Quote from: midcan5 on April 29, 2021, 03:40:25 PM
Owebo, I am an independent, Uncle Sam's air force was the only club I joined. You guys can call me whatever names you like, it doesn't mean anything.

Solar,  I served this nation during Vietnam. Pay my taxes too, often top rate. My side? Not sure what that is?

T Hunt, I've been online since the infancy of the Internet and have commented on this effort of breaking up replies. Interesting tactic. But it reminds me of a schoolmarm writing on your composition paper. And if you don't care about a specific item do I need to know?  No.

Leftism is evil, not sure what that means or even is, disagree too your other assumptions as I'd need to know more. Labeling means little. Hate is easy, thought harder. Examples help. Specifics please. Oh and socialism works well in Finland etc.

Trump proved media was fake? He did, how exactly did he do that, tell us and I want solid references. You know what the DI said about opinions. 'Facts just the facts ma'ma.' Sgt. Friday.

I'm not going to assume what CS Lewis would think of America today but I would doubt he'd think the hatred regarding party and immigrants and minorities very Christian. That's just me. Like his quotes.


"Literature adds to reality, it does not simply describe it. It enriches the necessary competencies that daily life requires and provides; and in this respect, it irrigates the deserts that our lives have already become." C. S. Lewis

"The task of the modern educator is not to cut down jungles, but to irrigate deserts." C. S. Lewis

"Let's pray that the human race never escapes from Earth to spread its iniquity elsewhere." C. S. Lewis

Socalism doesn't work well in Finland or anywhere else it or any forn of collective bullshit has ever been tried.
When was the last time you were ever in Finland? I used to go every two months and have been all over that country.

Quote from: midcan5 on April 26, 2021, 04:51:18 AM
This is interesting. What do you think?

"Don't sit quietly and surrender one of America's great political parties."

'GOP Democracy Report Card'  'Which Republicans supported American democracy when it needed it?'

https://accountability.gop/report-card/


"First, democracy is more than holding elections; it requires the development of civil society, meaning such complex and counterintuitive institutions as the rule of law, an independent judiciary, multiple political parties, minority rights, voluntary associations, freedom of expression, movement, and assembly. Democracy is a learned habit, not an instinctive one, that requires deep attitudinal changes such as a culture of restraint, a commonality of values, a respect for differences of view, the concept of loyal opposition, and a sense of civic responsibility." Daniel Pipes

Still waiting for an explanation for this bull shit!

Quote from: midcan5 on April 29, 2021, 03:40:25 PM

T Hunt, I've been online since the infancy of the Internet and have commented on this effort of breaking up replies. Interesting tactic. But it reminds me of a schoolmarm writing on your composition paper.

Sorry that being efficient triggers you...

QuoteAnd if you don't care about a specific item do I need to know?  No.

Again, sorry you get triggered so easily.

QuoteLeftism is evil, not sure what that means or even is, disagree too your other assumptions as I'd need to know more. Labeling means little. Hate is easy, thought harder. Examples help. Specifics please.

If hate is easy then why does the left hate so much? How come all violence and hate exists ONLY on the left? How come you cant show me any examples of right wing violence?

QuoteOh and socialism works well in Finland etc.

Then how come it failed in finland and everywhere else it was tried?

QuoteTrump proved media was fake? He did, how exactly did he do that, tell us and I want solid references. You know what the DI said about opinions. 'Facts just the facts ma'ma.' Sgt. Friday.

Sure, just look at the entire russian collusion delusion.
Now we have the email conversations between obama, clinton, and biden literally making it up and using the media to push the propaganda.
Despite zero evidence that trump colluded with russia the media helped the dem party push that made up myth.
That is more than enough proof that the media is the enemy of america.

QuoteI'm not going to assume what CS Lewis would think of America today

Its not hard to know what he believed as he was a christian, and you cannot be a christian and a democrat leftists.
The leftist philosophy is anti christian and anti western culture.

Quotebut I would doubt he'd think the hatred regarding party and immigrants and minorities very Christian. That's just me. Like his quotes.

So you agree that he would be against the left, since they hate immigrants and minorities and arent very christian.
Unless you are saying the right does that, in which case you will have to prove it or retract your statement...

Quote from: midcan5 on April 29, 2021, 03:40:25 PM
Trump proved media was fake? He did, how exactly did he do that, tell us and I want solid references. You know what the DI said about opinions. 'Facts just the facts ma'ma.' Sgt. Friday.

