Quote from: ZenMode on September 05, 2023, 06:59:08 AMhe claimed that someone like Anderson Cooper would be fired for not pushing a left agenda on his show. He has provided absolutely no proof of that.

Did I even mention that Shit?
Start addressing what is written, or you and your strawman will meet the Pyre!

Quote from: Possum on September 05, 2023, 08:23:23 AMYou have repeated time after time that CNN, MSNBC lie to cater to their audience. Can they not tell the truth and cater to them? Why lie for two years on the same story? Why do they lie instead of telling the truth if it is not because of their pushing an agenda? Almost EVERYTHING you say, supports what I have posted. The bull shit starts when you try to justify their lying by saying it is for ratings.

I don't necessarily mean lying in the literal sense.  Lying by leaving out information, not covering things, or presenting things in a way that they know isn't the true picture.

 You believe that ratings and making money don't matter and that it's only about pushing an agenda.

Quote from: Solar on September 05, 2023, 06:42:15 AMHe clearly supported his claim when he showed you who own all these media Co's, they have an agenda.
Do some research, they are all aligned with Schwabs (NWO) WEF agenda. And you think they care about rating?              

Yes. It's clear they care about ratings as any business does.

Quote from: ZenMode on September 05, 2023, 11:04:43 AMI don't necessarily mean lying in the literal sense.

The russian hoax was one big damn lie for two years.

QuoteLying by leaving out information, not covering things, or presenting things in a way that they know isn't the true picture.

The way they did and are still doing with Hunter's laptop. They way they are doing by covering the border disaster. I could go on and on.

QuoteYou believe that ratings and making money don't matter and that it's only about pushing an agenda.

You figure it out, they are lying for a purpose, is that purpose to make money? Or to keep Trump out of office.

Quote from: Possum on September 05, 2023, 11:10:41 AMThe russian hoax was one big damn lie for two years.

In the end  the Mueller Report pretty much exonerated Trump, but that doesn't mean there aren't things they can talk about.  The coverage of the Pelosi/DePape situation is a good example.
There were all kinds of hypotheticals with it and Hannity/Tucker, etc talked about those. Anyone who has watched cable news knows that they talk about a TON of what-ifs.  Simply talking about something isn't "lying".  What's lying is what Fox talking heads did with Dominion/Smartmatic and CNN did with Sandman.

QuoteThe way they did and are still doing with Hunter's laptop. They way they are doing by covering the border disaster. I could go on and on.

Right.  They give attention to things their audience WANTS to hear, not what is the more important topic.

QuoteYou figure it out, they are lying for a purpose, is that purpose to make money? Or to keep Trump out of office.

Both!  The reason the MSM suppressed the Hunter story was because they didn't want to hurt Biden.  The reason the liberal cable news puts SO much attention on Trump is because their ratings/revenue/profit was all higher when they were talking about Trump.

Hannity/Watters cover the hell out of "Biden is old and senile". I see them giving token coverage to McConnell being old and freezing.  Why? Because Fox viewers WANT to hear Fox hosts trashing on Biden.

Hypothetically speaking, let's say that Hunter was using his dad's name to make all kinds of money, but only gave money to other family members and not Joe. Would you call it lying that Fox was talking about all of the evidence that pointed towards Hunter giving money to Joe? Would you call it lying that Fox was presenting all kinds of hypotheticals of the potential consequences if Joe did take money from Hunter? I wouldn't call either of those lying. I call that typical opinion news show conversation.

Quote from: ZenMode on September 05, 2023, 11:07:20 AMYes. It's clear they care about ratings as any business does.

Crony capitalism is about profits, but in the way you think it means.
Why do you think they're stealing our treasury blind in support of Ukraine/NATO/WEF/ETC? Can you say "Money Laundering"?
Remember Fried Bankman? The DNC is going down along with a shitload of RINO!

Quote from: ZenMode on September 05, 2023, 11:26:29 AMIn the end  the Mueller Report pretty much exonerated Trump, but that doesn't mean there aren't things they can talk about.

Sorry, you're wrong again, but hell, who's counting anymore. they did not "just" talk about the the Russian collusion story, they preached it as if it was fact, for two years.

QuoteThe coverage of the Pelosi/DePape situation is a good example.

That story proves my point.

