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General Category => Political Discussion and Debate => Topic started by: rmacphie on December 17, 2012, 08:30:24 AM

Title: Marijuana: The Gateway to Nothingness
Post by: rmacphie on December 17, 2012, 08:30:24 AM
See Solar!!!!
Title: Re: Marijuana: The Gateway to Nothingness
Post by: GC on December 17, 2012, 08:39:55 AM
The topic of Marijuana has more dimension than meets the eye. There is a personal argument vs. a political one. There's also of course a health argument. There's even a strong violence argument since it involves the cartels.

I think it has become such an important topic because it also involves the federal government undermining the states' decisions of legalization (mostly when it has been strictly for medicinal use in those states that allowed it).
Title: Re: Marijuana: The Gateway to Nothingness
Post by: mdgiles on December 18, 2012, 06:49:29 AM
Quote from: GC on December 17, 2012, 08:39:55 AM
The topic of Marijuana has more dimension than meets the eye. There is a personal argument vs. a political one. There's also of course a health argument. There's even a strong violence argument since it involves the cartels.

I think it has become such an important topic because it also involves the federal government undermining the states' decisions of legalization (mostly when it has been strictly for medicinal use in those states that allowed it).
The base of the cartels money and power is marijuana's illegality. Just as it was during Prohibition, the base of the gangster's power was the profit in alcohol due to it's illegality. Arguments against marijuana always seemed to be based on the moral view of the arguer, or on effects that are the result of it being illegal (murder in Mexico).
Title: Re: Marijuana: The Gateway to Nothingness
Post by: Darth Fife on December 18, 2012, 05:56:12 PM
Quote from: mdgiles on December 18, 2012, 06:49:29 AM
The base of the cartels money and power is marijuana's illegality. Just as it was during Prohibition, the base of the gangster's power was the profit in alcohol due to it's illegality. Arguments against marijuana always seemed to be based on the moral view of the arguer, or on effects that are the result of it being illegal (murder in Mexico).

Prohibition led to the the rise of many of the U.S's most powerful crime families!

The Gambino family... The Genovese family... The Lucheese family... The Bonanno family...

The Kennedys... :rolleyes:

Title: Re: Marijuana: The Gateway to Nothingness
Post by: mdgiles on December 19, 2012, 07:41:36 AM
Quote from: Darth Fife on December 18, 2012, 05:56:12 PM
Prohibition led to the the rise of many of the U.S's most powerful crime families!

The Gambino family... The Genovese family... The Lucheese family... The Bonanno family...

The Kennedys... :rolleyes:
And they became so powerful that the end of Prohibition allowed them to branch out into other fields - union corruption, extortion, gambling, prostitution and politics. Oh wait, am I repeating myself?
Title: Re: Marijuana: The Gateway to Nothingness
Post by: Yawn on December 19, 2012, 06:02:49 PM
Yes. Marijuana is a gateway to a nothing life.  The life of a perpetual loser. 
Title: Re: Marijuana: The Gateway to Nothingness
Post by: BILLY Defiant on December 19, 2012, 07:01:52 PM
Quote from: Darth Fife on December 18, 2012, 05:56:12 PM
Prohibition led to the the rise of many of the U.S's most powerful crime families!

The Gambino family... The Genovese family... The Lucheese family... The Bonanno family...

The Kennedys... :rolleyes:

Interesting to note...those crime syndicates were well in place long before there was Prohibition and some long before there was an America.

When Prohibition ended they didn't all go away either.

Title: Re: Marijuana: The Gateway to Nothingness
Post by: TowardLiberty on December 20, 2012, 06:52:44 AM
Quote from: BILLY Defiant on December 19, 2012, 07:01:52 PM
Interesting to note...those crime syndicates were well in place long before there was Prohibition and some long before there was an America.

When Prohibition ended they didn't all go away either.

But we can all agree that prohibition greatly increased their power, wealth, size and scope.

Title: Re: Marijuana: The Gateway to Nothingness
Post by: njdudeabides on December 20, 2012, 11:48:21 AM
There is absolutely no justification for pot being illegal; it's bad for your short term memory, but cigarettes cause cancer and alcohol causes liver failure. It's a personal choice, and it should be legal.

The reason it is not legal is because;
1) the government at one time believed making it illegal would stop foreigners from coming to America
2) Religious zealots dislike it