The Department of Homeland Security is set to purchase a further 21.6 million rounds of ammunition to add to the 1.6 billion bullets it has already obtained over the course of the last 10 months alone, figures which have stoked concerns that the federal agency is preparing for civil unrest.
http://www.infowars.com/dhs-purchases-21-6-million-more-rounds-of-ammunition/ (http://www.infowars.com/dhs-purchases-21-6-million-more-rounds-of-ammunition/)
What about inflating prices? I'm not below suggesting they'd slit their own throat to get us.
Quote from: pisskop on February 07, 2013, 10:32:02 AM
What about inflating prices? I'm not below suggesting they'd slit their own throat to get us.
I tried ordering shotgun ammo on line just this morning and there are backlogs anywhere from 1 month out to May. That's not so say ammo can't be found locally for now, but it's cheaper on line. Nearly twice as much at a local gun shop. I actually put an order in last month that's still on backorder. Now some sites won't let you place an order. They will take your email address and notify you when you can place an order.
Sportman's Guide and Cabela's are the two sites I went to. There are a select few brands you can get but not what I wanted.
Like I said previously,
1. this is some whacko leftist idea to deprive american citizens of ammo, a gun is useless without ammo so the Govt is trying to buy it all up in an attempt at surrogate gun bans.
2. They are preparing for the mother of all battles
don't forget, the right reverend Jesse Jackass is calling for DHS to patrol Chicago.
If anything starts in will start in the inner city.
Billy
Two words....re load. Most components can still be had with the exception of 40 caliber, 9mm, and 22 caliber rifle...for now
Quote from: pisskop on February 07, 2013, 10:32:02 AM
What about inflating prices? I'm not below suggesting they'd slit their own throat to get us.
That has crossed my mind.
As an FYI.... I am always more than a bit skeptical on anything reported by infowars.
Alex Jones is a bit of a lunatic.
IMO.
Quote from: rich_t on February 07, 2013, 06:40:35 PM
As an FYI.... I am always more than a bit skeptical on anything reported by infowars.
Alex Jones is a bit of a lunatic.
IMO.
Absolutely agree!!!
But this article is a bit different in that it is full of links to Govt websites with the actual invoices.
He is a bit nuts, but he didn't write this one, in fact, you could almost say it wrote itself via the Govt.
One seriously has to question the intent behind this buy, less than 10 % of the purchase is for training ammo, and why do they need so many AR fully automatic rifles?
Something just doesn't add up, either we are paranoid, or the Husein administration is paranoid or preparing for war, a war that will have enough ammo to last 30 years?
I don't think were the paranoid ones here.
Quote from: Solar on February 07, 2013, 06:52:00 PM
Absolutely agree!!!
But this article is a bit different in that it is full of links to Govt websites with the actual invoices.
He is a bit nuts, but he didn't write this one, in fact, you could almost say it wrote itself via the Govt.
One seriously has to question the intent behind this buy, less than 10 % of the purchase is for training ammo, and why do they need so many AR fully automatic rifles?
Something just doesn't add up, either we are paranoid, or the Husein administration is paranoid or preparing for war, a war that will have enough ammo to last 30 years?
I don't think were the paranoid ones here.
Being a tad paranoid has kept me alive more than once.
Quote from: rich_t on February 07, 2013, 06:40:35 PM
As an FYI.... I am always more than a bit skeptical on anything reported by infowars.
Alex Jones is a bit of a lunatic.
