One source close to Walker told CNN that the governor has no timeline for announcing a presidential bid but will be forming "some kind of entity in the coming weeks to lend itself as a vehicle" -- likely a leadership PAC -- before moving forward with a full-blown campaign. Walker and his aides have said that he will not announce his intentions until after the Wisconsin legislative session concludes this year.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/07/politics/walker-builds-2016-team-with-likely-campaign-manager/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/07/politics/walker-builds-2016-team-with-likely-campaign-manager/index.html)
Wow the field continues to widen. And the Democrats have a plagiarist (Biden) a liar that dresses up as an Indian (Warren) and her Thighness who made scandal chic in the 1990's (Clinton).
Quote from: The Boo Man... on January 07, 2015, 08:42:21 PM
Wow the field continues to widen. And the Democrats have a plagiarist (Biden) a liar that dresses up as an Indian (Warren) and her Thighness who made scandal chic in the 1990's (Clinton).
You forgot about the hip, wiley progressive from California...
Quote from: taxed on January 07, 2015, 08:45:39 PM
You forgot about the hip, wiley progressive from California...
Will they let him out of the home to run?
How would this effect Cruz, and does anyone see a teaming up between the two?
Personally, my dream ticket would be a Cruz/West ticket.
Quote from: Solar on January 07, 2015, 07:47:38 PM
One source close to Walker told CNN that the governor has no timeline for announcing a presidential bid but will be forming "some kind of entity in the coming weeks to lend itself as a vehicle" -- likely a leadership PAC -- before moving forward with a full-blown campaign. Walker and his aides have said that he will not announce his intentions until after the Wisconsin legislative session concludes this year.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/07/politics/walker-builds-2016-team-with-likely-campaign-manager/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/07/politics/walker-builds-2016-team-with-likely-campaign-manager/index.html)
Now, there's a guy that perhaps we can come together and support. He has done more than talk about doing conservative things; He's put himself on the line and in the face of every kind of crazy left wing opposition (including death threats) he has "done the RIGHT thing!".
Quote from: wally on January 08, 2015, 05:16:35 AM
Now, there's a guy that perhaps we can come together and support. He has done more than talk about doing conservative things; He's put himself on the line and in the face of every kind of crazy left wing opposition (including death threats) he has "done the RIGHT thing!".
I agree. He has been my favorite for some time. He is a proven entity who has shown courage and the ability to win against the leftists and unions. He is a fiscal conservative and not part of the Washington establishment.
Quote from: supsalemgr on January 08, 2015, 05:39:54 AM
I agree. He has been my favorite for some time. He is a proven entity who has shown courage and the ability to win against the leftists and unions. He is a fiscal conservative and not part of the Washington establishment.
AND he certainly has demonstrate that he can both take a punch and counterpunch with the old rope a dope! :lol:
Quote from: Solar on January 08, 2015, 04:59:54 AM
How would this effect Cruz, and does anyone see a teaming up between the two?
Personally, my dream ticket would be a Cruz/West ticket.
They've got to form one TP / conservative team, one prez-VP ticket, a fully defined cabinet from the rest of the folks, and a strategy to create succession from within the team after 8 years of the first ticket. And dovetailed into a strategy for both houses and speaker / leaders.
That's the only way it works. Otherwise Jeb gets the nomination with 32% of the primary vote. And probably ends up with 32% in the election.
Wait! We can't have someone who has actually had to run something; that's just so old fashioned. We need another inside the beltway, Senatorial type.
Apparently Walker is serious about running. It will be interesting to see how the establishment treats him.
The unions will have a stroke and will bankrupt themselves opposing him.
Quote from: The Boo Man... on January 08, 2015, 09:06:44 AM
The unions will have a stroke and will bankrupt themselves opposing him.
Walker has already done a good job of helping the unions empty their coffers.
Quote from: supsalemgr on January 08, 2015, 09:39:13 AM
Walker has already done a good job of helping the unions empty their coffers.
If they keep going they will have nothing to syphon off for themselves. :lol: Who am I kidding they will always have money for that.
