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Title: Dutch student needs conservative perspectives
Post by: anderooij on April 01, 2016, 12:45:24 PM
Hi all!

I am a Dutch student from the University of Amsterdam! I'm in the final phases of my Master 's degree in Political Science and progressing on my thesis. I am super interested in U.S. politics and the difference in stances during the elections.

To graduate, I actually NEED YOUR HELP!
https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/Q3WGFRG

I kindly ask as many of you to fill in this survey. Right now the conservative respondents are clearly in the minority and I would like to change this. So I think I'm at the right address here!
This is definitely not meant as spam or advertising for any purposes. Your contributions would just really benefit my research :smile:
The only criteria is that you are registered to vote in the US (and planning on going to).
It will take you no more than 5 minutes and you would help me out a lot!

Thanks so much for the effort,

Anouk
Title: Re: Dutch student needs conservative perspectives
Post by: taxed on April 01, 2016, 01:36:49 PM
How much are you going to pay us?
Title: Re: Dutch student needs conservative perspectives
Post by: anderooij on April 01, 2016, 01:41:35 PM
Quote from: taxed on April 01, 2016, 01:36:49 PM
How much are you going to pay us?

Haha! None. Just asking to help me out.
So far it's working!  :smile:
Title: Re: Dutch student needs conservative perspectives
Post by: Sauce on April 01, 2016, 01:43:01 PM
Quote from: anderooij on April 01, 2016, 12:45:24 PM

Right now the conservative respondents are clearly in the minority and I would like to change this. Thanks so much for the effort,

Anouk

I would be interested in why YOU think you quote above is the case....



Title: Re: Dutch student needs conservative perspectives
Post by: taxed on April 01, 2016, 01:47:21 PM
Quote from: anderooij on April 01, 2016, 01:41:35 PM
Haha! None. Just asking to help me out.
So far it's working!  :smile:

Why would I want you to graduate from school?  Should you be busy learning a marketable skill?
Title: Re: Dutch student needs conservative perspectives
Post by: anderooij on April 01, 2016, 01:48:50 PM
Quote from: Sauce on April 01, 2016, 01:43:01 PM
I would be interested in why YOU think you quote above is the case....

I meant in my survey. Right now, about 70% of all the respondents of my survey have made known they are either moderately or extremely liberal. Therefore, I feel some more conservative perspectives on the policy issues will make my research a lot more reliable.

So I was taking my chances here :)
Title: Re: Dutch student needs conservative perspectives
Post by: taxed on April 01, 2016, 01:50:17 PM
Quote from: anderooij on April 01, 2016, 01:48:50 PM
I meant in my survey. Right now, about 70% of all the respondents of my survey have made known they are either moderately or extremely liberal. Therefore, I feel some more conservative perspectives on the policy issues will make my research a lot more reliable.

So I was taking my chances here :)

Liberals don't have perspective.  They're too stupid.
Title: Re: Dutch student needs conservative perspectives
Post by: Billy's bayonet on April 02, 2016, 04:36:59 AM
Quote from: anderooij on April 01, 2016, 01:48:50 PM
I meant in my survey. Right now, about 70% of all the respondents of my survey have made known they are either moderately or extremely liberal. Therefore, I feel some more conservative perspectives on the policy issues will make my research a lot more reliable.

So I was taking my chances here :)


Conservatives usually don't do surveys or polls....waste of time since most of them are made by and for liberals.
Title: Re: Dutch student needs conservative perspectives
Post by: Mountainshield on April 02, 2016, 04:53:19 AM
If you are European then use statistically representative data sets like ESS or something, I can't believe your University would accept an internet survey as data for your thesis/model. Then again you are Dutch and it is modern higher education...
Title: Re: Dutch student needs conservative perspectives
Post by: Sauce on April 02, 2016, 06:19:12 AM
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on April 02, 2016, 04:36:59 AM

Conservatives usually don't do surveys or polls....waste of time since most of them are made by and for liberals.

BillyB, I will mail you the chicken dinner.....Dutchboy, no chicken dinner for you!
Title: Re: Dutch student needs conservative perspectives
Post by: walkstall on April 02, 2016, 07:09:39 AM
Quote from: taxed on April 01, 2016, 01:50:17 PM
Liberals don't have perspective.  They're too stupid.

