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Title: Is it real or is it staged?
Post by: The Stranger on February 03, 2013, 11:41:06 AM
So is it real or is it fake.
IMHO and a shooter of 35 years would say it may have been staged. The most obvious to shooters it the placement of the gun, putting the stock on your shoulder like that would start to hurt real fast and isn't recommended.
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Here are some others and look where we would put the butt. Also notice you would be leaning into the shot.
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Title: Re: Is it real or is it staged?
Post by: Turks on February 03, 2013, 11:44:35 AM
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/am_backfire_x2RKzceXFc2IUwUHjmvVIN (http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/am_backfire_x2RKzceXFc2IUwUHjmvVIN)


He's not holding it correctly.  Then again he doesn't do much right anyway...
Title: Re: Is it real or is it staged?
Post by: Turks on February 03, 2013, 11:45:39 AM
Quote from: Turks on February 03, 2013, 11:44:35 AM
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/am_backfire_x2RKzceXFc2IUwUHjmvVIN (http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/am_backfire_x2RKzceXFc2IUwUHjmvVIN)



He's not holding it correctly.  Then again he doesn't do much right anyway...

It's as real as his birth certificate.  (sarcasm) :smile:

Title: Re: Is it real or is it staged?
Post by: Solar on February 03, 2013, 11:46:27 AM
As I pointed out in the other thread, his handler obviously wasn't vetted, he posed him wrong on purpose, everything he is doing in that shot is an instruction of what no to do.

Anyone that's ever fired a gun with a kick, would never hold one that way, which is proof that it's the first time he's ever fired one.
Bet it's his last too. :lol:
Title: Re: Is it real or is it staged?
Post by: Turks on February 03, 2013, 11:50:24 AM
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:smile:
Title: Re: Is it real or is it staged?
Post by: Solar on February 03, 2013, 11:52:49 AM
Quote from: Turks on February 03, 2013, 11:50:24 AM
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Didn't post, just blank.
Title: Re: Is it real or is it staged?
Post by: Turks on February 03, 2013, 12:06:02 PM
Quote from: Solar on February 03, 2013, 11:52:49 AM
Didn't post, just blank.

Fixed it... :thumbsup:  Just a little pre-Super Bowl humor.  I'd bet the guy in the photo would be just as accurate as Dear Leader. :smile:
Title: Re: Is it real or is it staged?
Post by: Turks on February 03, 2013, 12:09:22 PM
Quote from: The Stranger on February 03, 2013, 11:41:06 AM
So is it real or is it fake.
IMHO and a shooter of 35 years would say it may have been staged. The most obvious to shooters it the placement of the gun, putting the stock on your shoulder like that would start to hurt real fast and isn't recommended.
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Here are some others and look where we would put the butt. Also notice you would be leaning into the shot.
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He was aiming ground level at Michelle.   He was also wondering to himself, where's Dick Cheney when you need him.
Title: Re: Is it real or is it staged?
Post by: Shooterman on February 03, 2013, 12:09:37 PM
Quote from: Turks on February 03, 2013, 11:45:39 AM
He's not holding it correctly.  Then again he doesn't do much right anyway...

It's as real as his birth certificate.  (sarcasm) :smile:

Ever seen the ditz throw a baseball?
Title: Re: Is it real or is it staged?
Post by: Turks on February 03, 2013, 12:12:25 PM
Quote from: Shooterman on February 03, 2013, 12:09:37 PM
Ever seen the ditz throw a baseball?

It's like that commercial where the father is teaching his son to throw t a baseball.  I forget what it's for.  He throws like a "girlyman"

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Title: Re: Is it real or is it staged?
Post by: Solar on February 03, 2013, 12:58:14 PM
Quote from: Turks on February 03, 2013, 12:09:22 PM
He was aiming ground level at Michelle.   He was also wondering to himself, where's Dick Cheney when you need him.
Michelle? Does he really need to aim to hit that broad side of barn of a target?
Title: Re: Is it real or is it staged?
Post by: JustKari on February 03, 2013, 01:17:14 PM
I think it was a VW commercial.  But here's the pitch...
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Title: Re: Is it real or is it staged?
Post by: The Stranger on February 03, 2013, 01:29:52 PM
Quote from: Solar on February 03, 2013, 12:58:14 PM
Michelle? Does he really need to aim to hit that broad side of barn of a target?
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Title: Re: Is it real or is it staged?
Post by: Solar on February 03, 2013, 01:33:26 PM
Remember all the shit the leftist media gave Palin for her shooting?
Where is that same disdain for Husein?

Note to Husein, he needs to shoot more like a girl. :laugh:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BCHiW6cCEAA8nmG.jpg:large)

Title: Re: Is it real or is it staged?
Post by: kramarat on February 03, 2013, 02:06:01 PM
If Obama wants to prove that he's a man, he should spend his weekends clearing brush at the Bush ranch. :biggrin:
Title: Re: Is it real or is it staged?
Post by: BILLY Defiant on February 03, 2013, 02:38:26 PM
I could care less if the photos are staged or not...how about a photo of the Schmuck balancing the budget

:rolleyes:
Title: Re: Is it real or is it staged?
Post by: kramarat on February 03, 2013, 02:51:46 PM
Quote from: BILLY Defiant on February 03, 2013, 02:38:26 PM
I could care less if the photos are staged or not...how about a photo of the Schmuck balancing the budget

:rolleyes:

I want to see the photo that proves that Obama stands behind gays.

