Quote from: hfishjr81 on July 08, 2012, 04:41:40 PM


Costly Hail Marys have been thrown by the Dems, and Conservative Republicans, alike. 

http://articles.cnn.com/2008-09-24/politics/bush.bailout_1_bailout-proposal-rescue-plan-mortgage-related-securities?_s=PM:POLITICS


Maybe it is "before death", don't know, but it has seemed a lot like rats gorging themselves right before time to jump ship.

Conservatives have done no such thing.  Try again.

Quote from: taxed on July 08, 2012, 07:17:58 PM
Conservatives have done no such thing.  Try again.

Are You saying Bush and Co aren't conservatives?   

Quote from: hfishjr81 on July 08, 2012, 08:09:37 PM

Are You saying Bush and Co aren't conservatives?

Correct!

Were the people that voted for Bush and Co Conservative?

Quote from: hfishjr81 on July 08, 2012, 08:58:11 PM
Were the people that voted for Bush and Co Conservative?

Does that make him conservative?

No, but He did run as a conservative didn't He? And the conservatives that voted for Him did elect him to office for a second term, didn't they?   

Quote from: hfishjr81 on July 08, 2012, 10:34:24 PM
No, but He did run as a conservative didn't He? And the conservatives that voted for Him did elect him to office for a second term, didn't they?

Yes, he had promise of being more conservative than he ended up.

Ok, so based on that then

Quote from: taxed on July 08, 2012, 07:17:58 PM
Conservatives have done no such thing.  Try again.

that's ^ not really true.



Either way though, He is/was dishonest, not unlike Obama and the rest of the people that We are duped into fighting over. 

Quote from: hfishjr81 on July 08, 2012, 10:48:52 PM
Ok, so based on that then



that's ^ not true.

It is true.

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Either way though, He is/was dishonest, not unlike Obama and the rest of the people We're duped into fighting over.

No.  Liberals are destroying the country.  That isn't an argument to fight over.

Liberals and Conservatives have destroyed this Country. That is the sad reality.  Bush started the fat cat bailouts and Obama resumed them.

Is Bush a Liberal? 


Do You really believe that Liberals are Our biggest problem?

Quote from: hfishjr81 on July 08, 2012, 10:56:26 PM
Liberals and Conservatives have destroyed this Country. That is the sad reality. 

Wrong.  Conservatives are saving the country.  Liberals are intent on destroying it.  It is simple as that.

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Bush started the fat cat bailouts and Obama resumed them.

Bush didn't start bailouts.

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Is Bush a Liberal? 

He was too liberal.

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Do You really believe that Liberals are Our biggest problem?

Yes.

Quote from: taxed on July 08, 2012, 11:02:22 PM
Wrong.  Conservatives are saving the country.  Liberals are intent on destroying it.  It is simple as that.

I disagree. 

Quote from: taxed on July 08, 2012, 11:02:22 PM
Bush didn't start bailouts.

You should re-look at the facts.

http://www.drudge.com/archive/153261/bush-auto-bailouts-id-do-again
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20013452-503544.html
http://bottomline.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/07/10342178-bush-on-auto-bailouts-id-do-it-again?lite

Quote from: taxed on July 08, 2012, 11:02:22 PM
He was too liberal.

Quote from: taxed on July 08, 2012, 11:02:22 PM
Yes.

I don't see how anyone can look past greed as being Our biggest issue and simply point straight to a certain group of People as being Our largest problem. 

Placing blame on one another like that is what staunch party folk do to one another and that, sadly, keeps Corporate America capable of destroying us from the inside out.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/22/us/politics/22scotus.html?pagewanted=all

Quote from: hfishjr81 on July 08, 2012, 11:16:29 PM
I disagree. 

You are young and uninformed.  I am an adult productive member of society who creates jobs.