It must be that time a year.  They need someone to do there homework. 
Title: Re: Dutch student needs conservative perspectives
Post by: Dori on April 02, 2016, 09:14:01 AM
Quote from: anderooij on April 01, 2016, 12:45:24 PM
Hi all!

I am a Dutch student from the University of Amsterdam! I'm in the final phases of my Master 's degree in Political Science and progressing on my thesis. I am super interested in U.S. politics and the difference in stances during the elections.

To graduate, I actually NEED YOUR HELP!
https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/Q3WGFRG

I kindly ask as many of you to fill in this survey. Right now the conservative respondents are clearly in the minority and I would like to change this. So I think I'm at the right address here!
This is definitely not meant as spam or advertising for any purposes. Your contributions would just really benefit my research :smile:
The only criteria is that you are registered to vote in the US (and planning on going to).
It will take you no more than 5 minutes and you would help me out a lot!

Thanks so much for the effort,

Anouk

Hi Anouk.

I like having young people come here.  And I filled out your survey.  Had much response?

I'm somewhat curious about the Dutch, I have Dutch ancestors that go back to the 1600's.  My neighbor is a more recent descendant.  Do the Dutch still use the same naming patterns?  Adding 'son and van to names?
Title: Re: Dutch student needs conservative perspectives
Post by: supsalemgr on April 02, 2016, 09:47:05 AM
I took your survey. I hope you will stick around and see what conservative in the US is all about. I would suspect what you are receiving from the media available to you in The Netherlands is nowhere close to reality.
Title: Re: Dutch student needs conservative perspectives
Post by: anderooij on April 02, 2016, 11:08:42 AM
Quote from: Mountainshield on April 02, 2016, 04:53:19 AM
If you are European then use statistically representative data sets like ESS or something, I can't believe your University would accept an internet survey as data for your thesis/model. Then again you are Dutch and it is modern higher education...

Hey! The results of this survey will form a database which will be analyzed with the statistics program SPSS. Also, my findings will mainly consist of qualitative data with the results of this survey to strengthen the arguments.
Title: Re: Dutch student needs conservative perspectives
Post by: taxed on April 02, 2016, 11:10:24 AM
Quote from: anderooij on April 02, 2016, 11:08:42 AM
Hey! The results of this survey will form a database which will be analyzed with the statistics program SPSS. Also, my findings will mainly consist of qualitative data with the results of this survey to strengthen the arguments.

I..... I'm confused.
Title: Re: Dutch student needs conservative perspectives
Post by: anderooij on April 02, 2016, 11:11:56 AM
Quote from: Dori on April 02, 2016, 09:14:01 AM
Hi Anouk.

I like having young people come here.  And I filled out your survey.  Had much response?

I'm somewhat curious about the Dutch, I have Dutch ancestors that go back to the 1600's.  My neighbor is a more recent descendant.  Do the Dutch still use the same naming patterns?  Adding 'son and van to names?

Cool! Yes, actually a lot of Dutch last names still include either 'de' or 'van' or 'van de'. Pretty common here.
Title: Re: Dutch student needs conservative perspectives
Post by: anderooij on April 02, 2016, 11:14:06 AM
Quote from: taxed on April 02, 2016, 11:10:24 AM
I..... I'm confused.

Lol. Sorry, meant that I'll use a lot of literature and interviews and the results of this survey combined to come to any conclusions.
Title: Re: Dutch student needs conservative perspectives
Post by: Solar on April 02, 2016, 11:23:23 AM
What, no TEA?

* 16. Do you usually think of yourself as a Republican, Democrat, or an independent? Consider strong/not strong Republican/Democrat.

If independent, if you had to say, do you tend to lean more toward Republicans or Democrats?

Strong Republican

Not strong Republican

Independent lean Republican

Independent

Independent lean Democrat

Not strong Democrat

Strong Democrat

Other
Other (please specify)
Title: Re: Dutch student needs conservative perspectives
Post by: anderooij on April 02, 2016, 11:25:20 AM
Quote from: Solar on April 02, 2016, 11:23:23 AM
What, no TEA?

* 16. Do you usually think of yourself as a Republican, Democrat, or an independent? Consider strong/not strong Republican/Democrat.

If independent, if you had to say, do you tend to lean more toward Republicans or Democrats?