Quote from: supsalemgr on January 08, 2015, 05:39:54 AM
I agree. He has been my favorite for some time. He is a proven entity who has shown courage and the ability to win against the leftists and unions. He is a fiscal conservative and not part of the Washington establishment.
I like him too but I'm not wanting a re-creation of Dallas in Wisconsin. He's already proven that he can make a target outta' himself. The left hates him just that bad, sad to say.
Quote from: keyboarder on January 08, 2015, 11:10:02 AM
I like him too but I'm not wanting a re-creation of Dallas in Wisconsin. He's already proven that he can make a target outta' himself. The left hates him just that bad, sad to say.
One of the reasons I like him. The left is scared to death of him. Watch for the attacks by the MSM to begin shortly. I hope the unions come out vocally against him as well as that will only benefit Walker.
Does anyone know what Walker's stance is on 'amnesty'?
From what I've been able to find out, it appears that he wants to make it 'easier' to become a U.S. citizen,......whatever THAT's supposed to mean. :rolleyes:
Quote from: MACMan on January 08, 2015, 01:06:14 PM
Does anyone know what Walker's stance is on 'amnesty'?
From what I've been able to find out, it appears that he wants to make it 'easier' to become a U.S. citizen,......whatever THAT's supposed to mean. :rolleyes:
He has stayed away from those type issues as governor of WI. We will see eventually.
Quote from: supsalemgr on January 08, 2015, 02:00:00 PM
He has stayed away from those type issues as governor of WI. We will see eventually.
I guess his open border problem is not as severe as Rick Perry's is down here. :lol:
Quote from: MACMan on January 08, 2015, 01:06:14 PM
Does anyone know what Walker's stance is on 'amnesty'?
From what I've been able to find out, it appears that he wants to make it 'easier' to become a U.S. citizen,......whatever THAT's supposed to mean. :rolleyes:
If it means; easier to apply, stand in line and enter the US legally..I'm ok with that!
Quote from: Solar on January 08, 2015, 04:59:54 AM
How would this effect Cruz, and does anyone see a teaming up between the two?
Personally, my dream ticket would be a Cruz/West ticket.
Cruz and West would be a damn good ticket, the more I think about it. If Walker's the eventual nominee he'll probably go
the obscure route, choosing some solidly conservative Congressperson that's not on anybody's radar.
One side note, and it may be an issue... The nomination will occur
way early. Either June 27-30, or July 18-21... It can either be a good thing or more teeter-tottery.
Quote from: kit saginaw on January 08, 2015, 03:08:06 PM
Cruz and West would be a damn good ticket, the more I think about it. If Walker's the eventual nominee he'll probably go the obscure route, choosing some solidly conservative Congressperson that's not on anybody's radar.
One side note, and it may be an issue... The nomination will occur way early. Either June 27-30, or July 18-21... It can either be a good thing or more teeter-tottery.
Yeah, by the time they got around to us here in Ca, it was already over. :cursing:
Quote from: Solar on January 08, 2015, 04:59:54 AM
How would this effect Cruz, and does anyone see a teaming up between the two?
Personally, my dream ticket would be a Cruz/West ticket.
I like Walker - a lot!
I'm not so crazy about Walker and Cruz as a ticket. We need Cruz in the Senate - there is definitely a leadership deficit there and we need all of the strong leadership types we can get in the Senate.
Call me crazy, but I like a Walker/Palin ticket!
Both are or have been governors with proven leadership ability. And both are not the least bit intimidated by the MSM or the Democrat attack machine.
We could do worse - a lot worse!
Another rino I won't vote for....Walker voiced support for Holder's sneak attack on the US Criminal justice system over bypassing the grand jury in favor of an ombudsman.
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on January 08, 2015, 05:11:24 PM
Another rino I won't vote for....Walker voiced support for Holder's sneak attack on the US Criminal justice system over bypassing the grand jury in favor of an ombudsman.
Can you link that? This could be devastating to his chances.
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on January 08, 2015, 05:11:24 PM
Another rino I won't vote for....Walker voiced support for Holder's sneak attack on the US Criminal justice system over bypassing the grand jury in favor of an ombudsman.
Um, what grand jury? What ombudsman? What sneak attack?
