This is interesting. What do you think?
"Don't sit quietly and surrender one of America's great political parties."
'GOP Democracy Report Card' 'Which Republicans supported American democracy when it needed it?'
https://accountability.gop/report-card/
"First, democracy is more than holding elections; it requires the development of civil society, meaning such complex and counterintuitive institutions as the rule of law, an independent judiciary, multiple political parties, minority rights, voluntary associations, freedom of expression, movement, and assembly. Democracy is a learned habit, not an instinctive one, that requires deep attitudinal changes such as a culture of restraint, a commonality of values, a respect for differences of view, the concept of loyal opposition, and a sense of civic responsibility." Daniel Pipes
Quote from: midcan5 on April 26, 2021, 04:51:18 AM
This is interesting. What do you think?
"Don't sit quietly and surrender one of America's great political parties."
'GOP Democracy Report Card' 'Which Republicans supported American democracy when it needed it?'
https://accountability.gop/report-card/
"First, democracy is more than holding elections; it requires the development of civil society, meaning such complex and counterintuitive institutions as the rule of law, an independent judiciary, multiple political parties, minority rights, voluntary associations, freedom of expression, movement, and assembly. Democracy is a learned habit, not an instinctive one, that requires deep attitudinal changes such as a culture of restraint, a commonality of values, a respect for differences of view, the concept of loyal opposition, and a sense of civic responsibility." Daniel Pipes
Wait....What.............what happened to our "Republic"........ :popcorn:
Now, do one that actually reflects the fact that we're a Republic, not your commie democracy bull shit! in the first place!
Now, since you opened this can of worms, you're going to eat each and everyone!
Pick a name, any name from your party, we grade based on the Constitution, not feelings or how well a pol aligns with CCP demands, but the actual Constitution. We're going to grade your party's membership based on their voting record vs the Constitution!
Why do you hate our Republic, why do you hate the Bill of Rights, and most importantly, why do you hate individual Freedom and Liberty?
https://libertyscore.conservativereview.com/
Kristi Noem!!
Quote from: midcan5 on April 26, 2021, 04:51:18 AM
This is interesting. What do you think?
"Don't sit quietly and surrender one of America's great political parties."
'GOP Democracy Report Card' 'Which Republicans supported American democracy when it needed it?'
https://accountability.gop/report-card/
"First, democracy is more than holding elections; it requires the development of civil society, meaning such complex and counterintuitive institutions as the rule of law, an independent judiciary, multiple political parties, minority rights, voluntary associations, freedom of expression, movement, and assembly. Democracy is a learned habit, not an instinctive one, that requires deep attitudinal changes such as a culture of restraint, a commonality of values, a respect for differences of view, the concept of loyal opposition, and a sense of civic responsibility." Daniel Pipes
If you think you can ignore my demands, you are in for a huge fuckin shock! Don't play games, you started this shit, you own it!
Quote from: Bronx on April 26, 2021, 05:08:31 AM
Wait....What.............what happened to our "Republic"........ :popcorn:
Democrats happened to it....lol
Quote from: Solar on April 26, 2021, 07:16:00 AM
If you think you can ignore my demands, you are in for a huge fuckin shock! Don't play games, you started this shit, you own it!
Remember midcan5 had been on moderated before.
Quote from: walkstall on April 26, 2021, 07:30:29 AM
Remember midcan5 had been on moderated before.
Shit! I posted that earlier, that he'd be back on moderation if he didn't stop this silly trolling. I guess it didn't post.
Well, it did now. :biggrin:
Quote from: midcan5 on April 26, 2021, 04:51:18 AM
This is interesting. What do you think?
"Don't sit quietly and surrender one of America's great political parties."
'GOP Democracy Report Card' 'Which Republicans supported American democracy when it needed it?'
https://accountability.gop/report-card/
"First, democracy is more than holding elections; it requires the development of civil society, meaning such complex and counterintuitive institutions as the rule of law, an independent judiciary, multiple political parties, minority rights, voluntary associations, freedom of expression, movement, and assembly. Democracy is a learned habit, not an instinctive one, that requires deep attitudinal changes such as a culture of restraint, a commonality of values, a respect for differences of view, the concept of loyal opposition, and a sense of civic responsibility." Daniel Pipes
So why are dems unable to follow the law then?
Quote from: midcan5 on April 26, 2021, 04:51:18 AM
This is interesting. What do you think?
"Don't sit quietly and surrender one of America's great political parties."
'GOP Democracy Report Card' 'Which Republicans supported American democracy when it needed it?'
https://accountability.gop/report-card/
"First, democracy is more than holding elections; it requires the development of civil society, meaning such complex and counterintuitive institutions as the rule of law, an independent judiciary, multiple political parties, minority rights, voluntary associations, freedom of expression, movement, and assembly. Democracy is a learned habit, not an instinctive one, that requires deep attitudinal changes such as a culture of restraint, a commonality of values, a respect for differences of view, the concept of loyal opposition, and a sense of civic responsibility." Daniel Pipes
I'd be curious to know what qualifies as a public statement that casts doubt on the election. For example, Rand Paul expressed concern, rightfully so, that some of the actions of the states, particularly where governors implemented changes without approval of the state legislators, may have violated state constitutions and should be investigated.
Quote from: p1tchblack on April 26, 2021, 09:32:32 AM
I'd be curious to know what qualifies as a public statement that casts doubt on the election. For example, Rand Paul expressed concern, rightfully so, that some of the actions of the states, particularly where governors implemented changes without approval of the state legislators, may have violated state constitutions and should be investigated.
No all the evidence TAKEN TOGETHER AS ONE proves trump won in a landslide and that millions of votes where stolen. Thats what the facts and evidence show, which you admit you have seen yet refuse to believe since it doesnt fit your preconceived notion that the dems are proamerica.
Quote from: p1tchblack on April 26, 2021, 09:32:32 AM
I'd be curious to know what qualifies as a public statement that casts doubt on the election. For example, Rand Paul expressed concern, rightfully so, that some of the actions of the states, particularly where governors implemented changes without approval of the state legislators, may have violated state constitutions and should be investigated.
Stop Fuckin derailing threads!
Walks, if he pulls this shit again, 5 day timeout!
Quote from: Solar on April 26, 2021, 10:09:46 AM
Stop Fuckin derailing threads!
Walks, if he pulls this shit again, 5 year timeout!
Quote from: midcan5 on April 26, 2021, 04:51:18 AM
This is interesting. What do you think?
"Don't sit quietly and surrender one of America's great political parties."
'GOP Democracy Report Card' 'Which Republicans supported American democracy when it needed it?'
https://accountability.gop/report-card/
"First, democracy is more than holding elections; it requires the development of civil society, meaning such complex and counterintuitive institutions as the rule of law, an independent judiciary, multiple political parties, minority rights, voluntary associations, freedom of expression, movement, and assembly. Democracy is a learned habit, not an instinctive one, that requires deep attitudinal changes such as a culture of restraint, a commonality of values, a respect for differences of view, the concept of loyal opposition, and a sense of civic responsibility." Daniel Pipes
How about you quote us what the constitution says about this being a democracy and where it says it. Till then maybe you should just sit down and STFU.
Quote from: Solar on April 26, 2021, 10:09:46 AM
Stop Fuckin derailing threads!
Walks, if he pulls this shit again, 5 day timeout!
The story measures 4 criteria to give Republicans a grade. One of those is Public Statements. How is raising a question about that criteria considered to be "derailing"?
