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General Category => Political Discussion and Debate => Topic started by: Solar on June 26, 2016, 05:34:26 AM

Title: How Did Trump Steal The Election?
Post by: Solar on June 26, 2016, 05:34:26 AM
We all knew the truth all along, that the libs put the NY Lib in office.

Quote12 Million Democrats Voted In The Republican Primaries

After a lot of work I have finished my math calculations. A simple effort will show that from 2000 to 2008 there was a change in Primary votes of 10-12 million. Ten million more Republicans and 12 million less Democrats. But this is child's play. Getting deeper, examining States with close polling prior to the registration requirements, States with a clear winner in polls prior to registration change requirements, and you can set patterns.

Using 2000 and 2008 as baselines, the conclusion was staggering. Trump only got about 3.3 million Republican Votes. The rest are Democrats, approximately 12 million of them.

I also found via my studies by going back to 1992 that this behavior is not new, in fact even when there is a tight contest about 5% will "strategically vote" in the Republican Party primary/caucus. Even more disturbing is that it appears that there may be even a 5% not normally detectable, of Republicans who only vote Democrat. Aka plants that we always knew existed.

In some circumstances the vote differences were so extreme that it defies explanation. Only for one election did I not find good information, and that being an incumbent versus a challenger I could ignore it safely.

Of 31 million who voted in the Republican Primary 38% approximately were Democrats.

There it is folks, that 70% disapproval number, yet thanks to the GOP, FOX and the Dim party, we got stuck with a leftist.
Oh. lets not forget the honorable mentions such as, Ingram, Hannity Rush and all the other sellouts.

I think we all know who the real enemies of this Nation are.

http://www.redstate.com/diary/creinstein/2016/06/25/12-million-democrats-voted-republican-primaries/
Title: Re: How Did Trump Steal The Election?
Post by: Double D on June 26, 2016, 11:06:48 AM
We have know this for some time. Sad indeed.
Title: Re: How Did Trump Steal The Election?
Post by: walkstall on June 26, 2016, 12:02:36 PM
Quote from: Double D on June 26, 2016, 11:06:48 AM
We have know this for some time. Sad indeed.

:lol:  Yes but the Left thinks it was all independent voters and Rino's voting for him.   I cannot wait until the 12M move back over and reregister as democrats again. 
Title: Re: How Did Trump Steal The Election?
Post by: Solar on June 26, 2016, 12:15:50 PM
Quote from: Yukon on June 26, 2016, 12:07:24 PM
Trump appeals to the "dark side" of people's personality. He is a racist, a bigot, and a liar. If you fit any of the three you will likely support him.
Yep, that's why he got the lib vote.
Title: Re: How Did Trump Steal The Election?
Post by: supsalemgr on June 26, 2016, 12:21:31 PM
Quote from: Yukon on June 26, 2016, 12:07:24 PM
Trump appeals to the "dark side" of people's personality. He is a racist, a bigot, and a liar. If you fit any of the three you will likely support him.

Would you please elaborate on how he is racist and a bigot?
Title: Re: How Did Trump Steal The Election?
Post by: Double D on June 26, 2016, 12:24:32 PM
Quote from: supsalemgr on June 26, 2016, 12:21:31 PM
Would you please elaborate on how he is racist and a bigot?

I noticed you didnt question the liar part...... :laugh:
Title: Re: How Did Trump Steal The Election?
Post by: walkstall on June 26, 2016, 12:44:21 PM
Quote from: supsalemgr on June 26, 2016, 12:21:31 PM
Would you please elaborate on how he is racist and a bigot?

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Title: Re: How Did Trump Steal The Election?
Post by: Possum on June 26, 2016, 12:46:25 PM
Quote from: supsalemgr on June 26, 2016, 12:21:31 PM
Would you please elaborate on how he is racist and a bigot?
pardon the but in,but I don't know if trump is a raciest, but I do think he appeals to raciest. Not necessarily the hard core "hate someone because of color" but the milder version of blaming someone else for their problems.
Title: Re: How Did Trump Steal The Election?
Post by: supsalemgr on June 26, 2016, 12:47:02 PM
Quote from: Double D on June 26, 2016, 12:24:32 PM
I noticed you didnt question the liar part...... :laugh:

It is a natural trait for ANY politician.
Title: Re: How Did Trump Steal The Election?
Post by: walkstall on June 26, 2016, 12:53:24 PM
Quote from: supsalemgr on June 26, 2016, 12:47:02 PM
It is a natural trait for ANY politician.

It's Politician 101.
Title: Re: How Did Trump Steal The Election?
Post by: miketx on June 26, 2016, 02:50:33 PM
I don't think he stole anything. I think he said more directly what people wanted to hear and most people I know are fed up with Washington and barry obastard.
Title: Re: How Did Trump Steal The Election?
Post by: Hoofer on June 26, 2016, 03:13:45 PM
Quote from: Solar on June 26, 2016, 05:34:26 AM
We all knew the truth all along, that the libs put the NY Lib in office.

