Quote from: wally on September 23, 2016, 11:36:22 AM
I have no love for Donald Trump, but I will be voting for the Son of a Bitch!  Here's why...

I believe that the future of our Republic is at stake. If (when) Hillary Clinton is elected, the Marxist-Allynsky plan will come to fruition!  There will be little distinction between Vladimir Putin's corrupt Oligarchy and ours! Conservatism will be outlawed, along with guns and our individual freedoms.  These Oligarchs will make the greater good of the Collective supreme! 

Republicans have all three branches of government within our grasp and yet angry Conservatives may help to destroy our nation by refusing the only choice we have to stop Hillary and the Leftist Cabal from achieving their victory! This withered old refugee from a marxist commune is only a figure head for the ship of state that the Marxists have created.  Our nation can not withstand one more term of the sort of CHANGE these people BELIEVE in!

That is one perspective.  There is also the very real possibility that Trump's objective was to stop the conservative movement.  Plain and simple.  He is a narcissistic demagogue and he could very well lead all his sheep to slaughter.  We are screwed either way.

Quote from: Ms.Independence on September 23, 2016, 07:03:59 PM
That is one perspective.  There is also the very real possibility that Trump's objective was to stop the conservative movement.  Plain and simple.  He is a narcissistic demagogue and he could very well lead all his sheep to slaughter.  We are screwed either way.

We were screwed when Trump won the primary!  (I serve a a local Republican Committee person and I spoke out harshly against Trump just prior to the election and (as a result) our committee made no endorsement.  (No doubt I pissed some people off and made no friends..but I did what I felt was right)

I posted the "Five Stages of Grief" post because I realized that I was so distressed about this that I have been grief stricken about this election!  It had been the one time since Ronald Reagan that we were positioned to have one of our own become POTUS! Trump robbed this from us, by telling the people what they wanted to hear and making the process become a farcical reality tv show.

I stopped coming to this forum and withdrew from the whole thing. I watched very little news and went through political withdrawal.  Coming up on this very critical election, I realized that I can not escape from my civic responsibilities.  If I truly love this county then as difficult as it is, I must do all I can to save it from being destroyed by the Obama/Clinton/Alynsky style Marxists who have taken control of our government, our media and our institutions.  I had to get back into the game and begin working with the only political tools we have left.  This includes Donald Trump. God Help us!

Quote from: wally on September 23, 2016, 11:36:22 AM
I have no love for Donald Trump, but I will be voting for the Son of a Bitch!  Here's why...

I believe that the future of our Republic is at stake. If (when) Hillary Clinton is elected, the Marxist-Allynsky plan will come to fruition!  There will be little distinction between Vladimir Putin's corrupt Oligarchy and ours! Conservatism will be outlawed, along with guns and our individual freedoms.  These Oligarchs will make the greater good of the Collective supreme! 

Republicans have all three branches of government within our grasp and yet angry Conservatives may help to destroy our nation by refusing the only choice we have to stop Hillary and the Leftist Cabal from achieving their victory! This withered old refugee from a marxist commune is only a figure head for the ship of state that the Marxists have created.  Our nation can not withstand one more term of the sort of CHANGE these people BELIEVE in!

Well said.

Quote from: Ms.Independence on September 23, 2016, 07:03:59 PM
That is one perspective.  There is also the very real possibility that Trump's objective was to stop the conservative movement.  Plain and simple.  He is a narcissistic demagogue and he could very well lead all his sheep to slaughter.  We are screwed either way.

IMO - that's what the Dems want, the GOPe wants, and messy as it'll get, they don't care! 
The GOPe is sick of us, and hope a Liberal like Trump can "backfill" the party with moderates - send us packing.

The WANT us to think we're screwed, but we've been electing more and more Conservatives - they're getting desperate and worried about losing control...

WE are gaining ground in the Senate and House.

Quote from: Hoofer on September 25, 2016, 09:39:54 AM
IMO - that's what the Dems want, the GOPe wants, and messy as it'll get, they don't care! 
The GOPe is sick of us, and hope a Liberal like Trump can "backfill" the party with moderates - send us packing.

The WANT us to think we're screwed, but we've been electing more and more Conservatives - they're getting desperate and worried about losing control...

WE are gaining ground in the Senate and House.

The real work is being done at the local and state levels. We have made progress in the House, but the Senate is still full of RINO's.

Ted Cruz has offered to help Donald Trump in his preparation for the next two debates.  Cruz demonstrated a great control of his emotions as Trump baited him with "Lying Ted" and attacks on his wife, as well as distortions of his record. Trump to do well to take a page out of Ted Cruz's book and stay on message and stay on attack and not get rattled in the next debates by assault an his character, mischaracterizations of his past and insults!  Trump has to demonstrate that he can take it just as well as he has proven that he can dish it out!

