Meme discussion thread....

Started by ZenMode, June 29, 2023, 09:37:42 AM

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ZenMode

Rather than start a new thread for every topic brought covered in Memes, I figured it would be easier to have a "catch-all" thread.

So.... who the f**K is Rich Baris and why should I care/trust anything he Tweets?

"If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide that proves they should value evidence."

Solar

Baris is one of the most accurate pollsters out there.
The real question is, can you back up the link? You did post it, after all. :biggrin:
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Possum

Quote from: ZenMode on June 29, 2023, 09:37:42 AMRather than start a new thread for every topic brought covered in Memes, I figured it would be easier to have a "catch-all" thread.

So.... who the f**K is Rich Baris and why should I care/trust anything he Tweets?


Have you ever thought about doing your own research? After all these are memes, while there is a bit of truth in most of them, many of them hit the subject right on the money, they are not fact checked. Stop acting like a kid and learn somethings on your own.

taxed

Quote from: ZenMode on June 29, 2023, 09:37:42 AMRather than start a new thread for every topic brought covered in Memes, I figured it would be easier to have a "catch-all" thread.

So.... who the f**K is Rich Baris and why should I care/trust anything he Tweets?



He does a show called "Inside the Numbers", and with Robert Barnes called "What are the Odds?".  I've learned more about how polling works and that industry in general from him than I have my life of following politics.
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ZenMode

The meme doesn't provide EO numbers.  I was able to find one of Trump's OE's regarding trafficking - EO 13903

This link shows all of the EO's the Biden rescinded and none of them was 13903.

I'm not sure what the second one was, but nothing on the list that Biden rescinded seems to be anything related to trafficking.

An internet meme lied.  Shocking.

"If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide that proves they should value evidence."

Possum

Quote from: ZenMode on July 12, 2023, 02:00:01 PMThe meme doesn't provide EO numbers.  I was able to find one of Trump's OE's regarding trafficking - EO 13903

This link shows all of the EO's the Biden rescinded and none of them was 13903.

I'm not sure what the second one was, but nothing on the list that Biden rescinded seems to be anything related to trafficking.

An internet meme lied.  Shocking.


https://www.stardem.com/news/national/biden-pressed-to-reverse-ending-trump-program-aimed-at-arresting-deporting-undocumented-sex-offenders/article_177d6da1-0780-52ea-8c83-72462c4125cd.html

QuoteA coalition of Republican attorneys general are upset with President Joe Biden over his administration canceling a Trump administration program that looked to arrest and deport convicted sex offenders who are illegally in the U.S.

Quote"Our letter urges President Biden to reverse his cancellation of Operation Talon which played a critical role in combating human trafficking and protecting innocent lives in America," said Arkansas Attorney General Leslie Rutledge.

Took me less than 30 seconds to find that. How come you can never find anything but liberal talking points?

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ZenMode

Quote from: Possum on July 12, 2023, 02:11:09 PMhttps://www.stardem.com/news/national/biden-pressed-to-reverse-ending-trump-program-aimed-at-arresting-deporting-undocumented-sex-offenders/article_177d6da1-0780-52ea-8c83-72462c4125cd.html

Took me less than 30 seconds to find that. How come you can never find anything but liberal talking points?
Operation Talon isn't an Executive Order, as the meme references.  It was put in place by Trump as part of an existing DHS initiative (SOAR) to find and deport illegal sex offenders.

So, the meme, until proven otherwise, is a lie on one verified EO claim with the second unknown.
"If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide that proves they should value evidence."

Possum

Quote from: ZenMode on July 12, 2023, 03:02:43 PMOperation Talon isn't an Executive Order, as the meme references.  It was put in place by Trump as part of an existing DHS initiative (SOAR) to find and deport illegal sex offenders.

So, the meme, until proven otherwise, is a lie on one verified EO claim with the second unknown.
Heart of the matter, Biden cancelled a program that Trump used to help catch and stop child trafficking. Stop acting like such a dumbass.

ZenMode

Quote from: Possum on July 12, 2023, 03:17:37 PMHeart of the matter, Biden cancelled a program that Trump used to help catch and stop child trafficking. Stop acting like such a dumbass.
maybe...maybe not

A month into U.S. President Joe Biden's administration, posts circulated on social media claiming that the new president had canceled Operation Talon, a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) initiative aimed at deporting sex offenders living in the United States illegally. The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) told Reuters the operation was not canceled but postponed, and the logistical decision to do so was made by ICE operators, not the president.

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-operation-talon-idUSKCN2AT3KS
"If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide that proves they should value evidence."

Possum

Quote from: ZenMode on July 12, 2023, 04:41:15 PMmaybe...maybe not

A month into U.S. President Joe Biden's administration, posts circulated on social media claiming that the new president had canceled Operation Talon, a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) initiative aimed at deporting sex offenders living in the United States illegally. The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) told Reuters the operation was not canceled but postponed, and the logistical decision to do so was made by ICE operators, not the president.

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-operation-talon-idUSKCN2AT3KS
Sorry, wrong again. The article states Biden cancelled the program, all the ruckus was from governors, DOJ, law enforcement, who were writing to get Biden to reinstate the program.

QuoteThe letter to the White House closes with, "We urge you to immediately reinstate Operation Talon, adopt an aggressive enforcement policy against illegal aliens convicted of sex crimes, and send a message to sexual predators that they are not welcome in the United States of America."



Imagine, Reuters being wrong about something. Again.

ZenMode

Quote from: Possum on July 12, 2023, 04:51:50 PMSorry, wrong again. The article states Biden cancelled the program, all the ruckus was from governors, DOJ, law enforcement, who were writing to get Biden to reinstate the program.



Imagine, Reuters being wrong about something. Again.
there's no way to know for sure what the actual story is. If the governor's thought Biden cancel the program, it makes sense that they would write letters. Maybe Biden didn't cancel the program and it was just postponed by DHS. Either way, the meme was wrong.
"If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide that proves they should value evidence."

Possum

Quote from: ZenMode on July 12, 2023, 05:13:11 PMthere's no way to know for sure what the actual story is. If the governor's thought Biden cancel the program, it makes sense that they would write letters. Maybe Biden didn't cancel the program and it was just postponed by DHS. Either way, the meme was wrong.
Right, everyone else was wrong. The governors, the law enforcement, the DOJ's all of them were wrong. Damn kid, the program was cancelled! Calling it a "postponement" saying it was "reinstated" is just covering up for what Biden did. If you pay any attention to this administration you would know what a cover your ass looks like.
Do you even read what you post before sending?

ZenMode

Quote from: Possum on July 12, 2023, 05:56:16 PMRight, everyone else was wrong. The governors, the law enforcement, the DOJ's all of them were wrong. Damn kid, the program was cancelled! Calling it a "postponement" saying it was "reinstated" is just covering up for what Biden did. If you pay any attention to this administration you would know what a cover your ass looks like.
Do you even read what you post before sending?
Whether or not it was cancelled or postponed is irrelevant. The meme was lying.
"If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide that proves they should value evidence."

taxed

Quote from: ZenMode on July 12, 2023, 06:10:25 PMWhether or not it was cancelled or postponed is irrelevant. The meme was lying.

Did the program exist before?
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