Strong Republican

Not strong Republican

Independent lean Republican

Independent

Independent lean Democrat

Not strong Democrat

Strong Democrat

Other
Other (please specify)

Would fall into the 'other' category.
Title: Re: Dutch student needs conservative perspectives
Post by: taxed on April 02, 2016, 11:27:08 AM
Quote from: anderooij on April 02, 2016, 11:14:06 AM
Lol. Sorry, meant that I'll use a lot of literature and interviews and the results of this survey combined to come to any conclusions.

Oh... that clears it up.
Title: Re: Dutch student needs conservative perspectives
Post by: Solar on April 02, 2016, 11:31:56 AM
Quote from: anderooij on April 02, 2016, 11:25:20 AM
Would fall into the 'other' category.
This is a failing of outsiders attempting to understand American politics.
Neither party represents the interests of it's constituency.
The GOP today, would have been considered left of the 1960 Dim party, while today's Dim party is left of UK's Fabian labor party.

TEA represents the majority of what consists of the Republican base, while the leadership pushes a leftist agenda that even Dims marvel at.
Point is, your questionnaire doesn't really represent political reality in the US.
Title: Re: Dutch student needs conservative perspectives
Post by: Mountainshield on April 04, 2016, 02:17:58 AM
Quote from: anderooij on April 02, 2016, 11:08:42 AM
Hey! The results of this survey will form a database which will be analyzed with the statistics program SPSS. Also, my findings will mainly consist of qualitative data with the results of this survey to strengthen the arguments.

I see, if you are using qualitative method then I suggest asking more in depth questions here to the different topics to get more substantial and informative answers, as a European myself this site has provided me with better perspective on American conservatism.

And sorry for the snooty attitude before, there are a lot of libs/students lazily shitting their unprofessional surveys on this site so my initial response to your thread was based on that prejudice.
Title: Re: Dutch student needs conservative perspectives
Post by: anderooij on April 04, 2016, 03:48:04 PM
Quote from: Mountainshield on April 04, 2016, 02:17:58 AM
I see, if you are using qualitative method then I suggest asking more in depth questions here to the different topics to get more substantial and informative answers, as a European myself this site has provided me with better perspective on American conservatism.

And sorry for the snooty attitude before, there are a lot of libs/students lazily shitting their unprofessional surveys on this site so my initial response to your thread was based on that prejudice.

I actually just travelled from Amsterdam to the US today so I will do some qualitative research as in interviews here for 2 weeks!
And no worries, I can imagine.
Title: Re: Dutch student needs conservative perspectives
Post by: Solar on April 04, 2016, 03:55:51 PM
Quote from: anderooij on April 04, 2016, 03:48:04 PM
I actually just travelled from Amsterdam to the US today so I will do some qualitative research as in interviews here for 2 weeks!
And no worries, I can imagine.
Find a quality TEA party meeting to attend.
Title: Re: Dutch student needs conservative perspectives
Post by: Billy's bayonet on April 04, 2016, 05:23:15 PM
Quote from: anderooij on April 04, 2016, 03:48:04 PM
I actually just travelled from Amsterdam to the US today so I will do some qualitative research as in interviews here for 2 weeks!
And no worries, I can imagine.


Do yourself a BIIIGGGGG Favor and stay away from the large cities, go out into the countryside and seek out the small towns off the beaten path....you will find the REAL America....and you will be perfectly safe.
Title: Re: Dutch student needs conservative perspectives
Post by: Solar on April 04, 2016, 05:46:37 PM
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on April 04, 2016, 05:23:15 PM

Do yourself a BIIIGGGGG Favor and stay away from the large cities, go out into the countryside and seek out the small towns off the beaten path....you will find the REAL America....and you will be perfectly safe.
YES!!! And the people will happily welcome you to the community.
Title: Re: Dutch student needs conservative perspectives
Post by: Possum on April 04, 2016, 05:52:38 PM
Quote from: anderooij on April 04, 2016, 03:48:04 PM
I actually just travelled from Amsterdam to the US today so I will do some qualitative research as in interviews here for 2 weeks!
And no worries, I can imagine.
While you are in the states, swing by Texas so you can add another country to your research. :thumbsup: It will not be hard to find conservatives.
Title: Re: Dutch student needs conservative perspectives
Post by: quiller on April 04, 2016, 06:04:11 PM
Quote from: s3779m on April 04, 2016, 05:52:38 PM
  While you are in the states, swing by Texas so you can add another country to your research. :thumbsup: It will not be hard to find conservatives.