IMO.
http://www.google.com/search?q=governemnet+agencies+buying+ammo&rlz=1C1SNNT_enUS427US427&aq=f&oq=governemnet+agencies+buying+ammo&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#hl=en&tbo=d&rlz=1C1SNNT_enUS427US427&spell=1&q=government+agencies+buying+ammo&sa=X&ei=y9sUUcWxOsWx0QGH04HICA&ved=0CC8QvwUoAA&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bvm=bv.42080656,d.dmQ&fp=d1e27f7b2012878&biw=1280&bih=647 (http://www.google.com/search?q=governemnet+agencies+buying+ammo&rlz=1C1SNNT_enUS427US427&aq=f&oq=governemnet+agencies+buying+ammo&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#hl=en&tbo=d&rlz=1C1SNNT_enUS427US427&spell=1&q=government+agencies+buying+ammo&sa=X&ei=y9sUUcWxOsWx0QGH04HICA&ved=0CC8QvwUoAA&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bvm=bv.42080656,d.dmQ&fp=d1e27f7b2012878&biw=1280&bih=647)
UPDATE
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/02/14/why-is-department-homeland-security-buying-so-many-bullets/ (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/02/14/why-is-department-homeland-security-buying-so-many-bullets/)
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Quote from: Bowhntr on February 07, 2013, 06:16:32 PM
Two words....re load. Most components can still be had with the exception of 40 caliber, 9mm, and 22 caliber rifle...for now
Hey bow went out yesterday to buy some Large Pistol Primers, I do prefer Winchester and they are getting hard to find. A few places said they will not get restocked for several months.
I wonder why at least Fox News is not asking why all the purchases of this amunition. I am not surprised the MSM is ignoring this.
I did find an article about the purchase. I am somewhat familiar with the training site in Brunswick, GA as I have a family member who is with Homeland Security and took training at the site.
http://news.yahoo.com/homeland-security-cache-bullets-190840538.html (http://news.yahoo.com/homeland-security-cache-bullets-190840538.html)
Obama's got such an all-encompassing mosaic of little tactics on all of his agendas, I'm pretty certain that using taxpayer money to buy up all the ammo on the market is just a piece of gun control. They met somewhere in the last 3 years, and this was just one of 100 ways to screw up the sales and use of guns.
Levin: US preparing for societal collapse by buying up billions of rounds of ammo
"I'm going to tell you what I think is going on," Levin said. "I don't think insurrection. Law enforcement and national security agencies — they play out multiple scenarios. They simulate multiple scenarios. I'll tell you what I think they're simulating: the collapse of our financial system, the collapse of our society and the potential for widespread violence, looting, killing in the streets, because that's what happens when an economy collapses."
"I'm not talking about a recession," Levin continued. "I'm talking about a collapse when people are desperate, when they can't food and clothing, when they have no way of going from place to place, when they can't protective themselves. There aren't enough police officers on the face of the Earth to adequately handle a situation like that."
The conservative talker and author of "Ameritopia: The Unmaking of America" based his hypothesis on his time in the Reagan Justice Department.
"And having been close enough to law enforcement — not in law enforcement, but close enough to it in my days in the Justice Department — I expect that they're running through these scenarios just in case. ... I know why the government is arming up. It's not because there's going to be an insurrection. It's because our society is unraveling."
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/02/16/levin-u-s-govt-preparing-for-civil-societys-collapse-by-buying-up-billions-of-rounds-of-ammo/#ixzz2L5kgqb5u (http://dailycaller.com/2013/02/16/levin-u-s-govt-preparing-for-civil-societys-collapse-by-buying-up-billions-of-rounds-of-ammo/#ixzz2L5kgqb5u)
Quote from: Turks on February 16, 2013, 11:29:34 AM
Levin: US preparing for societal collapse by buying up billions of rounds of ammo
"I'm going to tell you what I think is going on," Levin said. "I don't think insurrection. Law enforcement and national security agencies — they play out multiple scenarios. They simulate multiple scenarios. I'll tell you what I think they're simulating: the collapse of our financial system, the collapse of our society and the potential for widespread violence, looting, killing in the streets, because that's what happens when an economy collapses."
"I'm not talking about a recession," Levin continued. "I'm talking about a collapse when people are desperate, when they can't food and clothing, when they have no way of going from place to place, when they can't protective themselves. There aren't enough police officers on the face of the Earth to adequately handle a situation like that."
The conservative talker and author of "Ameritopia: The Unmaking of America" based his hypothesis on his time in the Reagan Justice Department.
