Yes, not all libs, but it is they who are to blame for this crap!
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What started as a battle over fireworks shows led to a sweeping legal victory Friday for environmentalists that could stymie a wide range of events needing city permits, from the Rock 'n' Roll Marathon to birthday parties held at parks.
This has absolutely nothing to do with the environment, but everything to do with ending another long standing tradition of celebrating our freedom and what America stands for.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/may/27/fireworks-shows-need-environmental-review/ (http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/may/27/fireworks-shows-need-environmental-review/)
Quote from: Solar on May 29, 2011, 01:53:57 PM
Yes, not all libs, but it is they who are to blame for this crap!
This has absolutely nothing to do with the environment, but everything to do with ending another long standing tradition of celebrating our freedom and what America stands for.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/may/27/fireworks-shows-need-environmental-review/ (http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/may/27/fireworks-shows-need-environmental-review/)
A pox upon them all! I can remember the late '50's, when, if you were 18 or older, you could legally buy firecrackers like cherry bombs, silver tube salutes and M-80's.
Quote from: MAC Man on May 29, 2011, 02:39:52 PM
A pox upon them all! I can remember the late '50's, when, if you were 18 or older, you could legally buy firecrackers like cherry bombs, silver tube salutes and M-80's.
I love M-80s, used to fish with them.
But now all we will be allowed to do, is play a video of a fireworks display. :D
Stupid, stupid liberals!!!
Quote from: Solar on May 29, 2011, 02:42:07 PM
I love M-80s, used to fish with them.
But now all we will be allowed to do, is play a video of a fireworks display. :D
Stupid, stupid liberals!!!
Fishing with M-80's? That reminds me of an old joke-
Q: What's a W.Va fishing pole?
A: Two sticks of dynamite tied to a lead weight. :))
M-80's and cherry bombs: a boy's delight. Deep down, the anti-firework thing, like so many things in the anti-culture, are anti-male, anti-boy, an attempt, and quite successful, to emasculate males.
We boys as late adolescents and early teens used to play war. My uncle Charlie, a WWI and WWII vet, had cut an hand grenade into an made ashtrays out of the halves for the smokers at grandma's house. (Grandma herself did not smoke; she dipped!) We would prepare for war for weeks before it took place. We took red clay from the hills and used to two halves to mold clay grenades. While the clay was still wet, we inserted a loop of bailing wire into the upper side so that we could hang the grenade on our clothes. We inserted two-inch firecrackers into the top and wove the fuses around a cluster of kitchen matches. Then we set them out in the sun to dry. All a budding G.I. had to do was strike the matches and toss the grenade. When the two-inch firecracker went off, there was a cloud of dust from the clay "shrapnel."
To further prepare for the war, we collected scores of those larger beer cans. Of course, in those days, they had two church-key holes in the bottom. To the top, we'd tape a two-inch firecracker. To the bottom, we'd tape a cherry bomb. We had a length of pipe which was sealed at one end. First, you lit the cherry bomb and then the two-incher. Then, you dropped it down the tube. The blast from the cherry bomb would send the can sailing toward the "enemy," and the two-incher would effect the kill.
Our personal arms were sling shots which went by another name in my day. From them, we fired China berries or green pecans. Some of us were armed with BB guns, and one friend even had a BB pistol. Others of us carried rubber-band guns. We collected as many rat traps as we could in order to mine our positions. We also had some old arrows from which had no heads. We'd take a cluster of firecrackers to them.
We fought until all ammunition was utterly depleted. We'd then kill some birds, not mattering what kind, and roast them on an open fire. Someone always had some salt and pepper.
We also enjoyed fighting wasps. We used the sling shots with rocks to stir them up. We then fought them with rubber band guns and the green ends of pine limbs. It was a right of passage to get stung. Sometimes a wasp would give you a do-pop (two quick stings, because wasps do not lose their stingers.) We would cry and laugh at the same time. Once the fighting was over, we'd get the larva out of the nest and go fishing with them. We usually caught little bream (we called them "sun perch") and fried them right there on the creek bank.
