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Title: DNC lawsuit
Post by: redbeard on April 22, 2018, 01:45:02 PM
Quotehttps://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2018/04/22/dnc-chairman-defends-lawsuit-against-russia-trump-campaign-wikileaks/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.f9136fa82da2
DNC chairman defends lawsuit against Russia, Trump campaign, WikiLeaks

The chairman of the Democratic National Committee on Sunday defended a new multimillion-dollar lawsuit against the Russian government, the Trump campaign and WikiLeaks, with talk show hosts asking whether it was distracting from efforts to rebuild the Democratic Party.
"I don't know when Director Mueller's investigation is going to end, so we need to file now to protect our rights," Tom Perez said in an interview with ABC News's George Stephanopoulos, referring to special counsel Robert S. Mueller III's investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election. "We've got elections coming up in November. It's hard to win elections when you have interference in elections. They've done it with impunity, and I'm concerned that it's going to happen again. So, that's why we did it now."

What a great Opportunity for the Republicans to file a counter suit against the DNC for damage to individuals, the election process and the Trump administration that was all brought about by their funding with the Clinton campaign through the DNC law firm of fusion GPS of a foreign national ( steel) to effect the outcome of the 2016 election! The RNC should counter suit to recoup the cost of everyone's loses and legal fees incurred as a direct result of this unverified dossier.
Unlike the Dim's that have no proof of Trump Russia Collusion the RNC has plenty of proof of DNC funds going to Russians in an attempt to undermine the Trump campaign. As broke as the DNC is a major judgement against them could be a nail in their coffin!
Title: Re: DNC lawsuit
Post by: Solar on April 22, 2018, 01:49:58 PM
"It's hard to win elections when you have interference in elections"

Translation:
Trump caught us cheating and that 20% fraud vote is what we have relied on to stay in power.
Title: Re: DNC lawsuit
Post by: redbeard on April 22, 2018, 01:59:45 PM
Quote from: Solar on April 22, 2018, 01:49:58 PM
"It's hard to win elections when you have interference in elections"

Translation:
Trump caught us cheating and that 20% fraud vote is what we have relied on to stay in power.
So What do you think Solar? Do the republicans/ Trump campaign have good grounds for a counter suit? :lol:
Title: Re: DNC lawsuit
Post by: Solar on April 22, 2018, 04:19:57 PM
Quote from: redbeard on April 22, 2018, 01:59:45 PM
So What do you think Solar? Do the republicans/ Trump campaign have good grounds for a counter suit? :lol:
I don't know, I think Trump is way too busy indicting them, enough to bother suing a bankrupt Marxist party.
Can't bleed a chunk of burned out coal/coke. :biggrin:
Title: Re: DNC lawsuit
Post by: redbeard on April 22, 2018, 04:26:15 PM
Quote from: Solar on April 22, 2018, 04:19:57 PM
I don't know, I think Trump is way too busy indicting them, enough to bother suing a bankrupt Marxist party.
Can't bleed a chunk of burned out coal/coke. :biggrin:
Remember the southern poverty law center suit against the clan they were able to take all that clan property. I say go after the weasels!
Title: Re: DNC lawsuit
Post by: Possum on April 22, 2018, 05:42:34 PM
This might be a stupid question, but by naming the hacked server in the lawsuit, doesn't that give the republicans the right to investigate that server?
Title: Re: DNC lawsuit
Post by: redbeard on April 22, 2018, 05:51:54 PM
Quote from: s3779m on April 22, 2018, 05:42:34 PM
This might be a stupid question, but by naming the hacked server in the lawsuit, doesn't that give the republicans the right to investigate that server?
Or a neutral 3rd party appointed by the court IE: FBI:?
Title: Re: DNC lawsuit
Post by: zewazir on April 22, 2018, 06:22:09 PM
Quote from: s3779m on April 22, 2018, 05:42:34 PM
This might be a stupid question, but by naming the hacked server in the lawsuit, doesn't that give the republicans the right to investigate that server?
Trump's lawyers are already filing counter suit for discovery on all the servers named in the lawsuit, Clinton's emails, which were also referenced, and a whole host of other DNC skullduggery.

I have the feeling the demoncraps have really stepped in it this time.
Title: Re: DNC lawsuit
Post by: walkstall on April 22, 2018, 06:28:01 PM
Quote from: zewazir on April 22, 2018, 06:22:09 PM
Trump's lawyers are already filing counter suit for discovery on all the servers named in the lawsuit, Clinton's emails, which were also referenced, and a whole host of other DNC skullduggery.

I have the feeling the demoncraps have really stepped in it this time.