Heres more proof...
https://www.projectveritas.com/news/update-new-york-times-forced-to-answer-veritass-defamation-lawsuit-nyt/

QuoteNew York Times FORCED to Answer Veritas's Defamation Lawsuit – NYT Admits They Did Not Contact Veritas's Named Sources for Comment; Admits Astor Article WRONG About MN Law; Claims Articles Are Opinion While Admitting Reporters Not Opinion Writers

T HUnt,  I don't consider James Edward O'Keefe III a reliable source of information but nice try. Give me some sources that can be trusted. Thanks.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/project-veritas/

Earlier comment reply:

Finland was again voted most happy. One must recognize a simple fact of life, we see the world as we are not as it is. I'd like to get to Finland some day, ancestors came from that area per DNA. But I must acknowledge on further study, it is not socialism but a better run social capitalism.

https://www.businessinsider.com/finland-has-capitalist-economy-why-are-finns-so-much-happier-2020-2

Solar, Explanation?  That report card is from conservative republicans rating other republicans based on their values concerning the presidential election and subsequent insurrection. I give them great credit as they spoke out, too many just follow today.

T Hunt, I don't consider it efficient I consider it clutter. It reminds me too of interrogation techniques, each answer becomes another question. I don't see hate from this left you imagine. BLM protests etc were peaceful compared to the Jan 6Th white supremacists. That is fact.

https://www.newsweek.com/hate-crimes-under-trump-surged-nearly-20-percent-says-fbi-report-1547870

Russia collusion is well documented, if you doubt read a book that will give you lots of detail. 'Hiding in Plain Sight: The Invention of Donald Trump and the Erosion of America'.  I know you won't read it, but maybe others will. This article covers the collusion as well:

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/08/bipartisan-senate-report-shows-2016-trump-russia-collusion.html

Trump proved nothing as you gave me no supporting reference. Proof please. I'm not sure what leftist means to you but modern so called religious conservatives are not very religious given their support of Trump who made the mess at our border and preached hate from the moment he aspired to be president. You do remember his words.

Regarding Lewis and Christianity, this article is interesting for readers who like to dig down.

https://www.currentaffairs.org/2020/09/was-jesus-a-socialist

PS T,  Nothing fazes me, been there done that etc etc.... But if you want to learn read the book. Bet you can't. It would be like the devil bathing in holy water.

Quote from: midcan5 on April 30, 2021, 02:34:13 PM
T HUnt,  I don't consider James Edward O'Keefe III a reliable source of information but nice try. Give me some sources that can be trusted. Thanks.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/project-veritas/

Earlier comment reply:

Finland was again voted most happy. One must recognize a simple fact of life, we see the world as we are not as it is. I'd like to get to Finland some day, ancestors came from that area per DNA. But I must acknowledge on further study, it is not socialism but a better run social capitalism.

https://www.businessinsider.com/finland-has-capitalist-economy-why-are-finns-so-much-happier-2020-2

Solar, Explanation?  That report card is from conservative republicans rating other republicans based on their values concerning the presidential election and subsequent insurrection. I give them great credit as they spoke out, too many just follow today.

T Hunt, I don't consider it efficient I consider it clutter. It reminds me too of interrogation techniques, each answer becomes another question. I don't see hate from this left you imagine. BLM protests etc were peaceful compared to the Jan 6Th white supremacists. That is fact.

https://www.newsweek.com/hate-crimes-under-trump-surged-nearly-20-percent-says-fbi-report-1547870

Russia collusion is well documented, if you doubt read a book that will give you lots of detail. 'Hiding in Plain Sight: The Invention of Donald Trump and the Erosion of America'.  I know you won't read it, but maybe others will. This article covers the collusion as well:

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/08/bipartisan-senate-report-shows-2016-trump-russia-collusion.html

Trump proved nothing as you gave me no supporting reference. Proof please. I'm not sure what leftist means to you but modern so called religious conservatives are not very religious given their support of Trump who made the mess at our border and preached hate from the moment he aspired to be president. You do remember his words.

Regarding Lewis and Christianity, this article is interesting for readers who like to dig down.

https://www.currentaffairs.org/2020/09/was-jesus-a-socialist

PS T,  Nothing fazes me, been there done that etc etc.... But if you want to learn read the book. Bet you can't. It would be like the devil bathing in holy water.