After eating the fish, we'd swim. Sometimes we had watermelons. You can ride those things in the water, although it is hard to stay on. We'd get on and then attempt to knock one another off. Tired of that, we'd bust them and eat them.
At the end of the day, hot, sweaty, and stinking like a goat; but up and stung, we'd come home. Moms would ask us what we'd been up to. We'd usually say, "Not much." Moms knew better of course. They'd smile and then fuss that we needed to get a bath. We slept well, dream of the day just gone and of the day about to dawn.
This is how Southern boys had fun in the late spring and summer until football and hunting began.
I hope that somewhere in this ugly, emasculated world that there are a band of little boys who get to do that. If so, they will be the few men of the next generation.
Environmentalism as practiced and often advocated is misguided. However, it is at the same time often founded in good intentions. We all know what is said about good intentions and outside of a discussion of Kant a good will alone is not enough, but is there anyone here who honestly thinks that it is beneficial to corrupt our environment? It does benefit us to have sustainable use of resources and less exposure to environmental hazards.
So I ask, why is this assumed to be an effort founded in blatant anti-Americanism rather than misguided myopic consideration of environmental impact?
Great story and great memories Berg.
I too parallel your experience, though we improvised with hydrogen bombs (Lye and aluminum).
The story is the same, and our mothers knew, but our fathers quelled their worry , in that it is a right of passage.
You are correct, it is emasculation of the worse kind, taking away the right to be a boy, too many kids these days are drugged for acting like boys.
These people really and truly want to control everything. I have had more than enough of their idiocy....and I agree it has nothing to do with the environment.....just like Obamacare has nothing to do with helping the uninsured. It's all about expanding government to the point that we are no longer free to do as we choose.
I love Chinese New Year in Shanghai... I mean, you can by 2 INCH mortars right off the street. Rolls of 50,000 firecrackers. For 20 RMB (about $3.30) you can get 10 blow-bombs - about an M80 that shoots a cracker about 200 feet in the air, which explodes like another M80 - but with colors!
Yeah, some people get injured, but it's because they're stupid and treated as such - it's their own fault, not that of the firework factory or the store/vendor that sold it...
Quote from: Solar on May 29, 2011, 01:53:57 PM
Yes, not all libs, but it is they who are to blame for this crap!
QuoteWhat started as a battle over fireworks shows led to a sweeping legal victory Friday for environmentalists that could stymie a wide range of events needing city permits, from the Rock 'n' Roll Marathon to birthday parties held at parks.
This has absolutely nothing to do with the environment, but everything to do with ending another long standing tradition of celebrating our freedom and what America stands for.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/may/27/fireworks-shows-need-environmental-review/ (http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/may/27/fireworks-shows-need-environmental-review/)
As a side observation: This just proves how stupid Obama is. If he had a lick of sense, he'd stand up to this sort of stupidity and win the hearts of just enough independents to gain him a v itory in 2012.
Well, thank God that Liberal stupidity knows no bounds.
Quote from: GreyRaceGlobalist on May 29, 2011, 03:36:37 PM
Environmentalism as practiced and often advocated is misguided. However, it is at the same time often founded in good intentions. We all know what is said about good intentions and outside of a discussion of Kant a good will alone is not enough, but is there anyone here who honestly thinks that it is beneficial to corrupt our environment? It does benefit us to have sustainable use of resources and less exposure to environmental hazards.
So I ask, why is this assumed to be an effort founded in blatant anti-Americanism rather than misguided myopic consideration of environmental impact?
Simply because it is assumed as a hazard, does not make it so.
So what if a little smoke get in the air, is that reason to destroy a tradition?
How many fires are created by Nature, or volcanoes?
Yet somehow we seem to survive.