"And having been close enough to law enforcement — not in law enforcement, but close enough to it in my days in the Justice Department — I expect that they're running through these scenarios just in case. ... I know why the government is arming up. It's not because there's going to be an insurrection. It's because our society is unraveling."
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/02/16/levin-u-s-govt-preparing-for-civil-societys-collapse-by-buying-up-billions-of-rounds-of-ammo/#ixzz2L5kgqb5u (http://dailycaller.com/2013/02/16/levin-u-s-govt-preparing-for-civil-societys-collapse-by-buying-up-billions-of-rounds-of-ammo/#ixzz2L5kgqb5u)
I have to agree, Husein has been on a path to destroy Capitalism/free mkt since he was a Senator.
We won't have time for a revolution considering collapse will most likely come much sooner.
If one were to look at how we arrived at this point, they will blame Bush for creating Homeland Security.
"It's all Bush's fault!" Will be the cry of the left, regardless of Husein policies... :glare:
Damn that Bush! :wink: Obama is so much less destructive. :confused:
Obama is paving the way. Should we become a hammer and sickle state Obama will be remembered as the [first] reformationist.
Gun dealers report shortages of ammunition
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/02/16/ammunition-shortage/1919321/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/02/16/ammunition-shortage/1919321/)
Quote from: BILLY Defiant on February 07, 2013, 03:41:32 PM
1. this is some whacko leftist idea to deprive american citizens of ammo, a gun is useless without ammo so the Govt is trying to buy it all up in an attempt at surrogate gun bans.
Michael Moore actually did this in bowling for Columbine, they went to the local Walmart and bought up tons of ammunition :laugh: Thats left wing economic theory for ya
If Gov't Can Make Bullets Disappear From Stores, Why Can't It Make Food And Medicine?
"I know some of you folks don't shoot, but to the many of you who do, I would like to pose a question.
Have you tried to purchase any ammunition lately?
All calibers are disappearing from store shelves, but .22 long rifles, in bulk, can't be found at all anywhere, even the most dependable internet super dealers are out of stock and are making no promises about when they'll be available again, and it's my opinion that soon the same thing will be true about the other calibers.
If the government can make bullets disappear from store shelves, why couldn't it make food disappear, or fuel or medicine, or anything else for that matter?
The point being that big government can do just about anything they want to and there's little the minority of us who fear it can do about it as long as the majority who don't fear it keeps tripping down the primrose path with their heads in the clouds and their hands out.
There is a little known piece of legislation that passed Congress a while back called The Food Safety Modernization Act and the provisions are shadowy at best, having to do with agriculture and the production of food in America.
I checked into it when I found out about it only to find the bill had just cleared the Senate and was on President Obama's desk. What struck me as strange was the fact that our two Tennessee Senators were split on the vote; Bob Corker voted against it and Lamar Alexander voted for it.
I was assured by Senator Alexander's office that "Senator Alexander would never do anything to hurt the farmers." Well, does that mean that Senator Corker would do something to hurt the farmers by voting against it? Which means that one of the Senators voted against the farmers of Tennessee. Which one?
The provisions of the bill are said to protect the food supply, but what does that mean when it's taken out of government speak and translated into plain English?
Personally, I believe the government has taken upon itself the power to interrupt agriculture at any time it chooses under the guise of keeping tainted or otherwise unsafe food out of the market - up to, and including, the planting and harvesting of private home gardens.
The flow of medicine could easily be interrupted by claiming it contained impurities and harmful substances.
We've already seen how fuel can be rationed - just slow down the availability and delivery.
Big government can bring this nation to its knees in a matter of days. And, with a passive Senate and an ever more acquiescent Supreme Court, the power to do so is falling into the hands of one man."
http://cnsnews.com/blog/charlie-daniels/if-govt-can-make-bullets-disappear-stores-why-cant-it-make-food-and-medicine (http://cnsnews.com/blog/charlie-daniels/if-govt-can-make-bullets-disappear-stores-why-cant-it-make-food-and-medicine)