NAME STATE/DISTRICT DID NOT SIGN TX BRIEF STATE EC CERTIFICATION
PUBLIC STATEMENTS IMPEACHMENT OVERALL GRADE
Quote from: p1tchblack on April 26, 2021, 11:21:49 AM
The story measures 4 criteria to give Republicans a grade. One of those is Public Statements. How is raising a question about that criteria considered to be "derailing"?
NAME STATE/DISTRICT DID NOT SIGN TX BRIEF STATE EC CERTIFICATION PUBLIC STATEMENTS IMPEACHMENT OVERALL GRADE
Because this is a trolls hit thread and carries absolutely Zero Credibility!
Quote from: Solar on April 26, 2021, 11:32:16 AM
Because this is a trolls hit thread and carries absolutely Zero Credibility!
Why do we let LWNJs on here? I have no time for their uneducated nazi propaganda anymore....
Quote from: Owebo on April 26, 2021, 11:35:18 AM
Why do we let LWNJs on here? I have no time for their uneducated nazi propaganda anymore....
Because we are an open forum, where thousands of readers come daily to learn, so having libs expose their ignorance on a regular basis, teaches others why they are wrong.
Many take what they read here and post it on other forums, while others actually learn something.
Remember, what you post here is not for the handful of posters at the moment, but thousands worldwide. Use it, make an impact.
Quote from: Solar on April 26, 2021, 11:32:16 AM
Because this is a trolls hit thread and carries absolutely Zero Credibility!
Your opinion of the thread is irrelevant to whether or not I'm derailing. So, again, how am I derailing?
Quote from: p1tchblack on April 26, 2021, 12:33:09 PM
Your opinion of the thread is irrelevant to whether or not I'm derailing. So, again, how am I derailing?
I wonder, how does it feel being this boards designated pissing post and whipping boy?
Quote from: dickfoster on April 26, 2021, 12:41:56 PM
I wonder, how does it feel being this boards designated pissing post and whipping boy?
The LWNJs are all getting nervous with the Arizona audit...I've seen them get launched into several political boards I frequent and they are all the same, angry nazis mad that we can see right through them as they try to hide amongst us....
Quote from: p1tchblack on April 26, 2021, 12:33:09 PM
Your opinion of the thread is irrelevant to whether or not I'm derailing. So, again, how am I derailing?
Sorry troll, my opinion carries the weight of the forum! I set the agenda, not you! Your opinion carries the weight of a fart in a wind storm!
This site becomes very boring when so many threads go round and round with trolls.
Quote from: dickfoster on April 26, 2021, 12:41:56 PM
I wonder, how does it feel being this boards designated pissing post and whipping boy?
If we used the same rules as Faceplant and Twiturd, he'd have been gone before he started, but we like them whining, we drink their tears.
Quote from: Solar on April 26, 2021, 12:50:15 PM
Sorry troll, my opinion carries the weight of the forum! I set the agenda, not you! Your opinion carries the weight of a fart in a wind storm!
Your inability to support your position is noted.
Quote from: p1tchblack on April 26, 2021, 12:54:08 PM
Your inability to support your position is noted.
My position is solid, I'm a Constitutional Conservative! You on the other hand, are a lib Marxist troll.
Quote from: p1tchblack on April 26, 2021, 12:54:08 PM
Your inability to support your position is noted.
Your inability to think is noted....
Quote from: Solar on April 26, 2021, 01:02:46 PM
My position is solid, I'm a Constitutional Conservative! You on the other hand, are a lib Marxist troll.
Again, you claimed I was derailing the thread. That has nothing to do with yours or my political beliefs.
Quote from: p1tchblack on April 26, 2021, 01:25:17 PM
Again, you claimed I was derailing the thread. That has nothing to do with yours or my political beliefs.
Last time dumb ass!
This thread was a trolling thread, if you keep this shit up, I'll simply boot your as for trolling!
There is only one troll that should be posting in it, the idiot that started it.
Do I make myself clear? Not responding would be the smartest move.
Quote from: p1tchblack on April 26, 2021, 01:25:17 PM
Again, you claimed I was derailing the thread. That has nothing to do with yours or my political beliefs.
Actually, it has everything to do with your left wing beliefs.....
Quote from: Solar on April 26, 2021, 01:28:48 PM
Last time dumb ass!
This thread was a trolling thread, if you keep this shit up, I'll simply boot your as for trolling!
There is only one troll that should be posting in it, the idiot that started it.
Do I make myself clear? Not responding would be the smartest move.
He is not smart and keeps derailing the thread. So I will give him a timeout, before you boot his bull shit ass.
Solar et al, we've had this discussion before, America is a constitutional or representative democracy. We the people elect our representatives to represent us.
According to some definitions a republic is quite similar: 'a state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president rather than a monarch.'
But the people control the government by voting and voting is what democracy is all about. 'We the people....'
''America Is a Republic, Not a Democracy' Is a Dangerous—And Wrong—Argument'
"Enabling sustained minority rule at the national level is not a feature of our constitutional design, but a perversion of it.'
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/11/yes-constitution-democracy/616949/
Quote from: midcan5 on April 26, 2021, 02:51:42 PM
Solar et al, we've had this discussion before, America is a constitutional or representative democracy. We the people elect our representatives to represent us.
According to some definitions a republic is quite similar: 'a state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president rather than a monarch.'
But the people control the government by voting and voting is what democracy is all about. 'We the people....'
''America Is a Republic, Not a Democracy' Is a Dangerous—And Wrong—Argument'
"Enabling sustained minority rule at the national level is not a feature of our constitutional design, but a perversion of it.'
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/11/yes-constitution-democracy/616949/
Yes,,we are a republic....say it with us Americans...republic....lol
You liberals are idiots....
Quote from: midcan5 on April 26, 2021, 02:51:42 PM
Solar et al, we've had this discussion before, America is a constitutional or representative democracy. We the people elect our representatives to represent us.
Yes we have, and I handed you your ass the last time you pulled this bull shit!
All you had to do was to show me in any of our Founding Documents, the word democracy, and you can't, so that's the end of this shit!
I'll tell you Right now, post that crap again, and I'll delete your posts, you are not allowed to spread lies!
Quote from: dickfoster on April 26, 2021, 10:27:37 AM
How about you quote us what the constitution says about this being a democracy and where it says it. Till then maybe you should just sit down and STFU.
He can't.... it's written cursive......... :lol: :lol: :lol:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLcMcdbb4Ho (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLcMcdbb4Ho)
About Biden - cool president :thumbsup:
Quote from: wespe61 on April 27, 2021, 09:57:41 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLcMcdbb4Ho (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLcMcdbb4Ho)
About Biden - cool president :thumbsup:
He's a Senile old Pervert. Been in office for 47 years and has done NOTHING. He's a bigot, a sexist and a Marxist.
Newbies. Sheesh.
Quote from: tiny1 on April 27, 2021, 10:15:06 AM
He's a Senile old Pervert. Been in office for 47 years and has done NOTHING. He's a bigot, a sexist and a Marxist.
Newbies. Sheesh.
Yep....
The Marxists sleight of hand. Biteme hasn't had a cogent thought in a long ass time, he is but an empty shell.
While everyone is distracted and blaming this no body, the Marxists are wasting no time cementing their agenda globally.
He is being used as a distraction, just like BLM Antifa, the flu hoax etc. they don't want us watching what they're really doing worldwide in helping our enemies.
Quote from: midcan5 on April 26, 2021, 02:51:42 PM
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/11/yes-constitution-democracy/616949/
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I felt like commenting, then I noticed the source of his wisdom.
You gotta be kidding - it doesn't even deserve the click.
