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General Category => Political Discussion and Debate => Topic started by: clange on January 05, 2016, 07:31:26 PM

Title: Healthcare for all
Post by: clange on January 05, 2016, 07:31:26 PM
As a Christian woman who is both anti-abortion/pro-birth and pro-life, and who leans politically in the middle, I have a question to ask. I have no interest in getting into an argument, or engaging in insults, etc. How can anyone who claims they are pro-life, yet deny medical care and medicine to millions of human beings simply because they don't have enough money? Why not deny health care to the criminals in prison instead, the vicious murderers, pedophiles and rapists?

When I think of that young mother in Florida, Charlene Dill, who collapsed and died on a strangers floor while working one of her three jobs selling vacuum cleaners, leaving three little children motherless, it turns my stomach. This is no different than the pro-abortion crowd. Conservatives have completely and effectively destroyed the pro-life cause. I know I will not give one more dime.
Title: Re: Healthcare for all
Post by: Solar on January 05, 2016, 07:38:51 PM
Quote from: clange on January 05, 2016, 07:31:26 PM
As a Christian woman who is both anti-abortion/pro-birth and pro-life, and who leans politically in the middle, I have a question to ask. I have no interest in getting into an argument, or engaging in insults, etc. How can anyone who claims they are pro-life, yet deny medical care and medicine to millions of human beings simply because they don't have enough money? Why not deny health care to the criminals in prison instead, the vicious murderers, pedophiles and rapists?

When I think of that young mother in Florida, Charlene Dill, who collapsed and died on a strangers floor while working one of her three jobs selling vacuum cleaners, leaving three little children motherless, it turns my stomach. This is no different than the pro-abortion crowd. Conservatives have completely and effectively destroyed the pro-life cause. I know I will not give one more dime.
Can you provide a link to your claim?
Title: Re: Healthcare for all
Post by: walkstall on January 05, 2016, 07:52:43 PM
Quote from: clange on January 05, 2016, 07:31:26 PM
As a Christian woman who is both anti-abortion/pro-birth and pro-life, and who leans politically in the middle, I have a question to ask. I have no interest in getting into an argument, or engaging in insults, etc. How can anyone who claims they are pro-life, yet deny medical care and medicine to millions of human beings simply because they don't have enough money? Why not deny health care to the criminals in prison instead, the vicious murderers, pedophiles and rapists?

When I think of that young mother in Florida, Charlene Dill, who collapsed and died on a strangers floor while working one of her three jobs selling vacuum cleaners, leaving three little children motherless, it turns my stomach. This is no different than the pro-abortion crowd. Conservatives have completely and effectively destroyed the pro-life cause. I know I will not give one more dime.

So she did not hear of ER rooms?   Taxpayer pay Millions Dollars for ER rooms.  My insurance was to go down by 2.500$ a year, also my wife's.  Yet now we are paying out over 3000.00$ more each year.  Each year our insurance is canceled and we have to find new insurance each year that cost even more. 
Title: Re: Healthcare for all
Post by: Solar on January 05, 2016, 08:08:18 PM
Quote from: walkstall on January 05, 2016, 07:52:43 PM
So she did not hear of ER rooms?   Taxpayer pay Millions Dollars for ER rooms.  My insurance was to go down by 2.500$ a year, also my wife's.  Yet now we are paying out over 3000.00$ more each year.  Each year our insurance is canceled and we have to find new insurance each year that cost even more.
She's another driveby lib troll that has no interest in the truth.

http://dailycaller.com/2014/04/18/bedford-did-conservatives-murder-charlene-dill-and-other-scary-stories/
Title: Re: Healthcare for all
Post by: Cryptic Bert on January 05, 2016, 08:11:36 PM
Quote from: clange on January 05, 2016, 07:31:26 PM
As a Christian woman who is both anti-abortion/pro-birth and pro-life, and who leans politically in the middle, I have a question to ask. I have no interest in getting into an argument, or engaging in insults, etc. How can anyone who claims they are pro-life, yet deny medical care and medicine to millions of human beings simply because they don't have enough money? Why not deny health care to the criminals in prison instead, the vicious murderers, pedophiles and rapists?

When I think of that young mother in Florida, Charlene Dill, who collapsed and died on a strangers floor while working one of her three jobs selling vacuum cleaners, leaving three little children motherless, it turns my stomach. This is no different than the pro-abortion crowd. Conservatives have completely and effectively destroyed the pro-life cause. I know I will not give one more dime.

Who has been denied anything? Be specific.
Title: Re: Healthcare for all
Post by: walkstall on January 05, 2016, 08:21:56 PM
Quote from: Solar on January 05, 2016, 08:08:18 PM
She's another driveby lib troll that has no interest in the truth.

http://dailycaller.com/2014/04/18/bedford-did-conservatives-murder-charlene-dill-and-other-scary-stories/


â—¾Why do many, if not all, of the stories fail to mention that the state of Florida has a program to help people who are ill and uninsured, but whose income falls above Medicaid's eligibility levels? If Dill had a life-threatening condition that could have been fixed with medication, and could not afford to pay for the drug or drugs herself, did she apply for help from this program?