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You should re-look at the facts.

http://www.drudge.com/archive/153261/bush-auto-bailouts-id-do-again
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20013452-503544.html
http://bottomline.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/07/10342178-bush-on-auto-bailouts-id-do-it-again?lite

Bush wasn't the first to bail out a company.  Try again.

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He enabled the Democrats after they took over in 2006. 

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I don't see how anyone can look past greed as being Our biggest issue and simply point straight to a certain group of People as being Our largest problem. 

The free market capitalism keeps greed in check.  Conservatives are for free markets.  Liberals are for government intervention, which is pure greed and fuels corruption.  Liberals are for big government.

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Placing blame on one another like that is what staunch party folk do to one another and that, sadly, keeps Corporate America capable of destroying us from the inside out.

Corporate America provides goods, services, and jobs.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/22/us/politics/22scotus.html?pagewanted=all

If corporations didn't spend on campaign donations and only people were able to, unions weren't allowed to continue their collusion, non-felons and US citizens only were allowed to vote, then you wouldn't see a liberal for a thousand years.

Quote from: taxed on July 08, 2012, 11:37:17 PM
You are young and uninformed.  I am an adult productive member of society who creates jobs.

Than We have that in common for I too am a productive member of society, feeling far less young by the day. 
And I provided links/evidence, You should read up on reality a bit.

Quote from: taxed on July 08, 2012, 11:37:17 PM
Bush wasn't the first to bail out a company.  Try again.
He enabled the Democrats after they took over in 2006. 

http://bottomline.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/07/10342178-bush-on-auto-bailouts-id-do-it-again?lite

"I'd do it again," proclaimed Bush, speaking to the annual convention of the National Automobile Dealers Association.
The bailout, which ultimately totaled $85 billion, was originally begun during the waning days of the Bush administration. With a specific rescue effort rejected by Congress, the former Commander-in-Chief decided to tap into a separate, $700 billion fund Capitol Hill did approve for the bailout of Wall Street and the banking industry.
"Sometimes circumstances get in the way of philosophy," said the ex-president

Quote from: taxed on July 08, 2012, 11:37:17 PM
The free market capitalism keeps greed in check.  Conservatives are for free markets.  Liberals are for government intervention, which is pure greed and fuels corruption.  Liberals are for big government.

Anytime an 'allocation of capital is combined with self-management' greed is present. From the Liberal big government to the conservative free market. The problem is the peoples perversion of an idea in search for self interest.

Quote from: taxed on July 08, 2012, 11:37:17 PM
Corporate America provides goods, services, and jobs.

And lots of damage that needs to be reigned in, or , kept in check.

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/category/gulf-coast-oil-spill/

Quote from: taxed on July 08, 2012, 11:37:17 PM
If corporations didn't spend on campaign donations and only people were able to, unions weren't allowed to continue their collusion, non-felons and US citizens only were allowed to vote, then you wouldn't see a liberal for a thousand years.

Giving corporations unlimited ability on top of their already unlimited ability just takes more, in the long run, from the hard working Men and Women of this Country. Yes, big business creates jobs, but whats that really matter when they're creating it with money they've stolen, or "been given", from us?

Quote from: hfishjr81 on July 08, 2012, 11:16:29 PM
I disagree. 


You should re-look at the facts.

http://www.drudge.com/archive/153261/bush-auto-bailouts-id-do-again
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20013452-503544.html
http://bottomline.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/07/10342178-bush-on-auto-bailouts-id-do-it-again?lite



I don't see how anyone can look past greed as being Our biggest issue and simply point straight to a certain group of People as being Our largest problem. 

Placing blame on one another like that is what staunch party folk do to one another and that, sadly, keeps Corporate America capable of destroying us from the inside out.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/22/us/politics/22scotus.html?pagewanted=all

Why are you talking about Bush? He's history.

Yep. He made mistakes and he spent way too much money. Case closed.

What Bush did not do, was spend a lifetime aligning himself with radical Marxists. I'd site proof, but I have to go to work today, and I don't have time to list all of Obama's radical ties.