More anti-American, Marxist wisdom - gee... that's like 90% of todays main stream publications.
Give me a bit and I'll be back to this thread.
Quote from: midcan5 on April 27, 2021, 01:16:46 PM
Give me a bit and I'll be back to this thread.
Your uneducated ignorance won't be missed until then...
Quote from: Owebo on April 27, 2021, 01:29:47 PM
Your uneducated ignorance won't be missed until then...
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
Quote from: midcan5 on April 26, 2021, 02:51:42 PM
Solar et al, we've had this discussion before, America is a constitutional or representative democracy. We the people elect our representatives to represent us.
According to some definitions a republic is quite similar: 'a state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president rather than a monarch.'
But the people control the government by voting and voting is what democracy is all about. 'We the people....'
''America Is a Republic, Not a Democracy' Is a Dangerous—And Wrong—Argument'
"Enabling sustained minority rule at the national level is not a feature of our constitutional design, but a perversion of it.'
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/11/yes-constitution-democracy/616949/
Bullshit.
"And to the Republic, for which we stand...."
Idiot. No wonder the blue cities are shitholes, it's their education system that turns out complete morons.
Why do you guys get so mad when another American has a different point of view? When you say we are a republic and not a democracy you have to realize many dictatorial nations call themselves a republic. But in America 'we the people' vote, people voting makes for a democracy, call it a republic if you like, but that doesn't change the fact that power rests with the people. As the old saying goes, the proof is in the pudding and the pudding spoke in 2020.
A republic is: "National sovereignty lies in the authority of the government, not in an emperor or monarch. The word republic comes from the Latin words res publica, meaning a "public thing". For example, the United States and India are republics, but North Korea and Cuba are also called republics."
https://www.britannica.com/topic/republic-government
"Democracy is government by the people especially : rule of the majority. A government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections."
'Does the Constitution mention democracy?'
"The Constitution is organized into three parts. The Constitution established a Federal democratic republic. It is the system of the Federal Government; it is democratic because the people govern themselves; and it is a republic because the Government's power is derived from its people."
Banish word salad call a spade a spade.
Quote from: midcan5 on April 28, 2021, 04:10:15 AM
Why do you guys get so mad when another American has a different point of view? When you say we are a republic and not a democracy you have to realize many dictatorial nations call themselves a republic. But in America 'we the people' vote, people voting makes for a democracy, call it a republic if you like, but that doesn't change the fact that power rests with the people. As the old saying goes, the proof is in the pudding and the pudding spoke in 2020.
A republic is: "National sovereignty lies in the authority of the government, not in an emperor or monarch. The word republic comes from the Latin words res publica, meaning a "public thing". For example, the United States and India are republics, but North Korea and Cuba are also called republics."
https://www.britannica.com/topic/republic-government
"Democracy is government by the people especially : rule of the majority. A government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections."
'Does the Constitution mention democracy?'
"The Constitution is organized into three parts. The Constitution established a Federal democratic republic. It is the system of the Federal Government; it is democratic because the people govern themselves; and it is a republic because the Government's power is derived from its people."
Banish word salad call a spade a spade.
Because Americans generally despise you liberal nazis....
Quote from: midcan5 on April 28, 2021, 04:10:15 AM
Why do you guys get so mad when another American has a different point of view? When you say we are a republic and not a democracy you have to realize many dictatorial nations call themselves a republic.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/republic-government
"Democracy is government by the people especially : rule of the majority. A government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections."
"The Constitution is organized into three parts. The Constitution established a Federal democratic republic. It is the system of the Federal Government; it is democratic because the people govern themselves; and it is a republic because the Government's power is derived from its people."
Banish word salad call a spade a spade.
Yeah, we do tend to get a little touchy when liberals come on board and try to pass their opinion, which is usually just cnn's talking points, off as facts. And that touchyness gets up a little when asked to back up their opinion and they post another opinion piece.
QuoteBut in America 'we the people' vote, people voting makes for a democracy, call it a republic if you like, but that doesn't change the fact that power rests with the people.
Sorry, but "we the people" voting does not make for a democracy. Quick question, how many senators and congressmen do you get to vote for? All 535? If we were a democracy you would get to vote for all of them, you know, majority rule. But when laws are passed, it is representatives of the states, passing them, you know, like a republic. If we were a democracy, there would be no veto, you know, majority rule. Ever here the saying majority rule = mob rule? See, a republic protect everyone, not just the majority.
QuoteAs the old saying goes, the proof is in the pudding and the pudding spoke in 2020.
If the pudding is voter fraud I might get what you are saying, but for someone who is as "well read" as you tell us you are, that is one stupid statement.
QuoteA republic is: "National sovereignty lies in the authority of the government, not in an emperor or monarch. The word republic comes from the Latin words res publica, meaning a "public thing". For example, the United States and India are republics, but North Korea and Cuba are also called republics."
Can you name one communist country that the ruling party is not elected by an overwhelming majority, you know like a democracy? didn't think so.
Quote'Does the Constitution mention democracy?'
No it doesn't, because they founding fathers did not want one.
Quote from: midcan5 on April 28, 2021, 04:10:15 AM
Why do you guys get so mad when another American has a different point of view? When you say we are a republic and not a democracy you have to realize many dictatorial nations call themselves a republic. But in America 'we the people' vote, people voting makes for a democracy, call it a republic if you like, but that doesn't change the fact that power rests with the people. As the old saying goes, the proof is in the pudding and the pudding spoke in 2020.
A republic is: "National sovereignty lies in the authority of the government, not in an emperor or monarch. The word republic comes from the Latin words res publica, meaning a "public thing". For example, the United States and India are republics, but North Korea and Cuba are also called republics."
https://www.britannica.com/topic/republic-government
"Democracy is government by the people especially : rule of the majority. A government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections."
'Does the Constitution mention democracy?'
"The Constitution is organized into three parts. The Constitution established a Federal democratic republic. It is the system of the Federal Government; it is democratic because the people govern themselves; and it is a republic because the Government's power is derived from its people."
Banish word salad call a spade a spade.
I call bullshit on you moving the goal post of other "dictatorial nations call themselves a republic".
That's other countries we're talking about the United States of America.
Your problem is you liberals want mob rule and love it. The truth of the matter we are a rule of law a Republic which you hate.
Quote from: midcan5 on April 28, 2021, 04:10:15 AM
Why do you guys get so mad when another American has a different point of view? When you say we are a republic and not a democracy you have to realize many dictatorial nations call themselves a republic. But in America 'we the people' vote, people voting makes for a democracy, call it a republic if you like, but that doesn't change the fact that power rests with the people. As the old saying goes, the proof is in the pudding and the pudding spoke in 2020.
A republic is: "National sovereignty lies in the authority of the government, not in an emperor or monarch. The word republic comes from the Latin words res publica, meaning a "public thing". For example, the United States and India are republics, but North Korea and Cuba are also called republics."
https://www.britannica.com/topic/republic-government
"Democracy is government by the people especially : rule of the majority. A government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections."
'Does the Constitution mention democracy?'
"The Constitution is organized into three parts. The Constitution established a Federal democratic republic. It is the system of the Federal Government; it is democratic because the people govern themselves; and it is a republic because the Government's power is derived from its people."
Banish word salad call a spade a spade.
Simple grammar diagramming should resolve this. The sentence "The Constitution established a Federal democratic republic" is diagrammed as: "Constitution" (subject) "established" (verb) "republic" (object). "Federal, democratic" (adjectives, describing the object). The core statement is "The Constitution established a republic".
The Constitution did NOT "establish a democracy".