More bull shit from the lying lib. You know good and well O'Keefe caught all these libs telling the truth on video, then you post a link to a lying leftist site?
Son, you've lost all credibility here, so maybe it's time for you to move on, you outed yourself for the lying Marxist you are.

Quote from: midcan5 on April 30, 2021, 02:34:13 PM
T HUnt,  I don't consider James Edward O'Keefe III a reliable source of information but nice try. Give me some sources that can be trusted. Thanks.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/project-veritas/

Earlier comment reply:

Finland was again voted most happy. One must recognize a simple fact of life, we see the world as we are not as it is. I'd like to get to Finland some day, ancestors came from that area per DNA. But I must acknowledge on further study, it is not socialism but a better run social capitalism.

https://www.businessinsider.com/finland-has-capitalist-economy-why-are-finns-so-much-happier-2020-2

Solar, Explanation?  That report card is from conservative republicans rating other republicans based on their values concerning the presidential election and subsequent insurrection. I give them great credit as they spoke out, too many just follow today.

T Hunt, I don't consider it efficient I consider it clutter. It reminds me too of interrogation techniques, each answer becomes another question. I don't see hate from this left you imagine. BLM protests etc were peaceful compared to the Jan 6Th white supremacists. That is fact.

https://www.newsweek.com/hate-crimes-under-trump-surged-nearly-20-percent-says-fbi-report-1547870

Russia collusion is well documented, if you doubt read a book that will give you lots of detail. 'Hiding in Plain Sight: The Invention of Donald Trump and the Erosion of America'.  I know you won't read it, but maybe others will. This article covers the collusion as well:

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/08/bipartisan-senate-report-shows-2016-trump-russia-collusion.html

Trump proved nothing as you gave me no supporting reference. Proof please. I'm not sure what leftist means to you but modern so called religious conservatives are not very religious given their support of Trump who made the mess at our border and preached hate from the moment he aspired to be president. You do remember his words.

Regarding Lewis and Christianity, this article is interesting for readers who like to dig down.

https://www.currentaffairs.org/2020/09/was-jesus-a-socialist

PS T,  Nothing fazes me, been there done that etc etc.... But if you want to learn read the book. Bet you can't. It would be like the devil bathing in holy water.

Well, if that is a fact, what was burned down on Jan. 6th? What stores were looted? Were any weapons displayed?

Quote from: midcan5 on April 30, 2021, 02:34:13 PM
T HUnt,  I don't consider James Edward O'Keefe III a reliable source of information but nice try. Give me some sources that can be trusted. Thanks.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/project-veritas/

So you dont trust right wing sources but you do trust left wing sources. Despite the fact that the right is morally superior to the left? Despite the fact that the left has a track record of manipulation and propaganda?
So you dont consider anyone on the right trustworthy, proving you have Conservative Derangement Syndrome. Might wanna get that looked at...

QuoteEarlier comment reply:

Finland was again voted most happy. One must recognize a simple fact of life, we see the world as we are not as it is. I'd like to get to Finland some day, ancestors came from that area per DNA. But I must acknowledge on further study, it is not socialism but a better run social capitalism.

https://www.businessinsider.com/finland-has-capitalist-economy-why-are-finns-so-much-happier-2020-2

Happiness is not an objective standard by which to measure. By any objective standard america is superior in every major way.
No I do not see the world as I am, that is what the left does. The right sees the world as it is.

QuoteT Hunt, I don't consider it efficient I consider it clutter. It reminds me too of interrogation techniques, each answer becomes another question.

So you hate it because it works to expose you, LOL, srry but you will be answered tit for tat, despite you hating how effective that is.

QuoteI don't see hate from this left you imagine.

You mean the deepstate which just stole an  election and made up the russiagate hoax and the covid hoax? Thanks for admitting you are living in a bubble, LOL

QuoteBLM protests etc were peaceful compared to the Jan 6Th white supremacists. That is fact.

LOL since thats a fairytale, now you will have to provide evidence for that or you will have to retract that statement. Not allowed to spread lies on here...

Quotehttps://www.newsweek.com/hate-crimes-under-trump-surged-nearly-20-percent-says-fbi-report-1547870

The same FBI that got caught illegally spying on trump and then illegally opening an investigation into him without evidence? That FBI?

