Tghen again, so did Ksux.

candidate   votes   %   pledged delegates
Cruz   118,904   
69.2%
40

kasich   29,015   
16.9%
0

trump   23,984   
14.0%
0

It appears now that in order for Cruz to have any chance of acquiring 1237 delegate, he must take New York and California. That is a monumental task.

Well, this sure didn't get any media coverage, did it!

Cruz beats Trump by 55% and but loses to Trump in Arizona by "OH my GOD!!!  double digits!!!  Time for Cruz to drop out!!!"

For a guy who can't get on-camera and practically begs for an interview - please tell me doubters, "How is Ted Cruz doing so well?"  How did Trump get trounced by such a HUGE margin in a state recognized as "conservative"?  I thought Trump had corralled the conservative vote...

Listening to the media, I thought Donald Trump was suppose to have this thing wrapped up after South Carolina, then when that didn't work after super-Tuesday, and that just had to be the end of Ted Cruz, it was easy-street, a walk-in-the-park for Donald Trump.  So was that 55% spread all early voters?

I agree with Hoofer.. Watching Fox tonight Lutz stated that there is absolutely no way for Cruz to win enough delegates to secure the nomination and if this goes to a Contested Convention there will be violence.. I will say, I am not surprised any longer to see the pro Trump mantra on Fox but this was nearly hilarious especially after they had just reported that Cruz is going up in the polls and only trails trump by a mere 3 points nationwide, well within the margin of error, mind you, Trumps numbers aren't moving.. This race is by no means over but the media wants trump, that much is clear.. Well I think Megan Kelly isn't in the tank 

Also, watching the returns come in last night all the pundits were saying that Trump HAD to break that 50% mark, that if he couldn't break it with Arizona his campaign was in trouble, by the end of the night (or at least by the time I gave up and went to bed), Trump was a 46% and they were saying he broke that barrier.. Not a word about Cruz of course that hit a home run at 69%

Quote from: AmericanMom on March 23, 2016, 08:05:01 PM
I agree with Hoofer.. Watching Fox tonight Lutz stated that there is absolutely no way for Cruz to win enough delegates to secure the nomination and if this goes to a Contested Convention there will be violence.. I will say, I am not surprised any longer to see the pro Trump mantra on Fox but this was nearly hilarious especially after they had just reported that Cruz is going up in the polls and only trails trump by a mere 3 points nationwide, well within the margin of error, mind you, Trumps numbers aren't moving.. This race is by no means over but the media wants trump, that much is clear.. Well I think Megan Kelly isn't in the tank 

Also, watching the returns come in last night all the pundits were saying that Trump HAD to break that 50% mark, that if he couldn't break it with Arizona his campaign was in trouble, by the end of the night (or at least by the time I gave up and went to bed), Trump was a 46% and they were saying he broke that barrier.. Not a word about Cruz of course that hit a home run at 69%

Well...you know...it's the elephant on the tv...Utah is just a bunch of brainwashed mormons and don't know any better...

Quote from: AmericanMom on March 23, 2016, 08:05:01 PM
I agree with Hoofer.. Watching Fox tonight Lutz stated that there is absolutely no way for Cruz to win enough delegates to secure the nomination and if this goes to a Contested Convention there will be violence.. I will say, I am not surprised any longer to see the pro Trump mantra on Fox but this was nearly hilarious especially after they had just reported that Cruz is going up in the polls and only trails trump by a mere 3 points nationwide, well within the margin of error, mind you, Trumps numbers aren't moving.. This race is by no means over but the media wants trump, that much is clear.. Well I think Megan Kelly isn't in the tank 

Also, watching the returns come in last night all the pundits were saying that Trump HAD to break that 50% mark, that if he couldn't break it with Arizona his campaign was in trouble, by the end of the night (or at least by the time I gave up and went to bed), Trump was a 46% and they were saying he broke that barrier.. Not a word about Cruz of course that hit a home run at 69%

If Donald Trump has peaked.... and Ted Cruz is steadily rising ... guess who's gonna get really ugly.
I get the impression the MSM is trying to drive CLOSURE to the primary, and start setting up a Clinton / Trump race.

Quote from: Hoofer on March 23, 2016, 08:56:24 PM
If Donald Trump has peaked.... and Ted Cruz is steadily rising ... guess who's gonna get really ugly.
I get the impression the MSM is trying to drive CLOSURE to the primary, and start setting up a Clinton / Trump race.

Ohhhh you know it they are setting the dinner table all up pretty for a Trump/Clinton ratings fiesta! Gag me with a spoon, a fork, a knife, and anything else there's room for...

Quote from: Hoofer on March 23, 2016, 08:56:24 PM
If Donald Trump has peaked.... and Ted Cruz is steadily rising ... guess who's gonna get really ugly.
I get the impression the MSM is trying to drive CLOSURE to the primary, and start setting up a Clinton / Trump race.

Trump is predictable, he threatened Cruz's Wife Heidi today.. My first thought was uh-oh.. Donalds mad about something lol

Quote from: AmericanMom on March 23, 2016, 09:21:40 PM
Trump is predictable, he threatened Cruz's Wife Heidi today.. My first thought was uh-oh.. Donalds mad about something lol

Mr. Trump didn't threaten Cruz's wife today. Saying you will spill the beans about someone isn't threatening them.

You can dislike a candidate such as Trump without resorting to bald faced lying about what they say or do like the liberals over <<<< on that side of the aisle do.