Quote from: Possum on April 28, 2021, 04:40:09 AM
Yeah, we do tend to get a little touchy when liberals come on board and try to pass their opinion, which is usually just cnn's talking points, off as facts. And that touchyness gets up a little when asked to back up their opinion and they post another opinion piece.
Sorry, but "we the people" voting does not make for a democracy. Quick question, how many senators and congressmen do you get to vote for? All 535? If we were a democracy you would get to vote for all of them, you know, majority rule. But when laws are passed, it is representatives of the states, passing them, you know, like a republic. If we were a democracy, there would be no veto, you know, majority rule. Ever here the saying majority rule = mob rule? See, a republic protect everyone, not just the majority.
If the pudding is voter fraud I might get what you are saying, but for someone who is as "well read" as you tell us you are, that is one stupid statement.
Can you name one communist country that the ruling party is not elected by an overwhelming majority, you know like a democracy? didn't think so.
No it doesn't, because they founding fathers did not want one.
Nailed it!!! :thumbup:
Quote from: midcan5 on April 28, 2021, 04:10:15 AM
Why do you guys get so mad when another American has a different point of view? When you say we are a republic and not a democracy you have to realize many dictatorial nations call themselves a republic. But in America 'we the people' vote, people voting makes for a democracy, call it a republic if you like, but that doesn't change the fact that power rests with the people. As the old saying goes, the proof is in the pudding and the pudding spoke in 2020.
A republic is: "National sovereignty lies in the authority of the government, not in an emperor or monarch. The word republic comes from the Latin words res publica, meaning a "public thing". For example, the United States and India are republics, but North Korea and Cuba are also called republics."
https://www.britannica.com/topic/republic-government
"Democracy is government by the people especially : rule of the majority. A government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections."
'Does the Constitution mention democracy?'
"The Constitution is organized into three parts. The Constitution established a Federal democratic republic. It is the system of the Federal Government; it is democratic because the people govern themselves; and it is a republic because the Government's power is derived from its people."
Banish word salad call a spade a spade.
Maybe, just maybe you can grasp this. Note the word "Repugnant"!
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Quote from: midcan5 on April 28, 2021, 04:10:15 AM
Why do you guys get so mad when another American has a different point of view? When you say we are a republic and not a democracy you have to realize many dictatorial nations call themselves a republic. But in America 'we the people' vote, people voting makes for a democracy, call it a republic if you like, but that doesn't change the fact that power rests with the people. As the old saying goes, the proof is in the pudding and the pudding spoke in 2020.
A republic is: "National sovereignty lies in the authority of the government, not in an emperor or monarch. The word republic comes from the Latin words res publica, meaning a "public thing". For example, the United States and India are republics, but North Korea and Cuba are also called republics."
https://www.britannica.com/topic/republic-government
"Democracy is government by the people especially : rule of the majority. A government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections."
'Does the Constitution mention democracy?'
"The Constitution is organized into three parts. The Constitution established a Federal democratic republic. It is the system of the Federal Government; it is democratic because the people govern themselves; and it is a republic because the Government's power is derived from its people."
Banish word salad call a spade a spade.
But you arent pushing a different point of VIEW, you are pushing leftist talking points designed to promote a different REALITY.
Can you see the difference?
Thanks for your replies. Calling opinions leftist or liberal or whatever are not replies they are labels. Labels often get us in trouble. I do the same of course. But the point remains, we the people voted. I prefer democracy, you like republic but the show goes on regardless. The modern obsession with words like leftist, cancel, woke etc etc etc is kinda useless in my humble opinion. Analysis and thought requires more than in-group pejoratives.
"The basic tool for the manipulation of reality is the manipulation of words. If you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use the words." Philip K. Dick
Any Stanley Fish readers? He is a favorite of mine. Fish is a deep thinker and his 'Winning Arguments' is excellent. I gotta get it out. LOL
This piece is interesting too: http://www.drugsense.org/tfy/hijacked.htm
You must know by now I am lover of quotes and aphorisms. A few below
"The inability or unwillingness of citizens to differentiate between fake and authentic news is undermining a fundamental assumption of democracy: the informed voter." Richard Edelman
Addendum: For the readers
We are going out Mother's day and I laughed when I reviewed this author's piece. Read to find why.
"The greatest cause of verbicide is the fact that most people are obviously far more anxious to express their approval and disapproval of things than to describe them. Hence the tendency of words to become less descriptive, and more evaluative; then to become evaluative, while still retaining some hint of the sort of goodness or badness implied; and to end up by being purely evaluative useless synonyms for good or for bad." C.S. Lewis
https://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2014/06/uncluttering-the-house-of-the-mind
Quote from: midcan5 on April 29, 2021, 05:31:32 AM
Thanks for your replies. Calling opinions leftist or liberal or whatever are not replies they are labels. Labels often get us in trouble. I do the same of course. But the point remains, we the people voted. I prefer democracy, you like republic but the show goes on regardless. The modern obsession with words like leftist, cancel, woke etc etc etc is kinda useless in my humble opinion. Analysis and thought requires more than in-group pejoratives.
"The basic tool for the manipulation of reality is the manipulation of words. If you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use the words." Philip K. Dick
Any Stanley Fish readers? He is a favorite of mine. Fish is a deep thinker and his 'Winning Arguments' is excellent. I gotta get it out. LOL
This piece is interesting too: http://www.drugsense.org/tfy/hijacked.htm
You must know by now I am lover of quotes and aphorisms. A few below
"The inability or unwillingness of citizens to differentiate between fake and authentic news is undermining a fundamental assumption of democracy: the informed voter." Richard Edelman
Addendum: For the readers
We are going out Mother's day and I laughed when I reviewed this author's piece. Read to find why.
"The greatest cause of verbicide is the fact that most people are obviously far more anxious to express their approval and disapproval of things than to describe them. Hence the tendency of words to become less descriptive, and more evaluative; then to become evaluative, while still retaining some hint of the sort of goodness or badness implied; and to end up by being purely evaluative useless synonyms for good or for bad." C.S. Lewis
https://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2014/06/uncluttering-the-house-of-the-mind
All you democrat nazis love mob rule....
Quote from: midcan5 on April 29, 2021, 05:31:32 AM
Thanks for your replies. Calling opinions leftist or liberal or whatever are not replies they are labels.
No, they are not opinions, they are based in actual Fact, your entire belief system is the antithesis of who we are as a Nation based on our Founding Documents!!!
QuoteLabels often get us in trouble. I do the same of course. But the point remains, we the people voted. I prefer democracy, you like republic but the show goes on regardless.
And therein lies the problem, you want democracy so bad, you're willing to destroy our Republic to get it.
QuoteThe modern obsession with words like leftist, cancel, woke etc etc etc is kinda useless in my humble opinion. Analysis and thought requires more than in-group pejoratives.
LOL! And your side created it all, so own it!
And therein lies the problem, you want democracy so bad, you're willing to destroy our Republic to get it.
Quote from: midcan5 on April 29, 2021, 05:31:32 AM
Thanks for your replies. Calling opinions leftist or liberal or whatever are not replies they are labels. Labels often get us in trouble. I do the same of course. The modern obsession with words like leftist, cancel, woke etc etc etc is kinda useless in my humble opinion.
LOL so you are getting triggered that we are calling you out for what you are? You are getting mad that we are properly defining the enemy of America?
Why are you so worried that we are properly labeling them? Why are you so afraid of proper, correct labels? Why do yo fear the truth?
Surely you agree that leftism is evil? To say otherwise is to deny objective morality.
Surely you agree socialism has always failed? To say otherwise is to deny history.