[not really]
Title: Re: Is it real or is it staged?
Post by: BILLY Defiant on February 03, 2013, 02:56:03 PM
Quote from: kramarat on February 03, 2013, 02:51:46 PM
I want to see the photo that proves that Obama stands behind gays.

[not really]

Oh God and all the Saints please take that horrible image from
my mind.... :lol:
Title: Re: Is it real or is it staged?
Post by: kramarat on February 03, 2013, 03:04:52 PM
Quote from: BILLY Defiant on February 03, 2013, 02:56:03 PM
Oh God and all the Saints please take that horrible image from
my mind.... :lol:

Before you erase the image completely, (and I don't want to cause you bad dreams), picture Joe Biden with one of those red plastic balls strapped in his mouth. :scared:
Title: Re: Is it real or is it staged?
Post by: kramarat on February 03, 2013, 03:12:01 PM
Or we could take it a step further.............

If we were to believe the rumors about Obama's proclivity for older white men, I suppose we could change Biden's last name to Lewinsky.  :ohmy:
Title: Re: Is it real or is it staged?
Post by: Balto on February 03, 2013, 08:03:50 PM
Quote from: kramarat on February 03, 2013, 02:06:01 PM
If Obama wants to prove that he's a man, he should spend his weekends clearing brush at the Bush ranch. :biggrin:
Yes that would be the perfect test. A slouchy liberal working for a conservative.
Title: Re: Is it real or is it staged?
Post by: raptor5618 on February 04, 2013, 11:11:37 AM
The gun looks to be ported so it would not kick as much, doubt he shoots much and the stance is not athletic at all.  How is it possible that he was a supposed basketball star when every athletic thing I have ever seen him do he does not look athletic.  When bush ran you could tell he was a runner. How could you shoot a basketball and then throw a baseball like that.  He is not even coordinated.  Think they put him in a game with 10 seconds to go just so that they could laugh at him. 
Title: Re: Is it real or is it staged?
Post by: JustKari on February 04, 2013, 11:49:51 AM
I think the picture is staged and here is why, his original quote made it sounds like he shoots, if they had posted that very same picture, sans the smoke, everyone would have rolled their eyes, and said, so what, he holds a gun.  However, suddenly they have a picture, from Camp David, with him literally holding a smoking gun.  Do you know how difficult it is to get a picture of that smoke, without taking a frame out of video? 

Secondly, the WH has claimed this was taken at Camp David, the sleet range at CD has a long light green almost grey colored fence heading down range of the shooter, which is absent in this picture. 

Thirdly, this picture was supposedly taken on Aug. 4, 2012, well, the press just happened to be following him around that day like the lap dogs they are, and he was golfing in FL that day.


change 1012 to 2012
Title: Re: Is it real or is it staged?
Post by: raptor5618 on February 04, 2013, 01:44:11 PM
Well if Justkari is right with her information this is just pitiful.  Hard to imagine they would even bother and what burns me the most is that the MSM will probably not say a peep about it.  I do not know how JustKari got this information but it certainly would be an easy check for those who follow him everywhere and yet they will not even check on something that is easy to verify.  I think they could catch the smoke because a lot of these cameras can take a series of pictures but most ports vent to more than one direction and the gun still kicks so I do think you might see some indication of a kick. Also seems to be aimed pretty low for skeet. 

Pretty sad.
Title: Re: Is it real or is it staged?
Post by: Solar on February 04, 2013, 01:59:00 PM
Quote from: raptor5618 on February 04, 2013, 01:44:11 PM
Well if Justkari is right with her information this is just pitiful.  Hard to imagine they would even bother and what burns me the most is that the MSM will probably not say a peep about it.  I do not know how JustKari got this information but it certainly would be an easy check for those who follow him everywhere and yet they will not even check on something that is easy to verify.  I think they could catch the smoke because a lot of these cameras can take a series of pictures but most ports vent to more than one direction and the gun still kicks so I do think you might see some indication of a kick. Also seems to be aimed pretty low for skeet. 