Another country? Did you seriously try that one on the foreigner?  :lol:

I spent ten years in Dallas, one week. I wish some of it had been at a decent gun range.
Title: Re: Dutch student needs conservative perspectives
Post by: anderooij on April 04, 2016, 06:05:31 PM
Quote from: s3779m on April 04, 2016, 05:52:38 PM
  While you are in the states, swing by Texas so you can add another country to your research. :thumbsup: It will not be hard to find conservatives.

Another country?
Currently planning on visiting Virginia Beach. Supposed to be one of the most conservative places according to academic research done in 2015.
Title: Re: Dutch student needs conservative perspectives
Post by: quiller on April 04, 2016, 06:13:56 PM
Quote from: anderooij on April 04, 2016, 06:05:31 PM
Another country?
Currently planning on visiting Virginia Beach. Supposed to be one of the most conservative places according to academic research done in 2015.

Strong military and defense-oriented area.
Title: Re: Dutch student needs conservative perspectives
Post by: supsalemgr on April 05, 2016, 04:42:14 AM
Quote from: s3779m on April 04, 2016, 05:52:38 PM
  While you are in the states, swing by Texas so you can add another country to your research. :thumbsup: It will not be hard to find conservatives.

If you are going to spend your time in large NE US cities you will not get a true feel for how the country thinks.
Title: Re: Dutch student needs conservative perspectives
Post by: Billy's bayonet on April 05, 2016, 06:27:19 AM
Quote from: anderooij on April 04, 2016, 06:05:31 PM
Another country?
Currently planning on visiting Virginia Beach. Supposed to be one of the most conservative places according to academic research done in 2015.

Virginia beach is Okay, lot of tourists so that changes the flavor somewhat...I've also noted it is a vacation spot for LOTS of people from Canada, notably Quebec who come there during the summer months.

You might run into some bikers, not the "outlaw" type but usually the weekend warriors who are a great bunch of folks.

Try visiting some other towns in Virginia, (Avoid hi crime Richmond) head west on 460 stopping at the little towns along the way, read the signs dealing with the Civil war and the retreat of the confederate army, stop at the little cafe's and diners instead of the fast food joints. Try and make it to Lynchburg, a college town with a rather religious bent. See how polite everyone is.

Then onto Bedford the antique center and Finally Roanoke with its great little strip of night life with outdoor cafe's & restuarants. In the warmer months you can try North Carolina, try to visit & stay at some of the camp grounds and lakes. You might even try some of the gold panning and gem hunting sites in the Mountains....you'll have a blast and meet some great people.

Also look into checking out Tennessee, West Virginia and Pennsylvania, again avoid the big cities travel on the secondary roads never miss the opportunity to check out an antique show, a flea market, a county fair, a fireman's carnival an antique car show.
Title: Re: Dutch student needs conservative perspectives
Post by: Solar on April 05, 2016, 06:49:09 AM
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on April 05, 2016, 06:27:19 AM
Virginia beach is Okay, lot of tourists so that changes the flavor somewhat...I've also noted it is a vacation spot for LOTS of people from Canada, notably Quebec who come there during the summer months.

You might run into some bikers, not the "outlaw" type but usually the weekend warriors who are a great bunch of folks.

Try visiting some other towns in Virginia, (Avoid hi crime Richmond) head west on 460 stopping at the little towns along the way, read the signs dealing with the Civil war and the retreat of the confederate army, stop at the little cafe's and diners instead of the fast food joints. Try and make it to Lynchburg, a college town with a rather religious bent. See how polite everyone is.

Then onto Bedford the antique center and Finally Roanoke with its great little strip of night life with outdoor cafe's & restuarants. In the warmer months you can try North Carolina, try to visit & stay at some of the camp grounds and lakes. You might even try some of the gold panning and gem hunting sites in the Mountains....you'll have a blast and meet some great people.