Surely you can agree the left is trying to take over and destroy this country? To say otherwise is to deny the facts and evidence.
Surely you can agree that the left is our enemy? To say otherwise is to deny reality.
See, thats called using your brain for logical deduction. Try it sometime...
QuoteI prefer democracy, you like republic but the show goes on regardless.
No the show does not go on if we dont allow it too. We are in the majority so we hold all the power despite the hollywood show going on right now.
QuoteBut the point remains, we the people voted.
Yes, we voted trump. But none of our votes were counted due to all the illegal votes.
QuoteAnalysis and thought requires more than in-group pejoratives.
Yet, thats all the left is capable of. Thats why they think they are in the majority and think that biden won, despite a lack of evidence.
Quote"The basic tool for the manipulation of reality is the manipulation of words. If you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use the words." Philip K. Dick
Exactly! You are projecting the very thing YOU ARE DOING HERE onto us. YOU are the one manipulating words and not calling a spade a spade. Thanks for pointing this out to us all.
Quote"The inability or unwillingness of citizens to differentiate between fake and authentic news is undermining a fundamental assumption of democracy: the informed voter." Richard Edelman
Thank God for Trump proving to us that all the news in america was fake news. All owed by the deepstate.
The left loves the uninformed voter. Needs them for survival really.
QuoteAny Stanley Fish readers? He is a favorite of mine. Fish is a deep thinker and his 'Winning Arguments' is excellent. I gotta get it out. LOL
This piece is interesting too: http://www.drugsense.org/tfy/hijacked.htm
You must know by now I am lover of quotes and aphorisms. A few below
Addendum: For the readers
We are going out Mother's day and I laughed when I reviewed this author's piece. Read to find why.
Nobody cares.
Quote"The greatest cause of verbicide is the fact that most people are obviously far more anxious to express their approval and disapproval of things than to describe them. Hence the tendency of words to become less descriptive, and more evaluative; then to become evaluative, while still retaining some hint of the sort of goodness or badness implied; and to end up by being purely evaluative useless synonyms for good or for bad." C.S. Lewis
https://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2014/06/uncluttering-the-house-of-the-mind
U do understand that CS lewis was a christian and was warning us about the left, right?
See, when the left has power they do everything they can to 'end the debate' before its even started, silencing the right.
Then, once the debate has been had and their side has lost, then they never want the debate to end. They try to scream that WE arent allowing the debate at all and are trying to silence them, even tho we did allow it and they lost. (This is what midcan is trying to do here right now.)
When in power they allow no debate.
When out, they never allow the debate to come to a conclusion.
Owebo, I am an independent, Uncle Sam's air force was the only club I joined. You guys can call me whatever names you like, it doesn't mean anything.
Solar, I served this nation during Vietnam. Pay my taxes too, often top rate. My side? Not sure what that is?
T Hunt, I've been online since the infancy of the Internet and have commented on this effort of breaking up replies. Interesting tactic. But it reminds me of a schoolmarm writing on your composition paper. And if you don't care about a specific item do I need to know? No.
Leftism is evil, not sure what that means or even is, disagree too your other assumptions as I'd need to know more. Labeling means little. Hate is easy, thought harder. Examples help. Specifics please. Oh and socialism works well in Finland etc.
Trump proved media was fake? He did, how exactly did he do that, tell us and I want solid references. You know what the DI said about opinions. 'Facts just the facts ma'ma.' Sgt. Friday.
I'm not going to assume what CS Lewis would think of America today but I would doubt he'd think the hatred regarding party and immigrants and minorities very Christian. That's just me. Like his quotes.
"Literature adds to reality, it does not simply describe it. It enriches the necessary competencies that daily life requires and provides; and in this respect, it irrigates the deserts that our lives have already become." C. S. Lewis
"The task of the modern educator is not to cut down jungles, but to irrigate deserts." C. S. Lewis
"Let's pray that the human race never escapes from Earth to spread its iniquity elsewhere." C. S. Lewis
Quote from: midcan5 on April 29, 2021, 03:40:25 PM
Owebo, I am an independent, Uncle Sam's air force was the only club I joined. You guys can call me whatever names you like, it doesn't mean anything.
Solar, I served this nation during Vietnam. Pay my taxes too, often top rate. My side? Not sure what that is?
T Hunt, I've been online since the infancy of the Internet and have commented on this effort of breaking up replies. Interesting tactic. But it reminds me of a schoolmarm writing on your composition paper. And if you don't care about a specific item do I need to know? No.
Leftism is evil, not sure what that means or even is, disagree too your other assumptions as I'd need to know more. Labeling means little. Hate is easy, thought harder. Examples help. Specifics please. Oh and socialism works well in Finland etc.
Trump proved media was fake? He did, how exactly did he do that, tell us and I want solid references. You know what the DI said about opinions. 'Facts just the facts ma'ma.' Sgt. Friday.
I'm not going to assume what CS Lewis would think of America today but I would doubt he'd think the hatred regarding party and immigrants and minorities very Christian. That's just me. Like his quotes.
"Literature adds to reality, it does not simply describe it. It enriches the necessary competencies that daily life requires and provides; and in this respect, it irrigates the deserts that our lives have already become." C. S. Lewis
"The task of the modern educator is not to cut down jungles, but to irrigate deserts." C. S. Lewis
"Let's pray that the human race never escapes from Earth to spread its iniquity elsewhere." C. S. Lewis
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffreydorfman/2018/07/08/sorry-bernie-bros-but-nordic-countries-are-not-socialist/?sh=684dc8ff74ad
QuoteTo the extent that the left wants to point to an example of successful socialism, not just generous welfare states, the Nordic countries are actually a poor case to cite. Regardless of the perception, in reality the Nordic countries practice mostly free market economics paired with high taxes exchanged for generous government entitlement programs.
QuoteFirst, it is worth noting that the Nordic counties were economic successes before they built their welfare states. Those productive economies, generating good incomes for their workers, allowed the governments to raise the tax revenue needed to pay for the social benefits. It was not the government benefits that created wealth, but wealth that allowed the luxury of such generous government programs.
If you want to use a good example of socialism, try using Venezuela, they are socialist.
Quote from: midcan5 on April 29, 2021, 03:40:25 PM
Owebo, I am an independent, Uncle Sam's air force was the only club I joined. You guys can call me whatever names you like, it doesn't mean anything.
Solar, I served this nation during Vietnam. Pay my taxes too, often top rate. My side? Not sure what that is?
T Hunt, I've been online since the infancy of the Internet and have commented on this effort of breaking up replies. Interesting tactic. But it reminds me of a schoolmarm writing on your composition paper. And if you don't care about a specific item do I need to know? No.
Leftism is evil, not sure what that means or even is, disagree too your other assumptions as I'd need to know more. Labeling means little. Hate is easy, thought harder. Examples help. Specifics please. Oh and socialism works well in Finland etc.
Trump proved media was fake? He did, how exactly did he do that, tell us and I want solid references. You know what the DI said about opinions. 'Facts just the facts ma'ma.' Sgt. Friday.
I'm not going to assume what CS Lewis would think of America today but I would doubt he'd think the hatred regarding party and immigrants and minorities very Christian. That's just me. Like his quotes.
"Literature adds to reality, it does not simply describe it. It enriches the necessary competencies that daily life requires and provides; and in this respect, it irrigates the deserts that our lives have already become." C. S. Lewis
"The task of the modern educator is not to cut down jungles, but to irrigate deserts." C. S. Lewis
"Let's pray that the human race never escapes from Earth to spread its iniquity elsewhere." C. S. Lewis
Your words label you....your anger on how we can see right through you exposes your weak character....typical of liberals
Thanks for your service....