QuoteThere were all kinds of hypotheticals with it and Hannity/Tucker, etc talked about those. Anyone who has watched cable news knows that they talk about a TON of what-ifs.  Simply talking about something isn't "lying".  What's lying is what Fox talking heads did with Dominion/Smartmatic and CNN did with Sandman.

We're not talking about what-ifs. We are talking about the damn lies told about Trump.

QuoteRight.  They give attention to things their audience WANTS to hear, not what is the more important topic.Both!

And what lengths do those stations go to when deciding which lies to go with. Why do you keep insisting they lie to boost ratings?

QuoteThe reason the MSM suppressed the Hunter story was because they didn't want to hurt Biden.

BINGO! It fit the agenda. Got one right. Congratulations.

QuoteThe reason the liberal cable news puts SO much attention on Trump is because their ratings/revenue/profit was all higher when they were talking about Trump.

Damn, forget what I said above. You're back to being wrong. They are not just "paying" attention to Trump, they are lying about him.

QuoteHannity/Watters cover the hell out of "Biden is old and senile". I see them giving token coverage to McConnell being old and freezing.  Why? Because Fox viewers WANT to hear Fox hosts trashing on Biden.

Wrong again, damn Zen. It would only be "talking trash" on Biden if they were making it up. Believe it or not, what they are doing is honest reporting. The people, all the people, have a right to know.

QuoteHypothetically speaking, let's say that Hunter was using his dad's name to make all kinds of money, but only gave money to other family members and not Joe.

So not only do you support the lying, I am now supposed to play along with your lying? How about we stick to the truth and the evidence, Joe got rich along with his family members selling his access.

QuoteWould you call it lying that Fox was talking about all of the evidence that pointed towards Hunter giving money to Joe?

Not when the evidence says that is what is going on. That is called reporting the truth.

QuoteWould you call it lying that Fox was presenting all kinds of hypotheticals of the potential consequences if Joe did take money from Hunter?

Again, you are using strawmen. If you are referring to a situation, list it.

QuoteI wouldn't call either of those lying. I call that typical opinion news show conversation.

No, you call lying on the air a typical opinion news show. Right now you are confusing news shows with trash like The View. But then again, you probably think The View is a real news show.

 

Quote from: ZenMode on August 31, 2023, 05:31:46 AMI've never heard of Klaus Schwab until I started reading forums like this.

BTW, the Tweet that claims to have quoted doesn't exist on the WEF Twitter account...and I can't find any video of him saying it, so.....

ZenMode-You need to read more. 

Quote from: Possum on September 05, 2023, 01:10:29 PMSorry, you're wrong again, but hell, who's counting anymore. they did not "just" talk about the the Russian collusion story, they preached it as if it was fact, for two years.

That story proves my point.

We're not talking about what-ifs. We are talking about the damn lies told about Trump.

And what lengths do those stations go to when deciding which lies to go with. Why do you keep insisting they lie to boost ratings?

BINGO! It fit the agenda. Got one right. Congratulations.

Damn, forget what I said above. You're back to being wrong. They are not just "paying" attention to Trump, they are lying about him.

Wrong again, damn Zen. It would only be "talking trash" on Biden if they were making it up. Believe it or not, what they are doing is honest reporting. The people, all the people, have a right to know.

So not only do you support the lying, I am now supposed to play along with your lying? How about we stick to the truth and the evidence, Joe got rich along with his family members selling his access.

Not when the evidence says that is what is going on. That is called reporting the truth.

Again, you are using strawmen. If you are referring to a situation, list it.

No, you call lying on the air a typical opinion news show. Right now you are confusing news shows with trash like The View. But then again, you probably think The View is a real news show.

 
Evidence is not proof that Hunter was giving money to Joe. There are documented bank transactions that show that hunters family members were wired money. There is no documented transaction that shows that Joe received money. That is a fact. However, that will not stop the conservative talking heads from discussing, hypothetically, the possibility and likelihood that Hunter was giving Joe money.

It's all about ratings and talk show hosts no how their bread gets buttered. To imply that it does not happen in both directions is the deepest of denials.

Quote from Zen,

QuoteEvidence is not proof that Hunter was giving money to Joe. There are documented bank transactions that show that hunters family members were wired money. There is no documented transaction that shows that Joe received money. That is a fact. However, that will not stop the conservative talking heads from discussing, hypothetically, the possibility and likelihood that Hunter was giving Joe money.