Quote from: Solar on January 08, 2015, 06:36:00 PM
Can you link that? This could be devastating to his chances.
http://www.jsonline.com/watchdog/watchdogreports/gov-scott-walker-expected-to-sign-police-custody-bill-b99253819z1-256342301.html (http://www.jsonline.com/watchdog/watchdogreports/gov-scott-walker-expected-to-sign-police-custody-bill-b99253819z1-256342301.html)
This is precisely the steps Holder needs to help establish his Ombudsmans override to local Grand Juries....OUTSIDE investigation means the feds.
This was done in April of last year and was recently it is being touted by the Feds as a model for "reform" of the Grand Jury system Re Furgueson and New York
The second article re-inforces that
http://guardianlv.com/2014/12/grand-jury-reform-necessary-to-regulate-law-enforcement/ (http://guardianlv.com/2014/12/grand-jury-reform-necessary-to-regulate-law-enforcement/)
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on January 09, 2015, 06:47:54 PM
http://www.jsonline.com/watchdog/watchdogreports/gov-scott-walker-expected-to-sign-police-custody-bill-b99253819z1-256342301.html (http://www.jsonline.com/watchdog/watchdogreports/gov-scott-walker-expected-to-sign-police-custody-bill-b99253819z1-256342301.html)
This is precisely the steps Holder needs to help establish his Ombudsmans override to local Grand Juries....OUTSIDE investigation means the feds.
This was done in April of last year and was recently it is being touted by the Feds as a model for "reform" of the Grand Jury system Re Furgueson and New York
The second article re-inforces that
http://guardianlv.com/2014/12/grand-jury-reform-necessary-to-regulate-law-enforcement/ (http://guardianlv.com/2014/12/grand-jury-reform-necessary-to-regulate-law-enforcement/)
QuoteThe new law mandates that at least two investigators from independent agencies outside the department must conduct reviews into such deaths and publish public reports if criminal charges are not filed
Read more at http://guardianlv.com/2014/12/grand-jury-reform-necessary-to-regulate-law-enforcement/#cETvFA3ob0W6zZsS.99 (http://guardianlv.com/2014/12/grand-jury-reform-necessary-to-regulate-law-enforcement/#cETvFA3ob0W6zZsS.99)
This seems reasonable to me! I don't see where it is given power to the fed but maybe the county sheriff or the state police. Here in Duval County Florida it has been standing practice for the State Police to investigate where there may be a conflict of interest. It looks like Walker made it mandatory to have inter dept. investigation be it City, County or State But from the article I don't see were It involves the Fed's Unless they are requested in! :popcorn: :popcorn:
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on January 09, 2015, 06:47:54 PM
http://www.jsonline.com/watchdog/watchdogreports/gov-scott-walker-expected-to-sign-police-custody-bill-b99253819z1-256342301.html (http://www.jsonline.com/watchdog/watchdogreports/gov-scott-walker-expected-to-sign-police-custody-bill-b99253819z1-256342301.html)
This is precisely the steps Holder needs to help establish his Ombudsmans override to local Grand Juries....OUTSIDE investigation means the feds.
This was done in April of last year and was recently it is being touted by the Feds as a model for "reform" of the Grand Jury system Re Furgueson and New York
The second article re-inforces that
http://guardianlv.com/2014/12/grand-jury-reform-necessary-to-regulate-law-enforcement/ (http://guardianlv.com/2014/12/grand-jury-reform-necessary-to-regulate-law-enforcement/)
I don't see how an outside investigation would usurp the powers of the DA in their use of a grand jury.
It would appear, that once the State investigation is complete, it is then turned over to the DA.
As to the NY article, those commies are full of shit in claiming Walker's Bill is in anyway the same, when they plan to take it to the next level and make it a Fed issue.
I could be wrong in reading it, but it doesn't appear to remove the grand jury, rather add a separate leg to the investigative process. As long as it stays State business, then I see no issue.
Did I read it correctly? I've had a long day and really need to hit the sack early, so I may have missed something.
Quote from: Solar on January 09, 2015, 07:32:51 PM
I don't see how an outside investigation would usurp the powers of the DA in their use of a grand jury.
