just gone thru a world war that followed a depression. They knew what hard times were.

Quote from: je_freedom on November 04, 2022, 07:20:29 PMThat's something I've been thinking about.
When my parents decided they were ready to start a family,
society was nice and stable.  It was the '50s.

Then, when I got to be old enough to
start paying attention to what's going on in society,
the news was filled with
race riots, draft dodgers, hippies, LSD, Woodstock, etc.

And my parents' generation all said very loudly - WTF?!?!?!!

And even in that environment, politics was hardly even mentioned in school.
Even in that environment, the schools had not yet been politicized.

Today, the schools are HYPER politicized!
Several teenagers I know, including some real slackers,
are disgusted with the politicization!

"Why should I attend school?  They don't teach anything! 
They just spend the whole day bashing Trump!"

It looks to me like the Dims have written off today's generation of voters.
They appear to be completely committed to aggressively brainwashing the youth,
and promoting the agenda that they (the Dims) really want,
and that they are programming the youth to blindly support.

It also appears that the Dims have fallen into the trap of
believing their own propaganda.  They've brainwashed themselves.
They've come to believe their own lies so completely that
some of them have forgotten that there's even anyone left that they need to lie to!

We who live in the real world are concerned about
food prices, fuel prices, crime, street drugs easily passing across the border,
and the reins being taken off of all the worst demons on the world stage.

While the Dims focus ENTIRELY on turning boys into girls and girls into boys,
and exterminating any babies who manage to be born in spite of that confusion.
That, and inciting race war, class war, and any other kind of hatred they can incite.

The Dims' overall strategy appears to be,
destroy as much as they can, as fast as they can.
Destroy the food supply, the distribution system,
the economy, public safety, and everyone's minds and sanity.
Destroy!  Destroy!  Destroy!

Sounds like the Cloward and Piven strategy --
the two professors at Columbia U. who published a paper laying out that strategy.
"People won't accept our "solutions" as long as they have a functioning society.
We have to overload the system with unbearable burdens.
Collapse the system.  THEN we can offer our "solutions." "

The left's strategy is GLOBAL!
They are pushing this strategy WORLDWIDE!
"Cause as much death and destruction and war and disease
and pain and suffering as we can!
Make the WHOLE WORLD completely unlivable!
THEN we can appear as saviors when we impose our
global totalitarian dictatorship -- The Great Reset!"

Exactly JE!
Remember a time when nothing was political outside of DC? Where our Representatives all agreed that protecting the Republic was all that mattered?
A change took place in the early 40s through the 60s where welfare became a tool of politicians. I believe that was the very first crack in the wall, where people looked to the Fed as being all powerful over the State.

Our Republic was soon referred to as a democracy and suddenly the mob had a voice, a small mob indeed, but a vocal one at that.
It wouldn't be long before the State had its hand out for Federal funds over road work/parks etc.

One only has to look back to the 40s to see our Govt was stealing power from the states. I really can't blame that generation, a generation more focused on their own lives, while counting on those they elected to do the right thing.

Quote from: Solar on November 05, 2022, 06:02:44 AMExactly JE!
Remember a time when nothing was political outside of DC? Where our Representatives all agreed that protecting the Republic was all that mattered?
A change took place in the early 40s through the 60s where welfare became a tool of politicians. I believe that was the very first crack in the wall, where people looked to the Fed as being all powerful over the State.

Our Republic was soon referred to as a democracy and suddenly the mob had a voice, a small mob indeed, but a vocal one at that.
It wouldn't be long before the State had its hand out for Federal funds over road work/parks etc.

One only has to look back to the 40s to see our Govt was stealing power from the states. I really can't blame that generation, a generation more focused on their own lives, while counting on those they elected to do the right thing.

Another result of having an IRS.      

Quote from: Possum on November 05, 2022, 06:13:12 AMAnother result of having an IRS.      

Yep, and a Federal Reserve, their personal piggy bank. Why are we even paying taxes? They print more than they take in!

Quote from: Solar on November 05, 2022, 06:15:51 AMYep, and a Federal Reserve, their personal piggy bank. Why are we even paying taxes? They print more than they take in!

I have asked that question to myself for years. Still have not come up with an answer except it is about control. Imagine, taxes could be cut in half and not change the national picture one bit.

Quote from: Possum on November 05, 2022, 06:18:55 AMI have asked that question to myself for years. Still have not come up with an answer except it is about control. Imagine, taxes could be cut in half and not change the national picture one bit.

I agree! It's about  enslaving a workforce. Your Right to exist is only guaranteed if you submit all of your income to taxation.
We are stuck in a meat grinder in search of more trinkets and distractions.

People thought I was nuts for bailing on society decades ago.     

Quote from: Possum on November 05, 2022, 06:18:55 AMI have asked that question to myself for years. Still have not come up with an answer except it is about control. Imagine, taxes could be cut in half and not change the national picture one bit.

DemoRATS think of nothing but CONTROL !!! They control in the same manner as they did on their slave plantations years ago . Free food , housing , healthcare ,and education , making sure 60 plus % of the Nation is collecting from the WORKING taxpayers .              

Quote from: Possum on November 01, 2022, 07:16:36 AM  Want proof, look at all the corruption between some politicians and just a few corporations. Where is the outcry? Sometimes the surest sign there is corruption is seeing who is keeping quite about it. Hunter has nothing to worry about.

Ive long said that the very notion of an LLC is socialistic and anti competition.

Capitalism is about risk reward. Well another word for risk is liability and LLCs are Limited Liability Corporations. So the point is, how can competition work when you limit the risk?

Quote from: T Hunt on November 05, 2022, 11:34:26 AMIve long said that the very notion of an LLC is socialistic and anti competition.

Capitalism is about risk reward. Well another word for risk is liability and LLCs are Limited Liability Corporations. So the point is, how can competition work when you limit the risk?

Doesn't facebook, google, etc fall into this?

Quote from: Possum on November 05, 2022, 11:36:26 AMDoesn't facebook, google, etc fall into this?

I think they started in the 80s or 90s and yes most of the major companies fall into this. I see LLCs as a backdoor for crony capitalism.

In the end at a LLC no one is fully responsible for the corporations actions or losses. Thats the point, so these people can invest without the risk of losing everything. At a mom and pop shop, if they dont pay the company bills then they can even loss their personal boat or car or whatever.
Not so with an LLC. There the big shots are protected from liability by the law. Thus they will choose strategies which will make a quick buck in the short run but which can bankrupt the company in future, assuming of course they arent too big to fail and get a govt handout.

Quote from: T Hunt on November 05, 2022, 11:34:26 AMIve long said that the very notion of an LLC is socialistic and anti competition.

Capitalism is about risk reward. Well another word for risk is liability and LLCs are Limited Liability Corporations. So the point is, how can competition work when you limit the risk?

Yep, and an LLC also allows them to not be liable for any tax theft they pulled during their time.