There it is folks, that 70% disapproval number, yet thanks to the GOP, FOX and the Dim party, we got stuck with a leftist.
Oh. lets not forget the honorable mentions such as, Ingram, Hannity Rush and all the other sellouts.

I think we all know who the real enemies of this Nation are.

http://www.redstate.com/diary/creinstein/2016/06/25/12-million-democrats-voted-republican-primaries/

Wow - that's a big number (questionable, IMO).  Going back to the South Carolina Primary, I remember is was in the neighborhood of 26% of Trump's votes were from Democrats...  and several other primaries he was pulling LOTS of Democrat votes, I'll agree.  It was probably enough, with the republican votes split up between Rubio, Carson, Kasich & Cruz - Trump got the most votes, but not the majority - or the Republican majority.

Look at the Democrat field, an outspoken, self-identified Socialist and Mao Modeling Marxist - I'm a bit relieved even Democrats were concerned enough to say, "Nope, Neither, I'm voting Republican!", and pulled the lever for Trump...  We get stuck with him, almost by accident.

a.  Blame the Dems for allowing Hillary to run,
b.  Blame Trump for not staying in his Democrat party.
c.  Blame the Pubs for allowing Trump to run as a Republican.
Don't blame TEA and Conservatives if they don't get behind Trump, we don't want to be called the responsible party for this disaster-in-waiting.

Saying Trump stole it.... naaaa, it's bigger than that, IMO - neither party is listening to the voters.
There are 2 things voters of both parties agree upon, the party establishment is DEAF and the candidate for each party is horrible.  Blame it on the establishment machine.
Title: Re: How Did Trump Steal The Election?
Post by: Solar on June 26, 2016, 03:32:36 PM
Quote from: Hoofer on June 26, 2016, 03:13:45 PM
Wow - that's a big number (questionable, IMO).
You're right, it's much higher when you tally in all the libs that rolled over to Independent.

QuoteGoing back to the South Carolina Primary, I remember is was in the neighborhood of 26% of Trump's votes were from Democrats...  and several other primaries he was pulling LOTS of Democrat votes, I'll agree.  It was probably enough, with the republican votes split up between Rubio, Carson, Kasich & Cruz - Trump got the most votes, but not the majority - or the Republican majority.

Look at the Democrat field, an outspoken, self-identified Socialist and Mao Modeling Marxist - I'm a bit relieved even Democrats were concerned enough to say, "Nope, Neither, I'm voting Republican!", and pulled the lever for Trump...  We get stuck with him, almost by accident.

a.  Blame the Dems for allowing Hillary to run,
b.  Blame Trump for not staying in his Democrat party.
c.  Blame the Pubs for allowing Trump to run as a Republican.
Don't blame TEA and Conservatives if they don't get behind Trump, we don't want to be called the responsible party for this disaster-in-waiting.

Saying Trump stole it.... naaaa, it's bigger than that, IMO - neither party is listening to the voters.
There are 2 things voters of both parties agree upon, the party establishment is DEAF and the candidate for each party is horrible.  Blame it on the establishment machine.
True, especially when you factor in the Clinton Crime Machine, Trump needed the leftist media to pull this off, so in truth, it was the Marxists that stole the election.
The GOP isn't competent enough to even give the election away. I think FOX played a bigger part in getting the NY Libn elected.
Title: Re: How Did Trump Steal The Election?
Post by: Hoofer on June 27, 2016, 05:00:34 AM
How about is Trump trying to THROW the Election?

http://noisyroom.net/blog/2016/06/21/trumps-latest-the-art-of-losing/

Well worth the read, the author spent alot of time putting together numbers and making a case, overall a good summary of Trump's campaign.

QuoteSo, we have a candidate with a Democratic history and his children who are ostensibly running his campaign and have a Democratic history. We have a team that is imploding and what few that are on staff are being fired. Trump has spent the past few weeks doing almost everything you would do if you were trying to throw an election, from attacking a federal judge over his Mexican heritage to not building a serious ground game or actively raising the money necessary to wage a credible campaign for the presidency. He's not savaging Clinton as you would expect him to and he is not making nice with the GOP or the delegates.

Instead, he has masterfully used propaganda through Fox News, the Drudge Report, Breitbart, Gateway Pundit and others to get his message out. Whenever things die down a bit, he creates a new emergency so he can be in the headlines again. He aims his messages and speeches at his audience depending on the crowd he speaks in front of and how they feel that day.