It would appear, that once the State investigation is complete, it is then turned over to the DA.
As to the NY article, those commies are full of shit in claiming Walker's Bill is in anyway the same, when they plan to take it to the next level and make it a Fed issue.
I could be wrong in reading it, but it doesn't appear to remove the grand jury, rather add a separate leg to the investigative process. As long as it stays State business, then I see no issue.
Did I read it correctly? I've had a long day and really need to hit the sack early, so I may have missed something.
I read as you do. There is no mention of the feds and it is a state law so it stands to reason the additional investigation would be conducted by a state agency.
Quote from: supsalemgr on January 10, 2015, 05:13:03 AM
I read as you do. There is no mention of the feds and it is a state law so it stands to reason the additional investigation would be conducted by a state agency.
Then I wasn't totally brain dead? :biggrin:
I think I see Billies point though, and the NY article exemplifies it.
Walker opens the door and NY commies tout it as a good plan, yet incomplete and expand the hell out of it, creating the slippery slope.
But that in no way is Walkers fault. That's akin to claiming charity is the seed of taxation.
Sounds more like NY is looking for an excuse, so as not to be the first State giving up citizens liberties to the Fed.
Most states fight to retain sovereignty, but NY commies are more than willing to sacrifice liberty for what they consider the greater good.
They need to just give up Statehood and become a province like DC, and call it a day.
Quote from: Darth Fife on January 08, 2015, 04:06:03 PM
I like Walker - a lot!
I'm not so crazy about Walker and Cruz as a ticket. We need Cruz in the Senate - there is definitely a leadership deficit there and we need all of the strong leadership types we can get in the Senate.
Call me crazy, but I like a Walker/Palin ticket!
Both are or have been governors with proven leadership ability. And both are not the least bit intimidated by the MSM or the Democrat attack machine.
We could do worse - a lot worse!
or maybe... Walker - West! Obama has done so much to hurt race relations and our military, Alan West could really be helpful as a VP who could provide Leadership in both these areas!
Quote from: Solar on January 09, 2015, 07:32:51 PM
I don't see how an outside investigation would usurp the powers of the DA in their use of a grand jury.
It would appear, that once the State investigation is complete, it is then turned over to the DA.
As to the NY article, those commies are full of shit in claiming Walker's Bill is in anyway the same, when they plan to take it to the next level and make it a Fed issue.
I could be wrong in reading it, but it doesn't appear to remove the grand jury, rather add a separate leg to the investigative process. As long as it stays State business, then I see no issue.
Did I read it correctly? I've had a long day and really need to hit the sack early, so I may have missed something.
The problem is the bill is not specific enough, OUTSIDE AGency can mean anything or anybody, ESPECIALLY THE FEDS. AND There is no continuity of the investigation....is there to be a parallel investigation? By WHom...speaking from experience if you really want to Fk something up try and run a "parallel investigation"....especially BEFORE it goes to the grand jury.
This is precisely what Holder is trying to do...think about it....even if the case goes through internal affairs,(The headhunters) review by the office of the Chief, (Political appointee)then To the Prosecutor and CLEARS a GRAND JURY OF ONES PEERS then it has to go to an outside agency? Would they have the power to bring ti to a FEDERAL grand jury on Civil rights violation???? AS HOLDER WANTS IN ALL POLICE MINORITY CASES????
I've seen several news clips were various Leftist COngress specifically mentioned this Bill and how Walker...A Republican conservative" modeled it and supports it...blah blah blah.
Walker was told about this BEFORE he drafted the bill, He was warned about Holder and the lefts "Ombudsman" agenda
he did it anyway in his dislike for all things Public sector union.
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on January 10, 2015, 06:07:52 PM
The problem is the bill is not specific enough, OUTSIDE AGency can mean anything or anybody, ESPECIALLY THE FEDS. AND There is no continuity of the investigation....is there to be a parallel investigation? By WHom...speaking from experience if you really want to Fk something up try and run a "parallel investigation"....especially BEFORE it goes to the grand jury.
