Interesting Question

Started by Byteryder, January 24, 2013, 05:51:26 PM

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Phillip

Quote from: Turks on January 25, 2013, 07:10:51 AM
You want to play the link routine:

http://www.google.com/search?q=foresnic+proof+obama%27s+bc+is+forged&rls=com.microsoft:*&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1

Knock yourself out.


I don't do Google searches, that's just a cop-out. I could do a search for "Mitt Romney wins the presidency" and probably get hundreds of thousands of hits. Give an actual source from a mainstream outlet.

Turks

Quote from: Phillip on January 25, 2013, 07:10:21 AM

You didn't even have time to read it but you already are judging it. Interesting...


Yoiu mean like you judged every other site/evidence that might disagree with you?

Solar

Quote from: Phillip on January 25, 2013, 07:06:50 AM

Apparently "experts" disagree it is forged.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/04/29/expert-says-obamas-birth-certificate-legit/

I guess FOX News is in on the grand birth certificate conspiracy?
So suddenly Fox becomes credible? I think not, and if you think all of us believe Fox, you're more gullible than I thought.

http://www.examiner.com/article/sheriff-joe-arpaio-offers-indisputable-proof-obama-s-birth-certificate-a-fake
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Quote from: Phillip on January 25, 2013, 07:12:19 AM

I don't do Google searches, that's just a cop-out. I could do a search for "Mitt Romney wins the presidency" and probably get hundreds of thousands of hits. Give an actual source from a mainstream outlet.

You do a great "two-step"  Do you dance regularly?   You don't do searches .  So you had the FOX link preloaded and ready to fire.... :lol:

I think we're done...at least I am.

Phillip

Quote from: Turks on January 25, 2013, 07:12:22 AM

Yoiu mean like you judged every other site/evidence that might disagree with you?


I disagree with FOX News all the time but that doesn't mean I don't consider it a fair news source for information. I just pointed out that the fact you won't read a source [A conservative outlet at that] tells me your mind isn't really open on this issue. I mean, that's fair enough and all. Your mind is made up, sorry for introducing facts...

Phillip

Quote from: Turks on January 25, 2013, 07:13:42 AM
You do a great "two-step"  Do you dance regularly?   You don't do searches .  So you had the FOX link preloaded and ready to fire.... :lol:


Yup, I actually do have an assortment of links on various issues ready to use [I do need to trim them down though!].

Turks

Quote from: Phillip on January 25, 2013, 07:13:52 AM

I disagree with FOX News all the time but that doesn't mean I don't consider it a fair news source for information. I just pointed out that the fact you won't read a source [A conservative outlet at that] tells me your mind isn't really open on this issue. I mean, that's fair enough and all. Your mind is made up, sorry for introducing facts...

I just read it...and?  I can give you experts who say it is forged but I've wasted enough time.   What makes your sources better than others?  I noticed you ignored Solar's link.

Solar

Quote from: Turks on January 25, 2013, 07:17:52 AM
I just read it...and?  I can give you experts who say it is forged but I've wasted enough time.   What makes your sources better than others?  I noticed you ignored Solar's link.
According to him it's a conservative news source. :rolleyes:   :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Quote from: Solar on January 25, 2013, 07:20:27 AM
According to him it's a conservative news source. :rolleyes:   :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Not worth your time or mine to go toe to toe with him.  Let's let him put his foot in his mouth by seeing what he has to say on other topics.  That's if he sticks around.

Phillip

Quote from: Solar on January 25, 2013, 07:12:35 AM
So suddenly Fox becomes credible? I think not, and if you think all of us believe Fox, you're more gullible than I thought.

http://www.examiner.com/article/sheriff-joe-arpaio-offers-indisputable-proof-obama-s-birth-certificate-a-fake


All you are showing is that there are forensic experts who think its inauthentic much like I've shown there are those who think it is authentic. As for Arpaio, his feud is strictly political. So, you didn't really show much [Other than a story about Arpaio's political stunt].

Phillip

Quote from: Turks on January 25, 2013, 07:17:52 AM
I just read it...and?  I can give you experts who say it is forged but I've wasted enough time.   What makes your sources better than others?  I noticed you ignored Solar's link.


That's because I was reading the article before judging it and responding. Imagine that!

Turks

Quote from: Phillip on January 25, 2013, 07:23:55 AM

That's because I was reading the article before judging it and responding. Imagine that!


:popcorn:

Phillip

Quote from: Turks on January 25, 2013, 07:25:17 AM

:popcorn:


I'll head out so you can continue to hear the sweet sounds of an echo in your chamber.  :thumbsup:

Solar

Quote from: Turks on January 25, 2013, 07:25:17 AM

:popcorn:
We'll get the last laugh, Unfortunately at the expense of the country.
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Quote from: Phillip on January 25, 2013, 07:28:07 AM

I'll head out so you can continue to hear the sweet sounds of an echo in your chamber.  :thumbsup:


"Fox News expert denies he claimed birth certificate legit
Angry at network for refusing to retract its story on Obama document"



"The computer graphics expert Fox News relied upon to claim the birth certificate the White House released April 27 was legitimate insists that the network must retract the story, claiming it deliberately misquoted him and continues to ignore his repeated requests.



Jean Claude Tremblay told WND that that none of his comments would permit the conclusion that the Obama birth certificate is an authentic document.


"I no longer trust Fox News," he said, expressing anger verging on disdain for the way he feels the network treated him. "Despite my protests, Fox News will not allow me to correct their story."

The controversy traces to a Web story by Fox News reporter Jana Winter two days after the White House released the birth certificate, titled "Expert: No Doubt Obama's Birth Certificate is Legit."


Noting that Obama doubters were claiming the birth certificate was a  fake, Winter wrote, "But a leading software expert says there's no doubt about its authenticity, and he dismisses claims of fraud as flat-out wrong."

"I never said that," Tremblay insists. "Winter called me and talked to me for about five minutes on the telephone, and she never said she was going to quote me. Then she misrepresented what I said."

In a long post on his professional website ProficioGrafic.com in Montreal, Canada,

He asserted that the way Winter interpreted his comments about the use of OCR (Optical Character Recognition) software in the PDF (Portable Document Format) file of the Obama birth certificate released by the White House "were also not 100 percent accurate."
In his written comments, Tremblay expressed his consternation.



"First, I never thought that what I saw in the Birth Certificate PDF was a proof of its authenticity," he wrote. "For me, what I have seen does not prove that it is legit, nor that it is a fake, nor that there has been any tampering whatsoever," he wrote. "The title of the blog does not represent my conclusion. It would be unprofessional and simplistic within my area of competence to come to a conclusion one way or the other."

Despite making repeated requests to Fox News to post a correction, including several comments to Winter on Twitter, Fox News has continued to leave its original story posted without any corrections or qualifications.

Winter did not respond to a WND call asking for comment.

"As far as I am concerned, Fox News is not trustworthy," Tremblay said. "I would not watch Fox News or read the Fox News [website] because they have never replied to me or allowed me to post my corrections to their report of my comments and views.""


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http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2011/06/22/fox-news-ocr-expert-states-fox-news-not-trustworthy-jana-winter-report-misleading-jean-claude-tremblay-did-not-authenticate-obama-birth-certificate/