It's all about ratings and talk show hosts no how their bread gets buttered. To imply that it does not happen in both directions is the deepest of denials.

That has got to be joke of the year.

This rest is just your typical bull crap.

Quote from: Possum on September 06, 2023, 05:53:20 PMQuote from Zen,
That has got to be joke of the year.

This rest is just your typical bull crap.

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It actually said that?        

Quote from: Possum on September 06, 2023, 05:53:20 PMQuote from Zen,
That has got to be joke of the year.

This rest is just your typical bull crap.

It came from a guest on Ted Cruz's podcast when talking about the SARs (Suspicious Activity Reports) submitted by banks to flag Hunter's transactions. All kinds of people were getting money from Hunter, but there were no transactions putting money into Joe's account.  What appears to be true is that Hunter was directly paying Joe's bills.

But that isn't the point.....

Ever since the whistleblower(s) have come out, conservative talking heads have been ALL over it, speculating, hypothesizing, etc. There is always something to talk about and, even if Biden never received a dime from Hunter, the topic would have been discussed continually from day 1.

Quote from: ZenMode on September 07, 2023, 06:19:05 AMIt came from a guest on Ted Cruz's podcast when talking about the SARs (Suspicious Activity Reports) submitted by banks to flag Hunter's transactions. All kinds of people were getting money from Hunter, but there were no transactions putting money into Joe's account.  What appears to be true is that Hunter was directly paying Joe's bills.

But that isn't the point.....

Ever since the whistleblower(s) have come out, conservative talking heads have been ALL over it, speculating, hypothesizing, etc. There is always something to talk about and, even if Biden never received a dime from Hunter, the topic would have been discussed continually from day 1.

Funny how nobody is talking about that.     

Quote from: Possum on September 07, 2023, 11:18:54 AMFunny how nobody is talking about that.     

Duh. If you're Tucker, Hannity, Igraham, etc are you going to talk about something boring, like Hunter paying his bills, or are you going to go with what's most exciting and provocative to your viewers?

BTW, if ANY talking head had interest in the truth, they would be covering that angle because it's likely true.

The laptop — infamously abandoned at a Delaware repair shop in April 2019 — does not contain any direct evidence of such money transfers, but does show that Hunter was routinely on the hook for his father's household expenses while Joe Biden was vice president.

The expenses are spelled out in an email to Hunter from business partner Eric Schwerin from June 5, 2010, titled "JRB Bills." They concerned the upkeep of Joe Biden's palatial lakefront home in the wealthy Greenville enclave of Wilmington, Del. JRB are President Biden's initials.

There were $1,239 in repairs to an air conditioner at "mom-mom's cottage," and another $1,475 to a painter for "back wall and columns at the lake house." There was also another $2,600 for fixing up a "stone retaining wall at the lake" and $475 "for shutters."

https://nypost.com/2022/04/09/hunter-biden-frequently-covered-family-expenses-texts-reveal/

Quote from: ZenMode on September 07, 2023, 12:22:42 PMDuh. If you're Tucker, Hannity, Igraham, etc are you going to talk about something boring, like Hunter paying his bills, or are you going to go with what's most exciting and provocative to your viewers?

BTW, if ANY talking head had interest in the truth, they would be covering that angle because it's likely true.

The laptop — infamously abandoned at a Delaware repair shop in April 2019 — does not contain any direct evidence of such money transfers, but does show that Hunter was routinely on the hook for his father's household expenses while Joe Biden was vice president.

The expenses are spelled out in an email to Hunter from business partner Eric Schwerin from June 5, 2010, titled "JRB Bills." They concerned the upkeep of Joe Biden's palatial lakefront home in the wealthy Greenville enclave of Wilmington, Del. JRB are President Biden's initials.

There were $1,239 in repairs to an air conditioner at "mom-mom's cottage," and another $1,475 to a painter for "back wall and columns at the lake house." There was also another $2,600 for fixing up a "stone retaining wall at the lake" and $475 "for shutters."

https://nypost.com/2022/04/09/hunter-biden-frequently-covered-family-expenses-texts-reveal/

LOL! You used that same argument about the JABBB, until the evidence became public!
How about we wait for all the evidence?