Pretty sad.
I agree, the smoke just doesn't strike me as true, if you look at the smoke coming off the side of the barrel, you'll note at the extreme end of the smoke, (the first to escape) it appears to be drifting left , to drift like this, there should be some indication of kick, which there is absolutely none.
The presence of smoke to this degree and length of existence, would have residual effects on the shooter, like off balance or in his case, shock that he actually fired a weapon.
None of this is present. IMO, it's faked, but then, is anyone really surprised?
Title: Re: Is it real or is it staged?
Post by: JustKari on February 04, 2013, 02:16:01 PM

I was going to post this info from my desktop, as soon as Mr. gets the internet connection working (later tonight I hope).  I will post the proofs.  :drool:
Title: Re: Is it real or is it staged?
Post by: JustKari on February 04, 2013, 03:18:52 PM
Thanks to my Mr. for fixing my puter.  :biggrin:

Here is CBS talking about the Aug. 4th date

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-34222_162-57567334-10391739/nra-scoffs-at-obama-skeet-shooting-photo/ (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-34222_162-57567334-10391739/nra-scoffs-at-obama-skeet-shooting-photo/)

I shall eat a bit of crow, first he golfed, then went to CD.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/08/04/on-the-trail-august-4-2012/ (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/08/04/on-the-trail-august-4-2012/)

Pictures of Camp David skeet range.

I am going to put this in non-linked format, as it is a blog, but it does include many pictures and even a google earth view.  If you want to go there, copy and paste to a new page and delete the spaces.

aboutcampdavid.blogspot.ca/2010/08/skeet-range
Title: Re: Is it real or is it staged?
Post by: walkstall on February 04, 2013, 03:42:50 PM
Jacqueline and John F. Kennedy at the Skeet Range in Camp David (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwBEsLsEZHw#ws)
Title: Re: Is it real or is it staged?
Post by: Solar on February 04, 2013, 03:54:30 PM
Look at the pic I found in a search of Camp David skeet range, then compare it to the pic of Husein.
What skeet range was he at? :rolleyes:

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Title: Re: Is it real or is it staged?
Post by: Solar on February 04, 2013, 04:40:53 PM
Does anyone know what kind of gun he's using? I searched and can't find any mention of the brand, I ask, because the only powder on the mkt that smokes is black powder type weapons.
Title: Re: Is it real or is it staged?
Post by: PeterR on February 04, 2013, 04:41:20 PM

Next on our agenda ... SkeetGate!

Fortunately, it doesn't come with the same fatal consequences as either Fast & Furious or BengaziGate.   
Title: Re: Is it real or is it staged?
Post by: JustKari on February 04, 2013, 06:53:50 PM
Quote from: Solar on February 04, 2013, 04:40:53 PM
Does anyone know what kind of gun he's using? I searched and can't find any mention of the brand, I ask, because the only powder on the mkt that smokes is black powder type weapons.
Word on the web (FWIW) is vented Browning 425.  But all sites that I have been to with gun savvy people agree, this photo is fishy to put it lightly.
Title: Re: Is it real or is it staged?
Post by: walkstall on February 04, 2013, 07:03:34 PM
Quote from: PeterR on February 04, 2013, 04:41:20 PM
Next on our agenda ... SkeetGate!

Fortunately, it doesn't come with the same fatal consequences as either Fast & Furious or BengaziGate.


I would not stand down range around him. 
Title: Re: Is it real or is it staged?
Post by: Solar on February 04, 2013, 08:05:25 PM
Quote from: JustKari on February 04, 2013, 06:53:50 PM
Word on the web (FWIW) is vented Browning 425.  But all sites that I have been to with gun savvy people agree, this photo is fishy to put it lightly.
Thanks, I'll look it up. :smile:

OK, looked it up and that's the gun, 12 gauge, it's not a black powder gun, so if someone can explain the smoke, that might be interesting.
I've fired all kinds of different brands of ammo through my 12ga and not once have I seen smoke, not even a tiny bit.

Photo shop anyone? :laugh:
Title: Re: Is it real or is it staged?
Post by: Turks on February 05, 2013, 07:26:58 AM
http://www.federalobserver.com/2013/02/05/dear-america-the-jokes-on-you/ (http://www.federalobserver.com/2013/02/05/dear-america-the-jokes-on-you/)


"Now, supposedly, this picture of Obama shooting the Browning carries a date stamp of August 4, 2012 – supposedly the occasion of Obama's 51st birthday if we are to believe his forged birth certificate.

According to a Reuter's article, released on August 4, 2012, 4:52 p.m., Obama spent his day on the golf course at Andrews AF Base; going by Marine One (helicopter) the evening of August 4, 2012 to Camp David where he had his birthday dinner and spent the evening with wife, Michelle. Interestingly, the article also states,

... it was not clear whether they [referring to the Obamas] would be present at the rustic getaway [referring to Camp David] that the Obamas have visited less than past White House residents.

But Obama would have us believe that, "... up at Camp David, we do skeet shooting all the time ..." From another source, Obama qualified his statement, about shooting skeet at Camp David, by saying, "Not the girls, but oftentimes guests of mine go up there." So, no skeet shooting goes on when "the girls" are there? But one of the "girls" was there on August 4, 2012 so can we conclude that, in the evening hours of August 4, 2012, no skeet shooting happened? Time constraints would certainly suggest such.

I know—they must have figured that picture might come in handy down the road, so Obama ran quick and got "in costume", they ran out there, posed Obama quick with the gun, set the film running, Obama discharged the gun, and viola, the picture. Then they ran back inside where Obama and wife enjoyed his birthday dinner. When releasing the picture seemed a good political move, the story was concocted to go with it. No sarcasm intended, of course!"