I am sure the DNC has pick out the judge and Jury for this.
Title: Re: DNC lawsuit
Post by: Cryptic Bert on April 22, 2018, 06:41:14 PM
A few points:

1) What do they hope to gain from a civil suit?
2) What is this evidence? Why haven't they presented it?
3) If their main objective is to have Trump removed from office, shouldn't they give this "mountain" of evidence to Mueller?
Title: Re: DNC lawsuit
Post by: zewazir on April 22, 2018, 06:49:48 PM
Quote from: walkstall on April 22, 2018, 06:28:01 PM

I am sure the DNC has pick out the judge and Jury for this.
Quite probable. But I don't see even the most rabidly progressive justice refusing or blocking discovery. Discovery is an automatic right in any civil lawsuit.
Title: Re: DNC lawsuit
Post by: zewazir on April 22, 2018, 06:52:25 PM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on April 22, 2018, 06:41:14 PM
A few points:

1) What do they hope to gain from a civil suit?
2) What is this evidence? Why haven't they presented it?
3) If their main objective is to have Trump removed from office, shouldn't they give this "mountain" of evidence to Mueller?
1: Because the rules for evidence are a lot less stringent in a civil case than in a criminal case.
2: There is none worthy of the name, hence civil action.
3: Because the mountain is not quite the size of a pimple on the nose of a sand flea.
Title: Re: DNC lawsuit
Post by: Cryptic Bert on April 22, 2018, 07:02:57 PM
Quote from: zewazir on April 22, 2018, 06:52:25 PM
1: Because the rules for evidence are a lot less stringent in a civil case than in a criminal case.
2: There is none worthy of the name, hence civil action.
3: Because the mountain is not quite the size of a pimple on the nose of a sand flea.

So they have less than nothing.
Title: Re: DNC lawsuit
Post by: redbeard on April 22, 2018, 07:14:57 PM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on April 22, 2018, 07:02:57 PM
So they have less than nothing.
Instead of talking about what the DNC doesn't have how about what to RNC does have that's provable for the counter suit? :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: DNC lawsuit
Post by: zewazir on April 22, 2018, 07:15:21 PM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on April 22, 2018, 07:02:57 PM
So they have less than nothing.
The have about two years worth of media headlines, a metric ton of hubris and innuendo, a FISA warrant gained by outright illegal means, and a whiny biatch who would rather insult every voter in the U.S. than admit to what a screw up she is.

But when talking evidence of collusion affecting the outcome of the election, (or of any other kind of collusion for that matter) they have what they have always had: nothing at all.

If it were otherwise, would they wait for a CIVIL suit to bring it out?  (I don't think so....)
Title: Re: DNC lawsuit
Post by: Cryptic Bert on April 22, 2018, 07:22:21 PM
Quote from: zewazir on April 22, 2018, 07:15:21 PM
The have about two years worth of media headlines, a metric ton of hubris and innuendo, a FISA warrant gained by outright illegal means, and a whiny biatch who would rather insult every voter in the U.S. than admit to what a screw up she is.

But when talking evidence of collusion affecting the outcome of the election, (or of any other kind of collusion for that matter) they have what they have always had: nothing at all.

If it were otherwise, would they wait for a CIVIL suit to bring it out?  (I don't think so....)

I'm thinking they don't believe the Mueller investigation will produce anything so they are doing this to try and keep the scandal on the front page leading up to the mid terms.
Title: Re: DNC lawsuit
Post by: T Hunt on April 22, 2018, 07:33:33 PM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on April 22, 2018, 06:41:14 PM
A few points:

1) What do they hope to gain from a civil suit?
2) What is this evidence? Why haven't they presented it?
3) If their main objective is to have Trump removed from office, shouldn't they give this "mountain" of evidence to Mueller?

1) i think that the dims think that they are being crafty, when they are actually being stupid. They know this wont go anywhere in the courts which leads me to believe this is all for the Optics for the Midterms. They just want this during election season and dont care about it after that cuz they think they will win congress and impeach trump. They are running on trump/russia hatred and this is only an attempt to bolster that.
2) they dont have any evidence, and they know it. Which leads me to believe it is only for show...
3) there is no evidence to give meuller, but u are right in saying they are doing this to get trump, and the only way this does that is by using this lawsuit to help win the midterms to impeach trump.

I dont think the ppl organizing this lawsuit even know about the level of corruption in their own party, or else why would they open themselves up like this? They must be believing their own parties lies and are fully convinced of trump/russian collusion and believe the dem party are truly the saints here, incapable of corruption.
Title: Re: DNC lawsuit
Post by: supsalemgr on April 23, 2018, 04:52:12 AM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on April 22, 2018, 07:22:21 PM
I'm thinking they don't believe the Mueller investigation will produce anything so they are doing this to try and keep the scandal on the front page leading up to the mid terms.

Bingo! This is nothing but red meat for the base. However, as many have posted here, this is likely to backfire on them as discovery works both ways.
Title: Re: DNC lawsuit
Post by: Walter Josh on April 23, 2018, 10:02:45 AM
Since the MSM and the DNC have been married
since FDR; they're just exchanging kisses here.
As for the Republicrats, they've been dead for generations, so
expecting them to initiate anything principled is er......laughable.
Could a secret ballot supporting Trump, from of all R's in the
House and Senate be arranged; he would lose!
Bet your life savings!!!!


Title: Re: DNC lawsuit
Post by: zewazir on April 23, 2018, 06:45:15 PM
Quote from: supsalemgr on April 23, 2018, 04:52:12 AM
Bingo! This is nothing but red meat for the base. However, as many have posted here, this is likely to backfire on them as discovery works both ways.
Red meat?  Don't you mean braised tofu?
Title: Re: DNC lawsuit
Post by: Cryptic Bert on April 23, 2018, 06:55:26 PM
One other thing. Adam Schiff has been claiming there is evidence for over a year. When is he going to produce it?
As this lawsuit moves forward the poomerang will do much damage.