QuoteRussia collusion is well documented, if you doubt read a book that will give you lots of detail. 'Hiding in Plain Sight: The Invention of Donald Trump and the Erosion of America'.  I know you won't read it, but maybe others will. This article covers the collusion as well:

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/08/bipartisan-senate-report-shows-2016-trump-russia-collusion.html

But what about all the emails written by obama where he literally makes up russian collusion and admits there is no evidence? Srry dear, but that proves it was made up and the article you shared is just fake news. Just the facts ma'am, LOL

QuoteTrump proved nothing as you gave me no supporting reference. Proof please.

Yes he did, you are still ignoring all the conversations released where obama admits there is no evidence of collusion and they just made it up. Did you miss last summer when all that came out? I thought you were informed...
If not then search this forum, its all on here, we documented it well at the time. Come back when you are an adult you can inform themselves instead of demanding info be spoon fed to you.

QuoteI'm not sure what leftist means to you but modern so called religious conservatives are not very religious given their support of Trump who made the mess at our border and preached hate from the moment he aspired to be president. You do remember his words.

Again, since that didnt happen, you will have to prove that trump did that or you will get a time out. Proof please, LOL

QuoteRegarding Lewis and Christianity, this article is interesting for readers who like to dig down.

https://www.currentaffairs.org/2020/09/was-jesus-a-socialist

This tired old argument? Have you nothing new???
No srry Jesus was not a socialist in any way shape or form. Here is a simple passage where Jesus spits on the idea of socialism,
"He who shall not work, shall not eat." 2Th 3:10

QuotePS T,  Nothing fazes me, been there done that etc etc.... But if you want to learn read the book. Bet you can't. It would be like the devil bathing in holy water.

No ones trying to faze you, you are doing a fine job of that to yourself. We just want you to realize that you are a parrot for the deepstate and stop spreading their lies without evidence.
Based on how uninformed you are regarding most things in the world, it seems Ive done more reading already then you will your entire life.
Keep trying tho...

Quote from: midcan5 on April 30, 2021, 02:34:13 PM
T HUnt,  I don't consider James Edward O'Keefe III a reliable source of information but nice try. Give me some sources that can be trusted. Thanks.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/project-veritas/

Earlier comment reply:

Finland was again voted most happy. One must recognize a simple fact of life, we see the world as we are not as it is. I'd like to get to Finland some day, ancestors came from that area per DNA. But I must acknowledge on further study, it is not socialism but a better run social capitalism.

https://www.businessinsider.com/finland-has-capitalist-economy-why-are-finns-so-much-happier-2020-2

Solar, Explanation?  That report card is from conservative republicans rating other republicans based on their values concerning the presidential election and subsequent insurrection. I give them great credit as they spoke out, too many just follow today.

T Hunt, I don't consider it efficient I consider it clutter. It reminds me too of interrogation techniques, each answer becomes another question. I don't see hate from this left you imagine. BLM protests etc were peaceful compared to the Jan 6Th white supremacists. That is fact.

https://www.newsweek.com/hate-crimes-under-trump-surged-nearly-20-percent-says-fbi-report-1547870

Russia collusion is well documented, if you doubt read a book that will give you lots of detail. 'Hiding in Plain Sight: The Invention of Donald Trump and the Erosion of America'.  I know you won't read it, but maybe others will. This article covers the collusion as well:

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/08/bipartisan-senate-report-shows-2016-trump-russia-collusion.html

Trump proved nothing as you gave me no supporting reference. Proof please. I'm not sure what leftist means to you but modern so called religious conservatives are not very religious given their support of Trump who made the mess at our border and preached hate from the moment he aspired to be president. You do remember his words.

Regarding Lewis and Christianity, this article is interesting for readers who like to dig down.

https://www.currentaffairs.org/2020/09/was-jesus-a-socialist

PS T,  Nothing fazes me, been there done that etc etc.... But if you want to learn read the book. Bet you can't. It would be like the devil bathing in holy water.

Oh my, you're the perfect liberal...an uneducated idiot....

Do you smoke dope too?  Just curious...

Quote from: Owebo on April 30, 2021, 03:45:09 PM
Oh my, you're the perfect liberal...an uneducated idiot....

Do you smoke dope too?  Just curious...

