Quote from: Devushka on January 14, 2017, 12:11:45 PM
I prefer to never tell anyone what to do, just to share my views. Trust me, I tried explaining to some very liberal Canadian and American friends how my family and the rest of my country suffered during communism but they don't understand and don't want to know. People can't relate unless they experience something personally, this is the reason why history always repeats.

Not neccessarily true.  I learned the lesson of history, what an utter failure Marxism and all its forms is, by looking at what happened to the Sovet Union and the Iron Curtain countries.

Mark Twain said history doesn't often repeat but it does rhyme.

If it seems to be rhyming to you now, that's probably because we lost the commitment to preventing totalitarrianism that was there when I was a kid. I got 1984, Brave New World, what life was like in Nazi Germany. Things that sadly are no longer taught.

Quote from: Solar on January 14, 2017, 12:26:00 PM
Post it in the Pit, that's a members only section. Guests can't view it.

haha looks like I'd be the only one (shy). I'm glad that there are "private" folders at least :)

Quote from: Ghoulardi on January 14, 2017, 12:32:45 PM
Not neccessarily true.  I learned the lesson of history, what an utter failure Marxism and all its forms is, by looking at what happened to the Sovet Union and the Iron Curtain countries.

Mark Twain said history doesn't often repeat but it does rhyme.

If it seems to be rhyming to you now, that's probably because we lost the commitment to preventing totalitarrianism that was there when I was a kid. I got 1984, Brave New World, what life was like in Nazi Germany. Things that sadly are no longer taught.

Funny, even commies/libs are always in search of new words for communism, like progressive etc.
They try so hard to distance themselves from their roots, which is one reason they are easily tricked into returning to their roots.
Hell, even Kim Il sung, the original dictator of the current regime we call communist North Korea, he refused to call it communism, instead, renamed it Juche. (spelling?)

Quote from: Solar on January 14, 2017, 12:46:42 PM
Funny, even commies/libs are always in search of new words for communism, like progressive etc.
They try so hard to distance themselves from their roots, which is one reason they are easily tricked into returning to their roots.
Hell, even Kim Il sung, the original dictator of the current regime we call communist North Korea, he refused to call it communism, instead, renamed it Juche. (spelling?)

I imagine that's got a lot to do with people realizing its a scam.

That's why they went from progressives to liberals to progressives. When people get a whiff of what they really mean, they have to change the term because once they understand all it encompasses nobody wants it.

Quote from: Ghoulardi on January 14, 2017, 12:54:10 PM
I imagine that's got a lot to do with people realizing its a scam.

That's why they went from progressives to liberals to progressives. When people get a whiff of what they really mean, they have to change the term because once they understand all it encompasses nobody wants it.

Yep, even Hitler disguised his movement as a Nationalist Socialist party movement, but they all wind up the same, oppressive to the end.

Wow I just became a "full member" here, I can't believe my post count is already past 100, crazy. It's been fun!

Drunk Russian girls posting everybody.... sound the alarms!!!!

Quote from: taxed on January 14, 2017, 01:24:37 PM
Drunk Russian girls posting everybody.... sound the alarms!!!!

haha too funny! 
I'm not too intoxicated yet

Quote from: Devushka on January 14, 2017, 09:33:45 AM
Communists took away our land in 1905 and killed almost every single person in our village, it never improved after this. You may assume that every Russian must of'course be a communist but you are wrong and judging by your media, US has a lot more communists than all the former Soviet republics combined.

Very well put, welcome to the forum by the way.  Hope you don;t mind a long winded post but here goes.

As you can see by my Sig line FIGHTING COMMUNSIM SINCE 1969, that sums up my attitude. I began hating communism or rather communists back in the early 60's when as a child I sat with my family watching Nikita Kruschev on our tiny TV threatening us with his infamous "WE WILL BURY YOU SPEECH, My Mother and Sister frightened, my Father angry, I decided right then and there I would be a soldier and protect my country against these horrible people called Russians who seemed so determined to destroy us.

I got my chance at soldiering and saw up close and personal the savagery of the viet cong communists who were mostly financed by THE SOVIET UNION. While my hatred of communism grew, I began to realize that the greatest threat was not the USSR or the Viet Cong but right in our own country with the Students for a democratic society that grew into terrorist groups like the Weathermen, headed by Bills Ayers of Obamao fame.

These were the people who would turn our country into the USSR or worse, Cambodia and slaughter anyone who didn't agree with them. As they theselves later stated. They couldn't do it with force of arms so they began to do it by taking over our political system.

As I grew older I also began to realize that the Russian people were not my enemy, but the ideals of communism so contrary to our American ideals of freedom and independence, were. It helped that many of the Russian people I encountered during my life helped change my attitude and I admit I have a respect and even admiration for them/you

I can tell you that a lot of Americans my age, many of whom have served in the Military have this same attitude.
But recent years under Obamao have taught us who the real enemy is right here in our own country. You saw the result of that realization on Nov 8th 2016.

Now you may understand where many Americans are coming from. While I do not wish to revive the cold war and I do not wish to be an enemy of Russia, I realize how difficult that might be with someone like Mr Putin at the helm of your country. He is a staunch communist and he wishes to reconstitute the former Soviet Union.


But at the end of the day I think it is better that we establish diplomatic relations and TRADE with Russia rather than point missile's at them. The Marxist idiots that were in power over the last eight years were incapable of this concept.