Quote from: midcan5 on April 29, 2021, 03:40:25 PM
Owebo, I am an independent, Uncle Sam's air force was the only club I joined. You guys can call me whatever names you like, it doesn't mean anything.
Solar, I served this nation during Vietnam. Pay my taxes too, often top rate. My side? Not sure what that is?
T Hunt, I've been online since the infancy of the Internet and have commented on this effort of breaking up replies. Interesting tactic. But it reminds me of a schoolmarm writing on your composition paper. And if you don't care about a specific item do I need to know? No.
Leftism is evil, not sure what that means or even is, disagree too your other assumptions as I'd need to know more. Labeling means little. Hate is easy, thought harder. Examples help. Specifics please. Oh and socialism works well in Finland etc.
Trump proved media was fake? He did, how exactly did he do that, tell us and I want solid references. You know what the DI said about opinions. 'Facts just the facts ma'ma.' Sgt. Friday.
I'm not going to assume what CS Lewis would think of America today but I would doubt he'd think the hatred regarding party and immigrants and minorities very Christian. That's just me. Like his quotes.
"Literature adds to reality, it does not simply describe it. It enriches the necessary competencies that daily life requires and provides; and in this respect, it irrigates the deserts that our lives have already become." C. S. Lewis
"The task of the modern educator is not to cut down jungles, but to irrigate deserts." C. S. Lewis
"Let's pray that the human race never escapes from Earth to spread its iniquity elsewhere." C. S. Lewis
Socalism doesn't work well in Finland or anywhere else it or any forn of collective bullshit has ever been tried.
When was the last time you were ever in Finland? I used to go every two months and have been all over that country.
Quote from: midcan5 on April 26, 2021, 04:51:18 AM
This is interesting. What do you think?
"Don't sit quietly and surrender one of America's great political parties."
'GOP Democracy Report Card' 'Which Republicans supported American democracy when it needed it?'
https://accountability.gop/report-card/
"First, democracy is more than holding elections; it requires the development of civil society, meaning such complex and counterintuitive institutions as the rule of law, an independent judiciary, multiple political parties, minority rights, voluntary associations, freedom of expression, movement, and assembly. Democracy is a learned habit, not an instinctive one, that requires deep attitudinal changes such as a culture of restraint, a commonality of values, a respect for differences of view, the concept of loyal opposition, and a sense of civic responsibility." Daniel Pipes
Still waiting for an explanation for this bull shit!
Quote from: midcan5 on April 29, 2021, 03:40:25 PM
T Hunt, I've been online since the infancy of the Internet and have commented on this effort of breaking up replies. Interesting tactic. But it reminds me of a schoolmarm writing on your composition paper.
Sorry that being efficient triggers you...
QuoteAnd if you don't care about a specific item do I need to know? No.
Again, sorry you get triggered so easily.
QuoteLeftism is evil, not sure what that means or even is, disagree too your other assumptions as I'd need to know more. Labeling means little. Hate is easy, thought harder. Examples help. Specifics please.
If hate is easy then why does the left hate so much? How come all violence and hate exists ONLY on the left? How come you cant show me any examples of right wing violence?
QuoteOh and socialism works well in Finland etc.
Then how come it failed in finland and everywhere else it was tried?
QuoteTrump proved media was fake? He did, how exactly did he do that, tell us and I want solid references. You know what the DI said about opinions. 'Facts just the facts ma'ma.' Sgt. Friday.
Sure, just look at the entire russian collusion delusion.
Now we have the email conversations between obama, clinton, and biden literally making it up and using the media to push the propaganda.
Despite zero evidence that trump colluded with russia the media helped the dem party push that made up myth.
That is more than enough proof that the media is the enemy of america.
QuoteI'm not going to assume what CS Lewis would think of America today
Its not hard to know what he believed as he was a christian, and
you cannot be a christian and a democrat leftists.
The leftist philosophy is anti christian and anti western culture.
Quotebut I would doubt he'd think the hatred regarding party and immigrants and minorities very Christian. That's just me. Like his quotes.
So you agree that he would be against the left, since they hate immigrants and minorities and arent very christian.
Unless you are saying the right does that, in which case you will have to prove it or retract your statement...
Quote from: midcan5 on April 29, 2021, 03:40:25 PM
Trump proved media was fake? He did, how exactly did he do that, tell us and I want solid references. You know what the DI said about opinions. 'Facts just the facts ma'ma.' Sgt. Friday.
Heres more proof...
https://www.projectveritas.com/news/update-new-york-times-forced-to-answer-veritass-defamation-lawsuit-nyt/
QuoteNew York Times FORCED to Answer Veritas's Defamation Lawsuit – NYT Admits They Did Not Contact Veritas's Named Sources for Comment; Admits Astor Article WRONG About MN Law; Claims Articles Are Opinion While Admitting Reporters Not Opinion Writers
T HUnt, I don't consider James Edward O'Keefe III a reliable source of information but nice try. Give me some sources that can be trusted. Thanks.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/project-veritas/
Earlier comment reply:
Finland was again voted most happy. One must recognize a simple fact of life, we see the world as we are not as it is. I'd like to get to Finland some day, ancestors came from that area per DNA. But I must acknowledge on further study, it is not socialism but a better run social capitalism.
https://www.businessinsider.com/finland-has-capitalist-economy-why-are-finns-so-much-happier-2020-2
Solar, Explanation? That report card is from conservative republicans rating other republicans based on their values concerning the presidential election and subsequent insurrection. I give them great credit as they spoke out, too many just follow today.
T Hunt, I don't consider it efficient I consider it clutter. It reminds me too of interrogation techniques, each answer becomes another question. I don't see hate from this left you imagine. BLM protests etc were peaceful compared to the Jan 6Th white supremacists. That is fact.
https://www.newsweek.com/hate-crimes-under-trump-surged-nearly-20-percent-says-fbi-report-1547870
Russia collusion is well documented, if you doubt read a book that will give you lots of detail. 'Hiding in Plain Sight: The Invention of Donald Trump and the Erosion of America'. I know you won't read it, but maybe others will. This article covers the collusion as well:
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/08/bipartisan-senate-report-shows-2016-trump-russia-collusion.html
Trump proved nothing as you gave me no supporting reference. Proof please. I'm not sure what leftist means to you but modern so called religious conservatives are not very religious given their support of Trump who made the mess at our border and preached hate from the moment he aspired to be president. You do remember his words.
Regarding Lewis and Christianity, this article is interesting for readers who like to dig down.
https://www.currentaffairs.org/2020/09/was-jesus-a-socialist
PS T, Nothing fazes me, been there done that etc etc.... But if you want to learn read the book. Bet you can't. It would be like the devil bathing in holy water.
Quote from: midcan5 on April 30, 2021, 02:34:13 PM
T HUnt, I don't consider James Edward O'Keefe III a reliable source of information but nice try. Give me some sources that can be trusted. Thanks.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/project-veritas/
Earlier comment reply:
Finland was again voted most happy. One must recognize a simple fact of life, we see the world as we are not as it is. I'd like to get to Finland some day, ancestors came from that area per DNA. But I must acknowledge on further study, it is not socialism but a better run social capitalism.
https://www.businessinsider.com/finland-has-capitalist-economy-why-are-finns-so-much-happier-2020-2
Solar, Explanation? That report card is from conservative republicans rating other republicans based on their values concerning the presidential election and subsequent insurrection. I give them great credit as they spoke out, too many just follow today.