This is a lot to do about nothing. Its time to put an end to this stupidity!
Quote from: Solar on May 29, 2011, 04:03:50 PM
Simply because it is assumed as a hazard, does not make it so.
So what if a little smoke get in the air, is that reason to destroy a tradition?
No, not as I see it. I think we all agree that this is ridiculous. My questions were about assumed motives.
Quote from: GreyRaceGlobalist on May 29, 2011, 04:06:32 PM
No, not as I see it. I think we all agree that this is ridiculous. My questions were about assumed motives.
I can't speak on motive, since I wasn't there, but there are lawyers out there with an agenda, and when they got word of this, probably volunteered their time.
Why stop at having the venue moved, when you are in a position to kill it all together?
Quote from: lilac7779 on May 29, 2011, 03:41:49 PM
These people really and truly want to control everything. I have had more than enough of their idiocy....and I agree it has nothing to do with the environment.....just like Obamacare has nothing to do with helping the uninsured. It's all about expanding government to the point that we are no longer free to do as we choose.
You are so right on lilac...
There is something soooo UNAMERICAN about banning fireworks and especially on the 4th of July.....
Billy
The libs would ban flying the flag if they could get away with it.
Quote from: WoodBurner on May 30, 2011, 06:02:17 AM
The libs would ban flying the flag if they could get away with it.
Fits a pattern doesn't it?
Burn it ban it, matters not to them, as long as they are the ones with the final word.
Libs are notorious for changing their mind, first its global cooling, then warming, they ban technology out of fear, only to later change their mind, they see nothing wrong with banning Conservative speech, yet claim they believe in the 1st Amendment, or ban crosses in a cemetery, and still claim they support the Bill of Rights.
But you can bet they would demand fireworks at celebrating any single loss of our freedoms as a victory, as mentioned above.
Quote from: WoodBurner on May 30, 2011, 06:02:17 AM
The libs would ban flying the flag if they could get away with it.
Based on what?
Would you take the ACLU to be a representation of Liberalism in America? The ACLU has previously defended the flying of both the US and Gadsden flags.
Quote from: GreyRaceGlobalist on May 30, 2011, 07:16:18 AM
Based on what?
Would you take the ACLU to be a representation of Liberalism in America? The ACLU has previously defended the flying of both the US and Gadsden flags.
Nah, they'd rather prefer to deface it.
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Quote from: Solar on May 30, 2011, 08:52:20 AM
Nah, they'd rather prefer to deface it.
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You can say "nah" but that doesn't change the fact the ACLU has defended people asked to take down the US and the Gadsden flag.
The appropriateness of using the stars and bars motif in fashion seems a separate issue. How is redbubble.net associated with the ACLU?
Quote from: GreyRaceGlobalist on May 30, 2011, 09:00:23 AM
You can say "nah" but that doesn't change the fact the ACLU has defended people asked to take down the US and the Gadsden flag.
The appropriateness of using the stars and bars motif in fashion seems a separate issue. How is redbubble.net associated with the ACLU?
Haven't a clue. But to call that fashion is simply ignoring the obvious.
Quote from: GreyRaceGlobalist on May 30, 2011, 07:16:18 AM
Based on what?
Would you take the ACLU to be a representation of Liberalism in America? The ACLU has previously defended the flying of both the US and Gadsden flags.
Do you remember the reports of the school board meeting(I think)
where the board member said that reciting the Pledge of Allegiance
wasn't appropriate?
Quote from: WoodBurner on May 30, 2011, 09:49:38 AM
Do you remember the reports of the school board meeting(I think)
where the board member said that reciting the Pledge of Allegiance
wasn't appropriate?
"And neither is reelecting you to a job your sorry ass does not deserve," would be the appropriate--- and collective --- reply.
Quote from: quiller on May 30, 2011, 10:08:53 AM
"And neither is reelecting you to a job your sorry ass does not deserve," would be the appropriate--- and collective --- reply.