â—¾Pharmaceutical companies have programs to help low-income people receive medications they otherwise cannot afford. Did Dill apply for help from this source, from charities, from other family members or elsewhere?
Title: Re: Healthcare for all
Post by: Cryptic Bert on January 05, 2016, 10:29:21 PM
If we really break the ACA down all it has done is expand medicare. We didn't need the ACA to do that.
Title: Re: Healthcare for all
Post by: Chosen Daughter on January 05, 2016, 11:53:04 PM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on January 05, 2016, 10:29:21 PM
If we really break the ACA down all it has done is expand medicare. We didn't need the ACA to do that.

Huh? healthcare for all.  Only if you can afford it.
Title: Re: Healthcare for all
Post by: taxed on January 06, 2016, 12:28:01 AM
Quote from: clange on January 05, 2016, 07:31:26 PM
As a Christian woman who is both anti-abortion/pro-birth and pro-life, and who leans politically in the middle, I have a question to ask. I have no interest in getting into an argument, or engaging in insults, etc. How can anyone who claims they are pro-life, yet deny medical care and medicine to millions of human beings simply because they don't have enough money? Why not deny health care to the criminals in prison instead, the vicious murderers, pedophiles and rapists?

When I think of that young mother in Florida, Charlene Dill, who collapsed and died on a strangers floor while working one of her three jobs selling vacuum cleaners, leaving three little children motherless, it turns my stomach. This is no different than the pro-abortion crowd. Conservatives have completely and effectively destroyed the pro-life cause. I know I will not give one more dime.

We need to post a message about making sure these people take their medication before posting...
Title: Re: Healthcare for all
Post by: tac on January 06, 2016, 04:43:41 AM
I see the trolls are still out of school.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Healthcare for all
Post by: walkstall on January 06, 2016, 07:48:17 AM
Quote from: Chosen Daughter on January 05, 2016, 11:53:04 PM
Huh? healthcare for all.  Only if you can afford it.


Only if the working class can afford it!
Title: Re: Healthcare for all
Post by: kroz on January 06, 2016, 08:06:35 AM
Quote from: clange on January 05, 2016, 07:31:26 PM
As a Christian woman who is both anti-abortion/pro-birth and pro-life, and who leans politically in the middle, I have a question to ask. I have no interest in getting into an argument, or engaging in insults, etc. How can anyone who claims they are pro-life, yet deny medical care and medicine to millions of human beings simply because they don't have enough money? Why not deny health care to the criminals in prison instead, the vicious murderers, pedophiles and rapists?

When I think of that young mother in Florida, Charlene Dill, who collapsed and died on a strangers floor while working one of her three jobs selling vacuum cleaners, leaving three little children motherless, it turns my stomach. This is no different than the pro-abortion crowd. Conservatives have completely and effectively destroyed the pro-life cause. I know I will not give one more dime.

Have you ever read the U.S. Constitution?

It certainly does not sound like you are acquainted with it at all.

You are promoting socialism.  Did you realize that?
Title: Re: Healthcare for all
Post by: Solar on January 06, 2016, 08:13:59 AM
Quote from: kroz on January 06, 2016, 08:06:35 AM
Have you ever read the U.S. Constitution?

It certainly does not sound like you are acquainted with it at all.

You are promoting socialism.  Did you realize that?
Laws get in the way of emotional leftist rants. :biggrin:
Title: Re: Healthcare for all
Post by: Voldemort on January 06, 2016, 08:23:38 AM
Quote from: clange on January 05, 2016, 07:31:26 PM
As a Christian woman who is both anti-abortion/pro-birth and pro-life, and who leans politically in the middle, I have a question to ask. I have no interest in getting into an argument, or engaging in insults, etc. How can anyone who claims they are pro-life, yet deny medical care and medicine to millions of human beings simply because they don't have enough money? Why not deny health care to the criminals in prison instead, the vicious murderers, pedophiles and rapists?

When I think of that young mother in Florida, Charlene Dill, who collapsed and died on a strangers floor while working one of her three jobs selling vacuum cleaners, leaving three little children motherless, it turns my stomach. This is no different than the pro-abortion crowd. Conservatives have completely and effectively destroyed the pro-life cause. I know I will not give one more dime.

I work in the Health Care industry as a courier transporting blood specimines, medical supplies, etc from one hospital to another. I've been in the ER of just about every major hospital in Northern Utah. Posted prominantly in everyone of those ER is the following in both English and Spanish. (oddly it is not in Japanese, Chinese or any other Asian language).

It starts out stating that "IT IS THE LAW..." and continues to say that medical care will be provided to all who ask for it regardless of insurance coverage, ability to pay or immigration status!

You're lying!