Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on August 01, 2012, 12:21:19 PM
How is it a strawman?  It's a fact that the most basic, self evident regulatory and welfare acts, that even fanatical reactionaries like yourself support, were once fiercely contested by your conservative ancestors.

Vilifying the majority that believed in the principles of the Founders is a strawman approach, it was the Govt that forced change.

QuoteMaybe so, but you have no problem with vilifying Obama for making you wear a seatbelt.  I wasn't around, but I'm fairly certain you never called Bush a "socialist monkey" for spying on American citizens and detaining "suspected terrorists" indefinitely without trial or bail.

Those are Jas' words, but yes he is a socialist monkey for his social policies as well as his emotional move in setting up the PA.

QuoteIt's similar to Bill O'Reilly, who criticizes Common for writing a song supporting a convicted criminal, yet ignores the numerous white artists who have done the same, multiple times.   

Oh Jeeezus, bills an idiot and does not represent the right.

QuoteNot at all.  Nor do I like the conservative double standard of claiming "fiscal responsibility", and then spending 900 billion dollars on a war overseas.

Hello!!!! How many times do I have to tell you, Bush is not a Conservative?

I suppose you supported Hussein's green energy movement?

Sci Fi's TODO list from today:

1 - Wake up.
2 - Brush teeth.
3 - Log onto CPF.
4 - Fail miserably.

Quote from: taxed on August 01, 2012, 12:49:08 PM
Sci Fi's TODO list from today:

1 - Wake up.
2 - Brush teeth.
3 - Log onto CPF.
4 - Fail miserably.

I guess mom just called him up from the basement for Spagetti-Os' otherwise he'd be banging away on the keyboard....or something?

Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on July 30, 2012, 01:54:20 PM
Wait, the polio vaccine and the moon landing were achieved through heavy government funding, and the video celebrates social welfare, so Romney wouldn't like this ad at all.

"it would be nice to hear a heartfelt thank you from the rest of the world for all we've done"

Maybe humility will improve international opinion of the United States.  We've done a lot for the world in the past, but killing >100,000 men, women and children isn't one of them.

The video does not "endorse" or "celebrate" social welfare or irresponsible government spending.  It simply points out that, despite the left's rhetoric that America and free market capitalism are greedy and selfish, in fact America is very generous in helping others via programs supported by $$ trillions paid in taxes, private giving, foreign aid, and immeasurable sacrifices in battle for our own and other people's freedom around the world.

The world needs more American ideals and leadership, not American humility.  Do you really think the world would be a better place without America's influence and example in the last 230+ years?  Or without it's influence and leadership today?