I admit, I am not a political expert that most people on these boards are. I donated money in 2007/8 to Ron Paul, and to Dennis Kucinich who convinced me that he is against establishment. in 2004 I voted for John Kerry although I wanted to vote for Nader, but he was not on the ballot, in 2000 I was swindled into voting for George Bush who promised no nation building. up until quite recently I believed Alex Jones was a voice against the establishment, but when I tried to contact him with an advice for a political solution, I had absolutely no success but I noticed what his solution is - he is selling iodine and food packets, that seems to be his solution. and from then on I fail to distinguish between someone like Hillary Clinton speaking out against establishment of Bush, or Alex Jones and Jesse Ventura speaking out against establishment of all the recent US front men. I even joined Stormfront few days ago, then noticed it is a white power movement, and I did not mind at first (since I am as white as any of them) but quickly realized that that movement is also controlled definitely not by whites, but by someone whose intent it is to control the opposition (more like Zionists)

So here I am. who can I trust, and what do we do? all I can think of is making speeches, and I made lots of them, not sure if it's ok to post links of them here, since it is my first post, please advise. the reason I am making speeches is because anyone can copy paste these days.

You should just turn in your voter registration card and keep watching sit-coms.

Based on what you wrote, you have one Hell of a lot to learn about politics and life in general.
You may be better served, to simply sit, back and read the forum before you venture any further.

Quote from: Solar on December 19, 2013, 10:38:16 AM
Based on what you wrote, you have one Hell of a lot to learn about politics and life in general.
You may be better served, to simply sit, back and read the forum before you venture any further.

For me it sounds more like he has made up his mind as a bottom feeder.

Quote from: Solar on December 19, 2013, 10:38:16 AM
Based on what you wrote, you have one Hell of a lot to learn about politics and life in general.
You may be better served, to simply sit, back and read the forum before you venture any further.

I smashed my television sets back in the early 90's, I think that is the main reason I am not as your average American political genius.

Quote from: walkstall on December 19, 2013, 10:47:34 AM
For me it sounds more like he has made up his mind as a bottom feeder.

I believe he is completely ignorant of history.
Hillary is a Marxist at heart, Kucinich is a true blood socialist, Alex Jones sees evil under every rock, Nader is not only a socialist, but an idiot to boot.
Then he joins a racist hate site and expects different results, yet not once has he even considered the Conservative approach, of less govt intervention.

Yeah, I could go on and on, but everyone here doesn't need the obvious repeated.

Quote from: newworldgovernment on December 19, 2013, 10:33:47 AM
I admit, I am not a political expert that most people on these boards are. I donated money in 2007/8 to Ron Paul, and to Dennis Kucinich who convinced me that he is against establishment. in 2004 I voted for John Kerry although I wanted to vote for Nader, but he was not on the ballot, in 2000 I was swindled into voting for George Bush who promised no nation building. up until quite recently I believed Alex Jones was a voice against the establishment, but when I tried to contact him with an advice for a political solution, I had absolutely no success but I noticed what his solution is - he is selling iodine and food packets, that seems to be his solution. and from then on I fail to distinguish between someone like Hillary Clinton speaking out against establishment of Bush, or Alex Jones and Jesse Ventura speaking out against establishment of all the recent US front men. I even joined Stormfront few days ago, then noticed it is a white power movement, and I did not mind at first (since I am as white as any of them) but quickly realized that that movement is also controlled definitely not by whites, but by someone whose intent it is to control the opposition (more like Zionists)

So here I am. who can I trust, and what do we do? all I can think of is making speeches, and I made lots of them, not sure if it's ok to post links of them here, since it is my first post, please advise. the reason I am making speeches is because anyone can copy paste these days.

Based on the folks you have supported it is clear you have been confused. I think Solar gave you somw awfully good advice below:

"You may be better served, to simply sit, back and read the forum before you venture any further."

You have about 10 months before the 2014 mid-terms so you have plenty of time to get up to speed.

Quote from: supsalemgr on December 19, 2013, 11:02:07 AM
Based on the folks you have supported it is clear you have been confused. I think Solar gave you somw awfully good advice below:

"You may be better served, to simply sit, back and read the forum before you venture any further."

You have about 10 months before the 2014 mid-terms so you have plenty of time to get up to speed.

Yep, I believe he needs to do some serious introspection and figure out what his core values are first, then see who more closely aligns with his ideals.

Quote from: Solar on December 19, 2013, 10:57:28 AMyet not once has he even considered the Conservative approach, of less govt intervention.

I voted first time for George Bush who ran as a Conservative in 2000, but research shows he actually expanded the government:

http://youtu.be/3DvwMrRzrPw

Quote from: Solar on December 19, 2013, 11:10:54 AM
Yep, I believe he needs to do some serious introspection and figure out what his core values are first, then see who more closely aligns with his ideals.

During times republican is POTUS, democrats always sing nicest and closest to my ideals, and during times democrat is POTUS, republicans sound the most honest.

Quote from: newworldgovernment on December 19, 2013, 11:20:56 AM
During times republican is POTUS, democrats always sing nicest and closest to my ideals, and during times democrat is POTUS, republicans sound the most honest.

Keep in mind that democrats never tell the truth about what they want to do, especially before an election. If they espoused their true feelings their wins would be isolated to the bluest of areas.

Quote from: newworldgovernment on December 19, 2013, 11:17:05 AM
I voted first time for George Bush who ran as a Conservative in 2000, but research shows he actually expanded the government:

http://youtu.be/3DvwMrRzrPw

Bush neither ran as a Consrvative, nor practiced as one.
Remember that "Kinder, Gentler" Bull shit? That is the heart of a pure RINO socialist masquerading as fiscal conservative.

You need to figure out if stealing from the producers (middle class) to give to those that produce nothing (welfare recipients) is aligned with your values, ie, socialism.
Or do you believe that what you earn is yours to do with as you see fit, donating to charity or starting a business that would create jobs for others.

Quote from: newworldgovernment on December 19, 2013, 11:20:56 AM
During times republican is POTUS, democrats always sing nicest and closest to my ideals, and during times democrat is POTUS, republicans sound the most honest.

Yes, both party's LIE! Look into the TEA.

Quote from: newworldgovernment on December 19, 2013, 11:20:56 AM
During times republican is POTUS, democrats always sing nicest and closest to my ideals, and during times democrat is POTUS, republicans sound the most honest.

Maybe this would be a good place for you to start. == What has happened to your Health Care situation?  Has it been canceled?  Are you on your employers plan which will be canceled next year?  Or were you able to keep your plan, period.     This should tell you who to trust.

Quote from: supsalemgr on December 19, 2013, 11:56:06 AM
Keep in mind that democrats never tell the truth about what they want to do, especially before an election. If they espoused their true feelings their wins would be isolated to the bluest of areas.

You have to vote for it to see what's in it!  Talk about transparency and change. 

The younger generation talks about paying for SS the government stole from us, just wait until they have to pay for b o care that they don't need yet and for all the freeloaders.