Debate thread

[taxed]

"low intellect" mmk well it was Cruz himself that said he wasn't good at speaking Spanish, but that's besides the point.

Rubio lied and said Cruz can't speak Spanish.  Cruz proved him wrong in front of millions.  Sorry, that's a fact.

The point here is that Rubio was mistranslated.

No he wasn't.  He has been consistently for amnesty in English and Spanish. 

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/04/18/rubio-affirms-hell-end-obamas-executive-amnesty-univision-interview-mistranslated/

Nobody is disputing he would end Hussein's amnesty.  That isn't what the Gang of Eight was about.  Your attempt to obfuscate the two might work at the other place, but not here.  We understand the difference between the Gang of Eight and Hussein's exec amnesty.  Nice try.

We disagree on what constitutes amnesty.

Forgiving law breakers and giving them a path to citizenship.  Do you disagree?

[taxed]

That may be so, but she started this discussion by defending Rubio of the charge made by Cruz in the debate. Rather weakly, I might add. That was a more specific charge than "amnesty."

Yes, but she just continues to try and obfuscate and lie.  Rubio supports amnesty.  Cruz doesn't.  She tries to say the opposite.  The reality is she didn't follow the issue, and doesn't understand it, so she let's pro-Rubio people give her some lies to parrot and she runs with it.

[Fishman]

Newbie to the forum folks...please be gentle. I switched from Trump to Cruz several weeks ago as the silly comments from him just wore me down and I couldn't support him any longer. Some of his comments in this last debate just confirmed my withdrawing support for him especially the comments about Bush lying about WMD in Iraq. Maybe Donald should go interview the Kurds about that topic.

[taxed]

Newbie to the forum folks...please be gentle. I switched from Trump to Cruz several weeks ago as the silly comments from him just wore me down and I couldn't support him any longer. Some of his comments in this last debate just confirmed my withdrawing support for him especially the comments about Bush lying about WMD in Iraq. Maybe Donald should go interview the Kurds about that topic.

Welcome!

[Josie]

Newbie to the forum folks...please be gentle. I switched from Trump to Cruz several weeks ago as the silly comments from him just wore me down and I couldn't support him any longer. Some of his comments in this last debate just confirmed my withdrawing support for him especially the comments about Bush lying about WMD in Iraq. Maybe Donald should go interview the Kurds about that topic.

^5 :)

[Josie]

Rubio lied and said Cruz can't speak Spanish.  Cruz proved him wrong in front of millions.  Sorry, that's a fact.
No he wasn't.  He has been consistently for amnesty in English and Spanish. 
Nobody is disputing he would end Hussein's amnesty.  That isn't what the Gang of Eight was about.  Your attempt to obfuscate the two might work at the other place, but not here.  We understand the difference between the Gang of Eight and Hussein's exec amnesty.  Nice try.

Forgiving law breakers and giving them a path to citizenship.  Do you disagree?

Cruz himself has said he doesn't  speak Spanish well, hence Rubio calling him on it... clearly he was expecting it and rehearsed a couple of lines, but he's been pretty clear with the media that he isn't fluent in Spanish.


This is what happened plain and simple.

https://medium.com/@rbpundit/cruz-s-lies-are-becoming-pathological-4d46667fc796#.sn3nnf19p

[carlb]

Newbie to the forum folks...please be gentle. I switched from Trump to Cruz several weeks ago as the silly comments from him just wore me down and I couldn't support him any longer. Some of his comments in this last debate just confirmed my withdrawing support for him especially the comments about Bush lying about WMD in Iraq. Maybe Donald should go interview the Kurds about that topic.

Yeah, Donald still sounds like a Democrat. I hope with the "death" of Scalia, people will take this election a little more seriously.

[kit saginaw]

Cruz is a superb debater, but he's still learning... 

He should've went-with:  " Rubio went on Univision and said blah blah blah... "

Instead, he reached-for:  " Rubio went on Univision and said in-Spanish; blah blah blah... "

I immediately forgave it in-the-moment.  It was just an innocent editing error (your mind presenting data & tactics to you while you're speaking unscripted).

Critics of Republicans can't use language & dialect mistakes as ammo because they voted-in an idiot that thinks ' Austrian ' is a language... and that ' Cinco de quattro ' means:  ' 5th of May '.  Not to mention his mysteriously appearing ghetto-drawl and HRC's southern-accent.

Yes, Cruz led Rubio into the trap of reanimating Mark Halperin's failed gotcha against Cruz last year, in an interview that Think Progress awarded The Most Racist Interview Of 2015.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLIKppQhigU

Halperin was forced to apologize or be kicked-off Bloomberg.

Btw, Jeb speaks Spanish off-and-on in pure pander-bear mode.

[Solar]

This is a link to the author of the article I was referring to.

https://twitter.com/rumpfshaker/status/693160058260103168

Cruz counting on confusing between DAPA and DACA

Irrelevant. Read what was said by Rubio and why he was called on it, and the abbreviations have absolutely nothing to do with Rubio's lie, that's just pure obfuscation, so stop trying to move the goal pstst, that shit don't fly here.
Lets stick to one game that has goal posts and leave the bases for another discussion.
Now address what I posted.