Quote from: wally on September 23, 2016, 11:36:22 AM
I have no love for Donald Trump, but I will be voting for the Son of a Bitch!  Here's why...

When did you turn liberal?  Wait..... has anyone told you yet??

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I believe that the future of our Republic is at stake.

No it isn't.  That train has left the station.  When you, Wally, are reduced to actually attempting to make the case for Donald Trump being the hail Mary that can save our Republic, it simply proves some money well spent on internet bots and 12mm Democrat crossover votes is all you need to get the easily influenced to vote your way.  Sorry, your proven delusion is not my reality.  But, feel free to strengthen the current GOP structure with your vote by letting them know that no matter who they run, you will be on board until the end.

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If (when) Hillary Clinton is elected, the Marxist-Allynsky plan will come to fruition!  There will be little distinction between Vladimir Putin's corrupt Oligarchy and ours! Conservatism will be outlawed, along with guns and our individual freedoms.  These Oligarchs will make the greater good of the Collective supreme!

Yeah, Donald's the answer.  Donald can save us.

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Republicans have all three branches of government within our grasp and yet angry Conservatives may help to destroy our nation by refusing the only choice we have to stop Hillary and the Leftist Cabal from achieving their victory!

Incorrect.  You are.  You were malleable enough to be actually be tricked into thinking Trump had support by millions of crossover voters backing fake internet support.  We told you Hillary would trounce him.  You didn't listen.  Now it's our fault?  Nice try, Wally, but I already get this from the Trump emails trying to raise money for his campaign that you were gullible enough to think he could finance because he said so.  We told you all this, and you didn't listen.  He's YOUR candidate, not mine.  Hillary is clinging onto dear life, with the FBI on her ass, passing out under protection of the media that has a stockpile of dirt on Trump that hasn't been needed yet, and is STILL beating Donald.  Again, your candidate has a history of losing and lying, so please don't blame us normal people.

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This withered old refugee from a marxist commune is only a figure head for the ship of state that the Marxists have created.  Our nation can not withstand one more term of the sort of CHANGE these people BELIEVE in!

Gosh, I've never heard that before.

Been crunching the numbers over the past several months, and I'm beginning to think this election just might be a record breaker, for worst turnout ever.
One thing for certain, neither candidate will carry a mandate and can't claim they are doing the work of the will of the people.

Quote from: Solar on September 30, 2016, 08:30:27 AM
Been crunching the numbers over the past several months, and I'm beginning to think this election just might be a record breaker, for worst turnout ever.
One thing for certain, neither candidate will carry a mandate and can't claim they are doing the work of the will of the people.

Heard it in the lobby today, MSNBC was reporting Johnson support is gaining, at 12% in some states.   They readily admit it's Clinton support eroding.

Quote from: Hoofer on September 30, 2016, 02:07:43 PM
Heard it in the lobby today, MSNBC was reporting Johnson support is gaining, at 12% in some states.   They readily admit it's Clinton support eroding.

More proof of what I've been saying about the Libertarian movement. For the longest time the movement was a draw to Conservatives, until 'the GOP pushed Johnson onto the movement' (no proof) but it doesn't take a genius to see what happened, and now the libs abandoned the Dims for the LIBertarians because of the damage Johnson did under the guidance of the Establishment.

The Libertarian party was once the biggest threat to the GOP till Johnson watered it down to what it is today, all planned, nothing more than a lib flytrap.

Quote from: Solar on September 30, 2016, 02:26:46 PM
More proof of what I've been saying about the Libertarian movement. For the longest time the movement was a draw to Conservatives, until 'the GOP pushed Johnson onto the movement' (no proof) but it doesn't take a genius to see what happened, and now the libs abandoned the Dims for the LIBertarians because of the damage Johnson did under the guidance of the Establishment.

The Libertarian party was once the biggest threat to the GOP till Johnson watered it down to what it is today, all planned, nothing more than a lib flytrap.

A lot of people are not for the party there in right now or even who they say they are.   They remind me of all the fruits out there.  What bathroom do I use today.   

Just checked to see how google is treating us and the "Cruz Write In Campaign" thread, and low and behold it's no longer on their first page, despite having been the first site to call for it, but go to Duckduckgogo search and we're listed in first place.

Doesn't take a genius to see what's going on here.

Quote from: Solar on October 11, 2016, 12:53:48 PM
Just checked to see how google is treating us and the "Cruz Write In Campaign" thread, and low and behold it's no longer on their first page, despite having been the first site to call for it, but go to Duckduckgogo search and we're listed in first place.

Doesn't take a genius to see what's going on here.

Google is the same the MSM.  Only they think no one know what there doing.   The count on everyone being a LIV.

Quote from: walkstall on October 11, 2016, 01:33:21 PM

Google is the same the MSM.  Only they think no one know what there doing.   The count on everyone being a LIV.

I only use DuckDuckGo.