Also look into checking out Tennessee, West Virginia and Pennsylvania, again avoid the big cities travel on the secondary roads never miss the opportunity to check out an antique show, a flea market, a county fair, a fireman's carnival an antique car show.
Good advice.
It's like people coming to Calif. and only stopping in SanFranfreako, thinking they just experienced the entire state.
Fact is, it's akin to visiting an insane asylum and thinking you just visited all hospitals in the US.
Title: Re: Dutch student needs conservative perspectives
Post by: walkstall on April 05, 2016, 06:54:53 AM
Quote from: Solar on April 05, 2016, 06:49:09 AM
Good advice.
It's like people coming to Calif. and only stopping in SanFranfreako, thinking they just experienced the entire state.
Fact is, it's akin to visiting an insane asylum and thinking you just visited all hospitals in the US.


SanFranfreako was not bad 45 years ago.  You just had to be out of town by 5:00 P.M.    :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Dutch student needs conservative perspectives
Post by: Solar on April 05, 2016, 07:08:22 AM
Quote from: walkstall on April 05, 2016, 06:54:53 AM

SanFranfreako was not bad 45 years ago.  You just had to be out of town by 5:00 P.M.    :lol: :lol: :lol:
That's very true...
Title: Re: Dutch student needs conservative perspectives
Post by: Dori on April 05, 2016, 12:01:17 PM
Quote from: Solar on April 05, 2016, 06:49:09 AM
Good advice.
It's like people coming to Calif. and only stopping in SanFranfreako, thinking they just experienced the entire state.
Fact is, it's akin to visiting an insane asylum and thinking you just visited all hospitals in the US.

That's so true.  I've been all over CA and it's made up of thousands of little towns and big cities that have no resemblance to one another, and that includes the type of people living in them. 
Title: Re: Dutch student needs conservative perspectives
Post by: Solar on April 05, 2016, 12:29:07 PM
Quote from: Dori on April 05, 2016, 12:01:17 PM
That's so true.  I've been all over CA and it's made up of thousands of little towns and big cities that have no resemblance to one another, and that includes the type of people living in them.
Exactly! SF is nothing like it's neighbor San Jose, nor Sacto like it's neighbor Placerville, all literally alien states within a state.
Title: Re: Dutch student needs conservative perspectives
Post by: anderooij on April 05, 2016, 02:26:35 PM
Quote from: supsalemgr on April 05, 2016, 04:42:14 AM
If you are going to spend your time in large NE US cities you will not get a true feel for how the country thinks.

I'm planning on visiting a few small cities in the area of Virginia Beach while I'm there.
Gonna be really necessary though. For some reason there's a majority of liberals wanting to fill out the survey but it lacks conservative respondents.
Anyone any idea why this trend?
Title: Re: Dutch student needs conservative perspectives
Post by: Possum on April 05, 2016, 02:34:22 PM
Quote from: anderooij on April 05, 2016, 02:26:35 PM
I'm planning on visiting a few small cities in the area of Virginia Beach while I'm there.
Gonna be really necessary though. For some reason there's a majority of liberals wanting to fill out the survey but it lacks conservative respondents.
Anyone any idea why this trend?
No one ever asks a liberal for their opinion.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Dutch student needs conservative perspectives
Post by: supsalemgr on April 05, 2016, 02:51:25 PM
Quote from: anderooij on April 05, 2016, 02:26:35 PM
I'm planning on visiting a few small cities in the area of Virginia Beach while I'm there.
Gonna be really necessary though. For some reason there's a majority of liberals wanting to fill out the survey but it lacks conservative respondents.
Anyone any idea why this trend?

Conservatives usually go about doing things. Libs spend their time fantasizing about how things should be without any idea of reality. Liberalism defies reality.
Title: Re: Dutch student needs conservative perspectives
Post by: Solar on April 05, 2016, 04:39:21 PM
Quote from: anderooij on April 05, 2016, 02:26:35 PM
I'm planning on visiting a few small cities in the area of Virginia Beach while I'm there.
Gonna be really necessary though. For some reason there's a majority of liberals wanting to fill out the survey but it lacks conservative respondents.
Anyone any idea why this trend?
I gave you the answer, TEA.
Libs identify with the Dim party, Conservatives want to steal the GOP from the leftists.
You simply can't get a good feel for the situation when you have one group that's dumber than dirty laundry, and the other group trying to return to Founding principles.

You're trying to measure the temp of the suns output by taking sample temps on earth, it just doesn't work.