Nah, oxygen deprived at birth and dropped on his head to restart his heart. Backwoods Canadian doctors practicing the old ways.

Liberalism/leftist/marxism is a mental disorder.  Fortunately there aren't that many of them.  They blather and grunt, come up with one pathetic excuse after the next trying to make a point.  Why?  I'm not sure.  There is no conviction, no loyalty except to the prevailing wind.

When asked for facts to bolster our opinions and after giving such, they resort to "ya but" or "that isn't reliable" in their opinion.  You have to ask yourself why in the face of the mounting evidence that brain death is very common among these people, should they be allowed to vote?  The ability to reason ends up like a pretzel, round and round until tied up into a knot that can't be undone.

Finland is an example of socialism that works?  Really?  Brain death.  You know, I'll bet ol midcan5 being the socialist that he is, doesn't send extra money to the IRS just to claim smugness.  Chairman Xiden and Satan's Whore would love this guy.  He yammers on, talks in riddles, thinks he's the brightest bulb in the room and after all is said and done, he's offered nothing of substance.

Reality is a bitch, we get it.  But really, trying to defend the crap in DC?  He should realize we hate RINO's as much as marxist.

The founding documents: learn it, live it, love it.  Otherwise you have no value to the nation.

Thanks all for your input. Hopefully some consideration and thought came from this thread's dialogue and the conservative republican's report card.

Busy Sunday for us, how about you folk?  Grandson's team lost in the Flag football. And there is always work around the house even on Sundays. Hope you all are doing well and enjoying the Spring weather.  With things opening up I am hoping we can hit the road again.  Backroad America is my favorite place to be.  Maybe I'll see you there.

"To compare life to a road can indeed be fruitful in many ways, but we must consider how life is unlike a road. In a physical sense a road is an external actuality, no matter whether anyone is walking on it or not, no matter how the individual travels on it-the road is the road. But in the spiritual sense, the road comes into existence only when we walk on it. That is, the road is how it is walked."

Soren Kierkegaard, 'Provocations'

Quote from: midcan5 on May 02, 2021, 02:37:45 PM
Thanks all for your input. Hopefully some consideration and thought came from this thread's dialogue and the conservative republican's report card.

Busy Sunday for us, how about you folk?  Grandson's team lost in the Flag football. And there is always work around the house even on Sundays. Hope you all are doing well and enjoying the Spring weather.  With things opening up I am hoping we can hit the road again.  Backroad America is my favorite place to be.  Maybe I'll see you there.

"To compare life to a road can indeed be fruitful in many ways, but we must consider how life is unlike a road. In a physical sense a road is an external actuality, no matter whether anyone is walking on it or not, no matter how the individual travels on it-the road is the road. But in the spiritual sense, the road comes into existence only when we walk on it. That is, the road is how it is walked."

Soren Kierkegaard, 'Provocations'

We'll look for the 'Yes We Can' and believe bumper stickers on your Prius.....

Quote from: midcan5 on May 02, 2021, 02:37:45 PM
Thanks all for your input. Hopefully some consideration and thought came from this thread's dialogue and the conservative republican's report card.

Busy Sunday for us, how about you folk?  Grandson's team lost in the Flag football. And there is always work around the house even on Sundays. Hope you all are doing well and enjoying the Spring weather.  With things opening up I am hoping we can hit the road again.  Backroad America is my favorite place to be.  Maybe I'll see you there.

"To compare life to a road can indeed be fruitful in many ways, but we must consider how life is unlike a road. In a physical sense a road is an external actuality, no matter whether anyone is walking on it or not, no matter how the individual travels on it-the road is the road. But in the spiritual sense, the road comes into existence only when we walk on it. That is, the road is how it is walked."

Soren Kierkegaard, 'Provocations'

Well I spent a day looking for fishing high-wader, as I have to read all your BS you post.  And no I do not "compare life to a road," as "fruitful."  I know a road is in existence even if I don't walk on it.  If I am looking for "spiritual sense" I will walk my 380 acre of land that God made and talk with God. 

Quote from: walkstall on May 02, 2021, 06:05:24 PM
Well I spent a day looking for fishing high-wader, as I have to read all your BS you post.  And no I do not "compare life to a road," as "fruitful."  I know a road is in existence even if I don't walk on it.  If I am looking for "spiritual sense" I will walk my 380 acre of land that God made and talk with God.

Amen