Quote from: daidalos on March 24, 2016, 06:26:52 AM
Mr. Trump didn't threaten Cruz's wife today. Saying you will spill the beans about someone isn't threatening them.

You can dislike a candidate such as Trump without resorting to bald faced lying about what they say or do like the liberals over <<<< on that side of the aisle do.

Your right, how 'bout the Liberal and his sycophants on THIS SIDE OF THE AISLE.... claiming Cruz (NOT a SuperPac supporting him who he cannot even tell not to do things like this) LITERALLY HIMSELF posted the trashy pictures his wife had taken of her....as if he was outside her window with a camera.

...Then he proceeds to threaten to (in your words) "spill the beans" about "something"...

He is as bad as the Anonymous site with his veiled threats.

WAKE THE F&%K up America! or at least the ones who used to want a return to conservative constitutional govt who have thrown all in with lets face it, a Complete JACKASS.

That's not my words, that's what Trump actually said in the tweet.

It was Mr. Trump who literally said he'd "spill the beans". Not yours truly here, I simply pointed out the accurate quote.

See sauce you still don't get it.

Claiming Heidi Cruz was threatened, is not true. Telling the truth about something someone has or hasn't done.

Isn't a threat. Going around, parroting the claim that it is. Right along with the rest of the establishment morons. Is further propagating a lie, that some obviously think it's ok to repeat, so long as it benefits Cruz.

Sorry to break it to ya's.

But Conservatives do not intentionally lie, or attempt to mislead other voters.

Simply because it benefits our own arguments or the candidate we like.

We do not attribute to, person A, something to person B, simply because we don't like this or that candidate or it suits our own itching ears to do so.

And we don't call it "throwing in" with a candidate when someone tells us the truth about what the candidate said or did either.

If you want to lie, if you want to be intentionally intellectually disingenuous, then I would posit there is no place for you in the Conservative tent.

You will be much happier over in the DNC and liberals tent. Where they not only will let you get away with that behavior.

But actively encourage it. Because here in the Conservative tent, we or well most of us will and have zero problem calling you out for it.

Not only that, but we, who are truly conservatives, actively discourage that kind of behavior also.

We've had enough of being lied to by liberal politicians.

We don't need or want our own candidates or their supporters doing it too.

Now that's the end of today's lecture on conservative ethics and morality.

Quote from: daidalos on March 24, 2016, 07:22:04 AM
Now that's the end of today's lecture on conservative ethics and morality.

Did you get your degree from Trump University or do you just lecture there? 

My brother Sauce, here was a game commonly played (often by the more street-smart, less ethical students) called, "Let's-you-and-him-fight!" This whole thing was contrived by a salivating, savagely miscreant mass media in order to generate news website hits and T.V. viewers - nothing more or less than that. This was a classic case of, "Schoolyard 101," as the owner of the Right Minds forum (the other place I post) so appropriately pointed out over there, to an outraged poster.

So yes, there is an element of truth to the entire thing - maybe Cruz should be held to some extent responsible even for things that he didn't order, condone or approve, (though not lying)  and Trump for promulgating some misconceptions of his own, but any of those issues pale in comparison to the other far-more substantive ones which occurred recently regarding the heinous, monstrous actions/statements of the Eightball Obama, Hill-O-lies Clinton, Colonel Sanders and the Cacogenic Crusade of the 'Crats.

Don't be manipulated into mistaking friends for enemies by a mass media which is expert in only one thing - instigating strife and discord.

I would gladly vote for either Cruz (my preference) or Trump (flaws notwithstanding) before any other candidate, least of all any of the 'Crat candidates.

Quote from: daidalos on March 24, 2016, 07:22:04 AM
That's not my words, that's what Trump actually said in the tweet.

It was Mr. Trump who literally said he'd "spill the beans". Not yours truly here, I simply pointed out the accurate quote.

See sauce you still don't get it.

Claiming Heidi Cruz was threatened, is not true. Telling the truth about something someone has or hasn't done.

Isn't a threat. Going around, parroting the claim that it is. Right along with the rest of the establishment morons. Is further propagating a lie, that some obviously think it's ok to repeat, so long as it benefits Cruz.

Sorry to break it to ya's.

But Conservatives do not intentionally lie, or attempt to mislead other voters.

Simply because it benefits our own arguments or the candidate we like.

We do not attribute to, person A, something to person B, simply because we don't like this or that candidate or it suits our own itching ears to do so.

And we don't call it "throwing in" with a candidate when someone tells us the truth about what the candidate said or did either.

If you want to lie, if you want to be intentionally intellectually disingenuous, then I would posit there is no place for you in the Conservative tent.

You will be much happier over in the DNC and liberals tent. Where they not only will let you get away with that behavior.

But actively encourage it. Because here in the Conservative tent, we or well most of us will and have zero problem calling you out for it.

Not only that, but we, who are truly conservatives, actively discourage that kind of behavior also.

We've had enough of being lied to by liberal politicians.

We don't need or want our own candidates or their supporters doing it too.

Now that's the end of today's lecture on conservative ethics and morality.

Hollow or otherwise, a threat was alluded to, so therefore the threat of a threat was made.
You can play the game all you want, but the fact is, Trump is scum for pulling this shit.
Where I grew up, this kind of behavior got your ass kicked.

yeah, Cruz won Utah but difference in delegates for Trumps win in Arizona means Donald picks up 2 more delegates than Cruz