Quote from: Devushka on January 14, 2017, 12:32:52 PM
haha looks like I'd be the only one (shy). I'm glad that there are "private" folders at least :)

You have a PM young lady.

Quote from: Billy's bayonet on January 14, 2017, 01:35:53 PM


Very well put, welcome to the forum by the way.  Hope you don;t mind a long winded post but here goes.

As you can see by my Sig line FIGHTING COMMUNSIM SINCE 1969, that sums up my attitude. I began hating communism or rather communists back in the early 60's when as a child I sat with my family watching Nikita Kruschev on our tiny TV threatening us with his infamous "WE WILL BURY YOU SPEECH, My Mother and Sister frightened, my Father angry, I decided right then and there I would be a soldier and protect my country against these horrible people called Russians who seemed so determined to destroy us.

I got my chance at soldiering and saw up close and personal the savagery of the viet cong communists who were mostly financed by THE SOVIET UNION. While my hatred of communism grew, I began to realize that the greatest threat was not the USSR or the Viet Cong but right in our own country with the Students for a democratic society that grew into terrorist groups like the Weathermen, headed by Bills Ayers of Obamao fame.

These were the people who would turn our country into the USSR or worse, Cambodia and slaughter anyone who didn't agree with them. As they theselves later stated. They couldn't do it with force of arms so they began to do it by taking over our political system.

As I grew older I also began to realize that the Russian people were not my enemy, but the ideals of communism so contrary to our American ideals of freedom and independence, were. It helped that many of the Russian people I encountered during my life helped change my attitude and I admit I have a respect and even admiration for them/you

I can tell you that a lot of Americans my age, many of whom have served in the Military have this same attitude.
But recent years under Obamao have taught us who the real enemy is right here in our own country. You saw the result of that realization on Nov 8th 2016.

Now you may understand where many Americans are coming from. While I do not wish to revive the cold war and I do not wish to be an enemy of Russia, I realize how difficult that might be with someone like Mr Putin at the helm of your country. He is a staunch communist and he wishes to reconstitute the former Soviet Union.


But at the end of the day I think it is better that we establish diplomatic relations and TRADE with Russia rather than point missile's at them. The Marxist idiots that were in power over the last eight years were incapable of this concept.

Thank you for taking your time to share this.
One thing I would like to point out that despite what your media writes, Putin is not a communist and he does not plan on trying to create anither Soviet Union, you may argue with me on this topic but I know that communism has nothing to do here, Putin knows that communism is not a viable reality. He is of'course not my leader of choice because I want true democratic elections but he is what we have FOR NOW.
Putin wants free market economy without foreign sanctions, he wants Russia to be financially (fiscally is the correct word I think) stable and prosperous. Putin regrets the way/manner Soviet Union fell but no, he is not planning on creating another one.

Quote from: Devushka on January 14, 2017, 01:50:55 PM
Thank you for taking your time to share this.
One thing I would like to point out that despite what your media writes, Putin is not a communist and he does not plan on trying to create anither Soviet Union, you may argue with me on this topic but I know that communism has nothing to do here, Putin knows that communism is not a viable reality. He is of'course not my leader of choice because I want true democratic elections but he is what we have FOR NOW.
Putin wants free market economy without foreign sanctions, he wants Russia to be financially (fiscally is the correct word I think) stable and prosperous. Putin regrets the way/manner Soviet Union fell but no, he is not planning on creating another one.

Our Founders recognized the dangers of Democracy, which is why we have a Republican form of govt, whereby the power is divided and diminished by three separate branches to keep watch over one another.
You never want the power to be with the majority and power to change law at a whim.

Quote from: Solar on January 14, 2017, 03:44:15 PM
Our Founders recognized the dangers of Democracy, which is why we have a Republican form of govt, whereby the power is divided and diminished by three separate branches to keep watch over one another.
You never want the power to be with the majority and power to change law at a whim.

I have been learning this lately and find it to be very clever.

Quote from: Devushka on January 14, 2017, 01:50:55 PM
Thank you for taking your time to share this.
One thing I would like to point out that despite what your media writes, Putin is not a communist and he does not plan on trying to create anither Soviet Union, you may argue with me on this topic but I know that communism has nothing to do here, Putin knows that communism is not a viable reality. He is of'course not my leader of choice because I want true democratic elections but he is what we have FOR NOW.
Putin wants free market economy without foreign sanctions, he wants Russia to be financially (fiscally is the correct word I think) stable and prosperous. Putin regrets the way/manner Soviet Union fell but no, he is not planning on creating another one.

Well we have to agree to disagree on Mr Putin. In some ways many of us have respect for him. It is like watching a tiger or a grizzly bear in the wild, the strength and power is impressive and captivating, but you better not piss it off 

I think you are right about a financially stable Russia, and that should be the goal here. A unstable Russia would mean chaos for Europe and Potential danger to the rest of the world, prolifiration of weapons and the potential for the Islamic states to obtain more nukes. I think that may be the best arguement for removing the sanctions which are doing nothing but injuring your economy.

Quote from: Devushka on January 14, 2017, 04:29:16 PM
I have been learning this lately and find it to be very clever.

Yeah, after millennia in observance of dictatorial rule by monarchism and the church, they knew the only govt that could work, was one where it's powers are chained like the beast it is.
It's why we have a bill of Rights, with powers granted by God to the people, that keeps our govt in check.
It may not be perfect by any means, but to date, it's the best system ever created.

The perfect system would be absent of govt altogether, but we know how that would go.