This is precisely what Holder is trying to do...think about it....even if the case goes through internal affairs,(The headhunters) review by the office of the Chief, (Political appointee)then To the Prosecutor and CLEARS a GRAND JURY OF ONES PEERS then it has to go to an outside agency? Would they have the power to bring ti to a FEDERAL grand jury on Civil rights violation???? AS HOLDER WANTS IN ALL POLICE MINORITY CASES????
I've seen several news clips were various Leftist COngress specifically mentioned this Bill and how Walker...A Republican conservative" modeled it and supports it...blah blah blah.
Walker was told about this BEFORE he drafted the bill, He was warned about Holder and the lefts "Ombudsman" agenda
he did it anyway in his dislike for all things Public sector union.
All great points. I'm just going to have to read the Bill in it's entirety, because if there is no provisions to eliminate the Feds involvement, then this is seriously oiling down the slippery slope.
Quote from: Solar on January 10, 2015, 07:23:25 PM
All great points. I'm just going to have to read the Bill in it's entirety, because if there is no provisions to eliminate the Feds involvement, then this is seriously oiling down the slippery slope.
Don't the Feds themselves have rules to were they have to be asked in? Requested? Wouldn't the state still have the authority to repeal this law if the feds abuse it? This is just making something out of nothing! :sad: :sad:
Quote from: redbeard on January 10, 2015, 08:12:20 PM
Don't the Feds themselves have rules to were they have to be asked in? Requested? Wouldn't the state still have the authority to repeal this law if the feds abuse it? This is just making something out of nothing! :sad: :sad:
True, unless the language of the Bill has an open invite, which is why I want to read the Bill.
It may be much ado about nothing, or a monstrous can O worms.
I still have more faith in Walker dotting his I's and crossing his T's, than leaving an open wound, allowing for usurpation the law.
Quote from: wally on January 10, 2015, 06:58:52 AM
or maybe... Walker - West! Obama has done so much to hurt race relations and our military, Alan West could really be helpful as a VP who could provide Leadership in both these areas!
I could go with that ticket too.
Based on my personal experience, I don't think your average military member really cares who is president - as long as it's not a Democrat!
:wink:
Quote from: Darth Fife on January 11, 2015, 10:58:16 AM
I could go with that ticket too.
Based on my personal experience, I don't think your average military member really cares who is president - as long as it's not a Democrat!
:wink:
Walker/West would be an interesting ticket. The lefties would go full bore trying to destroy West. If he moved the Black vote from 10% to 20% it would be a killer for democrats. He is also not afraid to take heat and give it. That fits perfectly with Walker's low key, but tough approach.
Quote from: supsalemgr on January 11, 2015, 11:38:34 AM
Walker/West would be an interesting ticket. The lefties would go full bore trying to destroy West. If he moved the Black vote from 10% to 20% it would be a killer for democrats. He is also not afraid to take heat and give it. That fits perfectly with Walker's low key, but tough approach.
Excellent point about West.. I think he'd be perfect for any position.
I'd like to see Cruz snag him for VP.
Quote from: supsalemgr on January 11, 2015, 11:38:34 AM
Walker/West would be an interesting ticket. The lefties would go full bore trying to destroy West. If he moved the Black vote from 10% to 20% it would be a killer for democrats. He is also not afraid to take heat and give it. That fits perfectly with Walker's low key, but tough approach.
Let's not forget that our president is not elected by a popular vote. He/she is elected by the Electoral College.
And increase of 10% in heavily Democrat districts will not make a dime's worth of difference at the end of the day.
Walker/Gowdy in 16
Quote from: Gator Monroe on January 11, 2015, 07:54:24 PM
Walker/Gowdy in 16
Oh good. A possible felon and a redneck. Just what we need.
Quote from: Captain Centrist on January 11, 2015, 08:41:08 PM
Oh good. A possible felon and a redneck. Just what we need.
Your raft is ready, Mr. Twain. -Besides, Tom needs to paint the fence-you're-sitting-on.
Quote from: Captain Centrist on January 11, 2015, 08:41:08 PM
Oh good. A possible felon and a redneck. Just what we need.
Possible felon?
You're not a Republican. You're not even a RINO. Only a Libtard talks like that.