T Hunt, I don't consider it efficient I consider it clutter. It reminds me too of interrogation techniques, each answer becomes another question. I don't see hate from this left you imagine. BLM protests etc were peaceful compared to the Jan 6Th white supremacists. That is fact.
https://www.newsweek.com/hate-crimes-under-trump-surged-nearly-20-percent-says-fbi-report-1547870
Russia collusion is well documented, if you doubt read a book that will give you lots of detail. 'Hiding in Plain Sight: The Invention of Donald Trump and the Erosion of America'. I know you won't read it, but maybe others will. This article covers the collusion as well:
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/08/bipartisan-senate-report-shows-2016-trump-russia-collusion.html
Trump proved nothing as you gave me no supporting reference. Proof please. I'm not sure what leftist means to you but modern so called religious conservatives are not very religious given their support of Trump who made the mess at our border and preached hate from the moment he aspired to be president. You do remember his words.
Regarding Lewis and Christianity, this article is interesting for readers who like to dig down.
https://www.currentaffairs.org/2020/09/was-jesus-a-socialist
PS T, Nothing fazes me, been there done that etc etc.... But if you want to learn read the book. Bet you can't. It would be like the devil bathing in holy water.
More bull shit from the lying lib. You know good and well O'Keefe caught all these libs telling the truth on video, then you post a link to a lying leftist site?
Son, you've lost all credibility here, so maybe it's time for you to move on, you outed yourself for the lying Marxist you are.
Quote from: midcan5 on April 30, 2021, 02:34:13 PM
T HUnt, I don't consider James Edward O'Keefe III a reliable source of information but nice try. Give me some sources that can be trusted. Thanks.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/project-veritas/
Earlier comment reply:
Finland was again voted most happy. One must recognize a simple fact of life, we see the world as we are not as it is. I'd like to get to Finland some day, ancestors came from that area per DNA. But I must acknowledge on further study, it is not socialism but a better run social capitalism.
https://www.businessinsider.com/finland-has-capitalist-economy-why-are-finns-so-much-happier-2020-2
Solar, Explanation? That report card is from conservative republicans rating other republicans based on their values concerning the presidential election and subsequent insurrection. I give them great credit as they spoke out, too many just follow today.
T Hunt, I don't consider it efficient I consider it clutter. It reminds me too of interrogation techniques, each answer becomes another question. I don't see hate from this left you imagine. BLM protests etc were peaceful compared to the Jan 6Th white supremacists. That is fact.
https://www.newsweek.com/hate-crimes-under-trump-surged-nearly-20-percent-says-fbi-report-1547870
Russia collusion is well documented, if you doubt read a book that will give you lots of detail. 'Hiding in Plain Sight: The Invention of Donald Trump and the Erosion of America'. I know you won't read it, but maybe others will. This article covers the collusion as well:
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/08/bipartisan-senate-report-shows-2016-trump-russia-collusion.html
Trump proved nothing as you gave me no supporting reference. Proof please. I'm not sure what leftist means to you but modern so called religious conservatives are not very religious given their support of Trump who made the mess at our border and preached hate from the moment he aspired to be president. You do remember his words.
Regarding Lewis and Christianity, this article is interesting for readers who like to dig down.
https://www.currentaffairs.org/2020/09/was-jesus-a-socialist
PS T, Nothing fazes me, been there done that etc etc.... But if you want to learn read the book. Bet you can't. It would be like the devil bathing in holy water.
Well, if that is a fact, what was burned down on Jan. 6th? What stores were looted? Were any weapons displayed?
Quote from: midcan5 on April 30, 2021, 02:34:13 PM
T HUnt, I don't consider James Edward O'Keefe III a reliable source of information but nice try. Give me some sources that can be trusted. Thanks.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/project-veritas/
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
So you dont trust right wing sources but you do trust left wing sources. Despite the fact that the right is morally superior to the left? Despite the fact that the left has a track record of manipulation and propaganda?
So you dont consider anyone on the right trustworthy, proving you have Conservative Derangement Syndrome. Might wanna get that looked at...
QuoteEarlier comment reply:
Finland was again voted most happy. One must recognize a simple fact of life, we see the world as we are not as it is. I'd like to get to Finland some day, ancestors came from that area per DNA. But I must acknowledge on further study, it is not socialism but a better run social capitalism.
https://www.businessinsider.com/finland-has-capitalist-economy-why-are-finns-so-much-happier-2020-2
Happiness is not an objective standard by which to measure. By any objective standard america is superior in every major way.
No I do not see the world as I am, that is what the left does. The right sees the world as it is.
QuoteT Hunt, I don't consider it efficient I consider it clutter. It reminds me too of interrogation techniques, each answer becomes another question.
So you hate it because it works to expose you, LOL, srry but you will be answered tit for tat, despite you hating how effective that is.
QuoteI don't see hate from this left you imagine.
You mean the deepstate which just stole an election and made up the russiagate hoax and the covid hoax? Thanks for admitting you are living in a bubble, LOL
QuoteBLM protests etc were peaceful compared to the Jan 6Th white supremacists. That is fact.
LOL since thats a fairytale, now you will have to provide evidence for that or you will have to retract that statement. Not allowed to spread lies on here... :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
Quotehttps://www.newsweek.com/hate-crimes-under-trump-surged-nearly-20-percent-says-fbi-report-1547870
The same FBI that got caught illegally spying on trump and then illegally opening an investigation into him without evidence? That FBI?
QuoteRussia collusion is well documented, if you doubt read a book that will give you lots of detail. 'Hiding in Plain Sight: The Invention of Donald Trump and the Erosion of America'. I know you won't read it, but maybe others will. This article covers the collusion as well:
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/08/bipartisan-senate-report-shows-2016-trump-russia-collusion.html
But what about all the emails written by obama where he literally makes up russian collusion and admits there is no evidence? Srry dear, but that proves it was made up and the article you shared is just fake news. Just the facts ma'am, LOL
QuoteTrump proved nothing as you gave me no supporting reference. Proof please.
Yes he did, you are still ignoring all the conversations released where obama admits there is no evidence of collusion and they just made it up. Did you miss last summer when all that came out? I thought you were informed...
If not then search this forum, its all on here, we documented it well at the time. Come back when you are an adult you can inform themselves instead of demanding info be spoon fed to you.
QuoteI'm not sure what leftist means to you but modern so called religious conservatives are not very religious given their support of Trump who made the mess at our border and preached hate from the moment he aspired to be president. You do remember his words.
Again, since that didnt happen, you will have to prove that trump did that or you will get a time out. Proof please, LOL
QuoteRegarding Lewis and Christianity, this article is interesting for readers who like to dig down.
https://www.currentaffairs.org/2020/09/was-jesus-a-socialist
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
This tired old argument? Have you nothing new???
No srry Jesus was not a socialist in any way shape or form. Here is a simple passage where Jesus spits on the idea of socialism,
"He who shall not work, shall not eat." 2Th 3:10
QuotePS T, Nothing fazes me, been there done that etc etc.... But if you want to learn read the book. Bet you can't. It would be like the devil bathing in holy water.
No ones trying to faze you, you are doing a fine job of that to yourself. We just want you to realize that you are a parrot for the deepstate and stop spreading their lies without evidence.
Based on how uninformed you are regarding most things in the world, it seems Ive done more reading already then you will your entire life.
Keep trying tho...