Actually the people broke out in an unscripted pledge.
It was pretty cool. 8)
Quote from: WoodBurner on May 30, 2011, 09:49:38 AM
Do you remember the reports of the school board meeting(I think)
where the board member said that reciting the Pledge of Allegiance
wasn't appropriate?
No, I'm not familiar with the incident. I'd be curious to know what the context was. I'm not saying I think it likely that the context justifies his position, I'm just curious what it was.
Was he saying that it was inappropriate to recite the pledge in the board meetings or that school children shouldn't be reciting it at the beginning of the school day?
Quote from: GreyRaceGlobalist on May 30, 2011, 11:33:42 AM
No, I'm not familiar with the incident. I'd be curious to know what the context was. I'm not saying I think it likely that the context justifies his position, I'm just curious what it was.
Was he saying that it was inappropriate to recite the pledge in the board meetings or that school children shouldn't be reciting it at the beginning of the school day?
Either way, is EITHER group any LESS American? Both should recite it, and the version authorized by Congress: "UNDER GOD."
Quote from: GreyRaceGlobalist on May 30, 2011, 11:33:42 AM
No, I'm not familiar with the incident. I'd be curious to know what the context was. I'm not saying I think it likely that the context justifies his position, I'm just curious what it was.
Was he saying that it was inappropriate to recite the pledge in the board meetings or that school children shouldn't be reciting it at the beginning of the school day?
It was at a school board meeting. But like Quiller said "Both should recite It"
I guess the point I was trying to make in my first post is that liberals are
not as patriotic as I feel they should be. Remember Mrs. O was never
proud of her of her country until Husain was elected.
Seems like the fun police are out to make another stupid arbitrary rule.
Quote from: redlom xof on May 31, 2011, 03:34:09 AM
Seems like the fun police are out to make another stupid arbitrary rule.
Huh?
It seems people are trying to stop other people from having some harmless fun on the fourth of July.
Quote from: redlom xof on May 31, 2011, 06:01:03 AM
It seems people are trying to stop other people from having some harmless fun on the fourth of July.
Doh~ I thought this was a different thread because they were talking about the Pledge. ;)
Far Left & Social Justice crowd also want to Change the American Flag too ... (Due to it's Racist Bigoted Homophobic Colonialist Imperialist Slave owning past history ) >:(
I admit I am not 100% sure of this, but it appears that MOST states do require elected officials including school board members to take an actual sworn oath of office.
Swearing to uphold the Constitution of the United States is VERY often a part of such an oath, be it a National Guardsman, a governor, a state employee, or a school board member.
If you are ashamed of the document granting you the newfound authority you have, then you do not deserve the public trust which put you there.
Quote from: Gator Monroe on May 31, 2011, 07:23:54 PM
Far Left & Social Justice crowd also want to Change the American Flag too ... (Due to it's Racist Bigoted Homophobic Colonialist Imperialist Slave owning past history ) >:(
Hey now, as a Racist, Bigot, Homophobe, Colonialist and Imperialist, I am offended!
Quote from: CaliforniaCatholic on June 02, 2011, 04:40:55 AM
Hey now, as a Racist, Bigot, Homophobe, Colonialist and Imperialist, I am offended!
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I still don't get the term homophobe.
It gives one the misleading perception that fags somehow instill fear.
To the contrary, disgust, revolting, sickening maybe homorevolting or homosickening. :))
But never afraid.
It is a sad day in America if WE don't show in montage type commercials the follies of there actions.People are not following whats happening like those here on this forum.So now is the right time for these commercials to appear in real time.From banning the drilling of natural gas in the Catskills New York then saying they want lower energy cost. It has to be done locally though in order to bring up the rest of your neighbors up to speed .I ask some of them if there aware of effects of things like this ,they don't know that 87% of news votes for one political party,they don't know that .So it is up to us to learn them.When you find out you have been lied to by media and why you would never trust them again.