And only a Libtard Troll would claim to be a "Centrist" and pretend to be a Republican.
Quote from: Captain Centrist on January 11, 2015, 08:41:08 PM
Oh good. A possible felon and a redneck. Just what we need.
Are you even capable of posting anything that doesn't sound like you're 2 friggin' years old ?
Long on idiot labels, short on reason.
And yes, your weak little liberal ass is showing.
Quote from: Gator Monroe on January 11, 2015, 07:54:24 PM
Walker/Gowdy in 16
This Post is both Herp & Derp proof... :popcorn:
Quote from: Gator Monroe on January 12, 2015, 12:56:54 PM
This Post is both Herp & Derp proof... :popcorn:
QuoteName: Trey Gowdy
Congress: South Carolina, District: 4, Republican
Cumulative Freedom Index Score: 78%
Status: Active Member of the House
Score Breakdown:
73% (113th Congress: 2013-2014); 82% (112th Congress: 2011-2012)
http://www.thenewamerican.com/freedomindex/profile.php?id=G000566 (http://www.thenewamerican.com/freedomindex/profile.php?id=G000566)
Here's a little comparison.
QuoteName: Tom McClintock
Congress: California, District: 4, Republican
Cumulative Freedom Index Score: 91%
Status: Active Member of the House
Score Breakdown:
93% (113th Congress: 2013-2014); 92% (112th Congress: 2011-2012); 90% (111th Congress: 2009-2010)
Name: Ted Cruz
Senate: Texas, Republican
Cumulative Freedom Index Score: 90%
Status: Active Member of the Senate
Score Breakdown:
90% (113th Congress: 2013-2014)
Quote from: Gator Monroe on January 11, 2015, 07:54:24 PM
Walker/Gowdy in 16
The main problem with that ticket is we need Gowdy as AG!! :popcorn: :popcorn:
Quote from: redbeard on January 12, 2015, 03:45:38 PM
The main problem with that ticket is we need Gowdy as AG!! :popcorn: :popcorn:
I'm for that. If Cruz cannot be President, he too would be the man in black. I'd settle for either.
While no one has been paying attention, Iowa, not incidentally, has become a narco state.
It serves the St. Louis and Kansas City markets, and has a couple of thriving customers
in its own borders. I'm just wondering how far down that road they have traveled. It doesn't
take long, and when it takes, law enforcement becomes anathema.
I'm against any Republican Senator running for president. We don't have a large majority in the Senate like we do in the House, and when you consider that some Senators are going to be retiring, and the fact that the party in the majority traditionally looses seats in the mid terms, we can ill afford to any forfeit any Senate seats to a bid for the Presidency or VP slot.
Quote from: Darth Fife on January 12, 2015, 04:26:57 PM
I'm against any Republican Senator running for president. We don't have a large majority in the Senate like we do in the House, and when you consider that some Senators are going to be retiring, and the fact that the party in the majority traditionally looses seats in the mid terms, we can ill afford to any Senate seats to a bid for the Presidency or VP slot.
Historically governors make the best presidents!!
Quote from: redbeard on January 12, 2015, 04:45:24 PM
Historically governors make the best presidents!!
That would be Walker, Jindahl, Perry, Bush, who am I missing? Was Huckabee a Governor?
You have to dig pretty deep to find a decent governor east of the Mississippi and north of the Mason Dixon line. Oh, Christie. Those guys are window dressing.
Sheee---it Almost forgot. Mitt.
Quote from: redbeard on January 12, 2015, 04:45:24 PM
Historically governors make the best presidents!!
I get tired of hearing that and reading that. It simply isn't so. Lincoln, for example, was never a governor, nor were Washington, Jefferson, or Madison, but all were respected and accomplished presidents. In the past 100 years, only seven of seventeen presidents had been governors, and that group includes Wilson, FDR, Carter, and Clinton, arguably four of the five worst (certainly the most damaging) presidents of the period before the Kenyan stumbled onto the scene. LBJ is the fifth, but he was never a governor, merely a "balance" VP, and he cruised to his only national electoral victory on the back of his predecessor's assassination mere months earlier.
The governor=good president is a myth.