Many good summaries, and like this forum is suggesting, Donald Trump is not a Republican, nor is Donald Trump SERIOUS about winning this election.
Title: Re: How Did Trump Steal The Election?
Post by: miketx on June 27, 2016, 05:06:10 AM
Quote from: Hoofer on June 27, 2016, 05:00:34 AM
How about is Trump trying to THROW the Election?

http://noisyroom.net/blog/2016/06/21/trumps-latest-the-art-of-losing/

Well worth the read, the author spent alot of time putting together numbers and making a case, overall a good summary of Trump's campaign.

Many good summaries, and like this forum is suggesting, Donald Trump is not a Republican, nor is Donald Trump SERIOUS about winning this election.

Yeah, that's why he's spending a fortune of his own money, right?
Title: Re: How Did Trump Steal The Election?
Post by: Solar on June 27, 2016, 06:09:28 AM
Quote from: miketx on June 27, 2016, 05:06:10 AM
Yeah, that's why he's spending a fortune of his own money, right?
Who's money is he spending?
He received more than 2 billion in free ad time by the lSM, he has spent less than a million of his own money and is now broke, and this after claiming he's a multibillionaire.
In other words, he lied, the left propped him up to steal the election and now the guy that claimed he would self fund his own election is asking for money?
Are you not seeing a pattern of deception yet? The guy is an admitted NY Lib, lied about his plan to fix the illegal problem by making them legal.
In 2010, with the rise of the Tea Party, Trump supported Democrats against conservatives.
In 2014, Donald Trump supported the Republican Establishment as it sought to crush the tea party and conservatives.
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http://theresurgent.com/in-2013-and-2014-donald-trump-was-funding-john-boehner-mitch-mcconnell-against-the-tea-party/

Or how he demonized Cruz over his wife's employment at Goldman Sachs, only to turn around and hire one of their advisors?
Trump's Finance Adviser former Goldman Sachs board member.

FEC records show that over the course of 18 years, beginning with a $500 donation to Democrat Chuck Schumer's Senate campaign in 1998, Mnuchin has made $68,300 in campaign contributions.
ighty-five percent, or $57,800 of which has gone to Democratic candidates in gubernatorial, senatorial and presidential races.

Among the Democratic candidates Trump's finance chairman has contributed to: President Obama ($4,300); former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton ($8,200); former Democratic presidential nominees John Kerry ($500) and Al Gore ($1,000); former Democratic Vice Presidential candidate John Edwards ($4,100); former Louisiana Sen. Mary Landrieu ($2,300); New York Sen. Chuck Schumer ($2,500) and former New Jersey congressional candidate Michael Wildes ($11,500).

Mnuchin also contributed $10,000 to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee in 2004.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-05-05/trump-picks-former-goldman-partner-and-soros-employee-finance-chairman
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trumps-new-finance-chairman-has-long-history-of-donating-to-dems/article/2590486
Title: Re: How Did Trump Steal The Election?
Post by: Possum on June 27, 2016, 01:21:22 PM
Quote from: miketx on June 27, 2016, 05:06:10 AM
Yeah, that's why he's spending a fortune of his own money, right?
Honest question, why do you like trump? Or rather, why are you going to vote for him and please don't say because he is not hillery.
Title: Re: How Did Trump Steal The Election?
Post by: Hoofer on June 27, 2016, 02:20:13 PM
Quote from: miketx on June 27, 2016, 05:06:10 AM
Yeah, that's why he's spending a fortune of his own money, right?

What "fortune of his own money" has he spent?  Please, do tell.   Remember, Donald Trump bragged over and over how the other candidates were blowing money on trying to win states - while he spent next-to-nothing - mocking them for wasting money.

If Donald Trump was self-funding his campaign, why is my email in-box getting stuffed with pleas for $ from Trump?  If you haven't gotten those, then you've never given to a political campaign... which would lead one to question whether or not YOU'RE SERIOUS about the election enough to put-your-money-where-your-mouth-is.  I have (Ted Cruz) - but, have you given Trump a single cent?   If one suggests Trump is a good candidate, prove it, send him some CASH.

Donald Trump reminds me of a tight-wad.  He invites you and your wife out to one of the finest restaurants, everyone has a great time, and when the waiter asks who gets the bill... we all nod in Donald's direction and he says, "Dutch!  Split it up!" ... and expects you to pick up the 15% gratuity & the bottle of Wine ... which he ordered, but didn't drink.  To really add to the embarrassment, he starts in on th wait-staff about the lousy service, bad wine, overcooked steak, rubbery lobster....  Somehow, to avoid making a scene, you manage to get stuck with the entire bill, just to get the hell out of there (alive)!   ... speaking from experience.

The guy who made self-funding and his personal wealth part of his campaign pitch - IMO can start spending his own coin... if he's serious about POTUS - which I doubt.