Quote from: midcan5 on April 30, 2021, 02:34:13 PM
T HUnt, I don't consider James Edward O'Keefe III a reliable source of information but nice try. Give me some sources that can be trusted. Thanks.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/project-veritas/
Earlier comment reply:
Finland was again voted most happy. One must recognize a simple fact of life, we see the world as we are not as it is. I'd like to get to Finland some day, ancestors came from that area per DNA. But I must acknowledge on further study, it is not socialism but a better run social capitalism.
https://www.businessinsider.com/finland-has-capitalist-economy-why-are-finns-so-much-happier-2020-2
Solar, Explanation? That report card is from conservative republicans rating other republicans based on their values concerning the presidential election and subsequent insurrection. I give them great credit as they spoke out, too many just follow today.
T Hunt, I don't consider it efficient I consider it clutter. It reminds me too of interrogation techniques, each answer becomes another question. I don't see hate from this left you imagine. BLM protests etc were peaceful compared to the Jan 6Th white supremacists. That is fact.
https://www.newsweek.com/hate-crimes-under-trump-surged-nearly-20-percent-says-fbi-report-1547870
Russia collusion is well documented, if you doubt read a book that will give you lots of detail. 'Hiding in Plain Sight: The Invention of Donald Trump and the Erosion of America'. I know you won't read it, but maybe others will. This article covers the collusion as well:
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/08/bipartisan-senate-report-shows-2016-trump-russia-collusion.html
Trump proved nothing as you gave me no supporting reference. Proof please. I'm not sure what leftist means to you but modern so called religious conservatives are not very religious given their support of Trump who made the mess at our border and preached hate from the moment he aspired to be president. You do remember his words.
Regarding Lewis and Christianity, this article is interesting for readers who like to dig down.
https://www.currentaffairs.org/2020/09/was-jesus-a-socialist
PS T, Nothing fazes me, been there done that etc etc.... But if you want to learn read the book. Bet you can't. It would be like the devil bathing in holy water.
Oh my, you're the perfect liberal...an uneducated idiot....
Do you smoke dope too? Just curious...
Quote from: Owebo on April 30, 2021, 03:45:09 PM
Oh my, you're the perfect liberal...an uneducated idiot....
Do you smoke dope too? Just curious...
Nah, oxygen deprived at birth and dropped on his head to restart his heart. Backwoods Canadian doctors practicing the old ways.
Liberalism/leftist/marxism is a mental disorder. Fortunately there aren't that many of them. They blather and grunt, come up with one pathetic excuse after the next trying to make a point. Why? I'm not sure. There is no conviction, no loyalty except to the prevailing wind.
When asked for facts to bolster our opinions and after giving such, they resort to "ya but" or "that isn't reliable" in their opinion. You have to ask yourself why in the face of the mounting evidence that brain death is very common among these people, should they be allowed to vote? The ability to reason ends up like a pretzel, round and round until tied up into a knot that can't be undone.
Finland is an example of socialism that works? Really? Brain death. You know, I'll bet ol midcan5 being the socialist that he is, doesn't send extra money to the IRS just to claim smugness. Chairman Xiden and Satan's Whore would love this guy. He yammers on, talks in riddles, thinks he's the brightest bulb in the room and after all is said and done, he's offered nothing of substance.
Reality is a bitch, we get it. But really, trying to defend the crap in DC? He should realize we hate RINO's as much as marxist.
The founding documents: learn it, live it, love it. Otherwise you have no value to the nation.
Thanks all for your input. Hopefully some consideration and thought came from this thread's dialogue and the conservative republican's report card.
Busy Sunday for us, how about you folk? Grandson's team lost in the Flag football. And there is always work around the house even on Sundays. Hope you all are doing well and enjoying the Spring weather. With things opening up I am hoping we can hit the road again. Backroad America is my favorite place to be. Maybe I'll see you there.
"To compare life to a road can indeed be fruitful in many ways, but we must consider how life is unlike a road. In a physical sense a road is an external actuality, no matter whether anyone is walking on it or not, no matter how the individual travels on it-the road is the road. But in the spiritual sense, the road comes into existence only when we walk on it. That is, the road is how it is walked."
Soren Kierkegaard, 'Provocations'
Quote from: midcan5 on May 02, 2021, 02:37:45 PM
Thanks all for your input. Hopefully some consideration and thought came from this thread's dialogue and the conservative republican's report card.
Busy Sunday for us, how about you folk? Grandson's team lost in the Flag football. And there is always work around the house even on Sundays. Hope you all are doing well and enjoying the Spring weather. With things opening up I am hoping we can hit the road again. Backroad America is my favorite place to be. Maybe I'll see you there.
"To compare life to a road can indeed be fruitful in many ways, but we must consider how life is unlike a road. In a physical sense a road is an external actuality, no matter whether anyone is walking on it or not, no matter how the individual travels on it-the road is the road. But in the spiritual sense, the road comes into existence only when we walk on it. That is, the road is how it is walked."
Soren Kierkegaard, 'Provocations'
We'll look for the 'Yes We Can' and believe bumper stickers on your Prius.....
Quote from: midcan5 on May 02, 2021, 02:37:45 PM
Thanks all for your input. Hopefully some consideration and thought came from this thread's dialogue and the conservative republican's report card.
Busy Sunday for us, how about you folk? Grandson's team lost in the Flag football. And there is always work around the house even on Sundays. Hope you all are doing well and enjoying the Spring weather. With things opening up I am hoping we can hit the road again. Backroad America is my favorite place to be. Maybe I'll see you there.
"To compare life to a road can indeed be fruitful in many ways, but we must consider how life is unlike a road. In a physical sense a road is an external actuality, no matter whether anyone is walking on it or not, no matter how the individual travels on it-the road is the road. But in the spiritual sense, the road comes into existence only when we walk on it. That is, the road is how it is walked."
Soren Kierkegaard, 'Provocations'
Well I spent a day looking for fishing high-wader, as I have to read all your BS you post. And no I do not "compare life to a road," as "fruitful." I know a road is in existence even if I don't walk on it. If I am looking for "spiritual sense" I will walk my 380 acre of land that God made and talk with God.
Quote from: walkstall on May 02, 2021, 06:05:24 PM
Well I spent a day looking for fishing high-wader, as I have to read all your BS you post. And no I do not "compare life to a road," as "fruitful." I know a road is in existence even if I don't walk on it. If I am looking for "spiritual sense" I will walk my 380 acre of land that God made and talk with God.
Amen
Buick Lacrosse and GMC today, ain't into battery autos. My 55 Chevy was my first love, blew the engine racing. Those were the days, "American Graffiti' no college, military for our class.
Solar, I started the book I mentioned above, kinda funny as she talks about her time in the Air Force stationed stateside. Not sure if you served but I'm sure for many it was/is a similar experience. I'm fascinated by the cult experience as rarely do members write about them.
Lauren Hough, 'Leaving Isn't the Hardest Thing'
Quote from: midcan5 on May 03, 2021, 04:57:02 AM
Buick Lacrosse and GMC today, ain't into battery autos. My 55 Chevy was my first love, blew the engine racing. Those were the days, "American Graffiti' no college, military for our class.
Solar, I started the book I mentioned above, kinda funny as she talks about her time in the Air Force stationed stateside. Not sure if you served but I'm sure for many it was/is a similar experience. I'm fascinated by the cult experience as rarely do members write about them.
Lauren Hough, 'Leaving Isn't the Hardest Thing'
Are you still here? Why? No one gives a fuck what a Marxist thinks!
Quote from: Solar on May 03, 2021, 05:01:58 AM
Are you still here? Why? No one gives a fuck what a Marxist thinks!
Hes desperate to derail the thread, :lol: :lol: :lol:
His handlers are refusing to pay him unless he gets results...