Quote from: red_dirt on January 12, 2015, 05:23:03 PM
That would be Walker, Jindahl, Perry, Bush, who am I missing? Was Huckabee a Governor?
You have to dig pretty deep to find a decent governor east of the Mississippi and north of the Mason Dixon line. Oh, Christie. Those guys are window dressing.
Sheee---it Almost forgot. Mitt.
Well the first 3 on your list were pretty good. Jeb is not his brother, but he is to far off on illegal immigrants for me. He was a good governor here in Florida and definitely more conservative then George But I will take walker over him any day!! :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
Quote from: TboneAgain on January 12, 2015, 05:48:23 PM
I get tired of hearing that and reading that. It simply isn't so. Lincoln, for example, was never a governor, nor were Washington, Jefferson, or Madison, but all were respected and accomplished presidents. In the past 100 years, only seven of seventeen presidents had been governors, and that group includes Wilson, FDR, Carter, and Clinton, arguably four of the five worst (certainly the most damaging) presidents of the period before the Kenyan stumbled onto the scene. LBJ is the fifth, but he was never a governor, merely a "balance" VP, and he cruised to his only national electoral victory on the back of his predecessor's assassination mere months earlier.
The governor=good president is a myth.
Jefferson was the 2nd Governor of Virginia 1779-1781 and he also served as vice-President prior to being elected president.
Washington was, of course, the Commander in Chief of the Continental Army.
Madison. True, he was never a Governor, but he is hailed as the Father of the Constitution. If he didn't know how to be president, nobody would!
Lincoln did one thing. He kept the Union together - by force of arms and at the cost of half a million soldiers dead... at the hands of their brothers...
Quote from: Darth Fife on January 12, 2015, 07:16:54 PM
Jefferson was the 2nd Governor of Virginia 1779-1781 and he also served as vice-President prior to being elected president.
Washington was, of course, the Commander in Chief of the Continental Army.
Madison. True, he was never a Governor, but he is hailed as the Father of the Constitution. If he didn't know how to be president, nobody would!
Lincoln did one thing. He kept the Union together - by force of arms and at the cost of half a million soldiers dead... at the hands of their brothers...
How many of our good presidents came out of the House or Senate? :blink: :blink:
Quote from: Darth Fife on January 12, 2015, 07:16:54 PM
Jefferson was the 2nd Governor of Virginia 1779-1781 and he also served as vice-President prior to being elected president.
Washington was, of course, the Commander in Chief of the Continental Army.
Madison. True, he was never a Governor, but he is hailed as the Father of the Constitution. If he didn't know how to be president, nobody would!
Lincoln did one thing. He kept the Union together - by force of arms and at the cost of half a million soldiers dead... at the hands of their brothers...
I probably should have added military to that too! :blink: :blink:
Quote from: redbeard on January 12, 2015, 03:45:38 PM
The main problem with that ticket is we need Gowdy as AG!! :popcorn: :popcorn:
As great as this idea is; Trey Gowdy would make such an excellent replacement for Ruth Bader Ginzberg. I'd die with a permanent grin on my face (like the Joker)! :thumbsup:
Quote from: wally on January 13, 2015, 06:41:28 AM
As great as this idea is; Trey Gowdy would make such an excellent replacement for Ruth Bader Ginzberg. I'd die with a permanent grin on my face (like the Joker)! :thumbsup:
Now that's an excellent idea!
Quote from: wally on January 13, 2015, 06:41:28 AM
As great as this idea is; Trey Gowdy would make such an excellent replacement for Ruth Bader Ginzberg. I'd die with a permanent grin on my face (like the Joker)! :thumbsup:
Lefties would go nuts if Gowdy was nominated for the SC. I can see the MSM long guns coming out full fledged.
Quote from: supsalemgr on January 13, 2015, 09:12:37 AM
Lefties would go nuts if Gowdy was nominated for the SC. I can see the MSM long guns coming out full fledged.
Outside of "ideology" they'd have to come up with something better than pubic hairs on coke cans and Long Dong Silver!
Then, if "our guy" wins, we are just one State Funeral away from a solid gold SCOTUS, with the respect for the COnstitution that's been missing for so long!