Quote from: DTRAIN Designs on April 24, 2016, 07:47:16 AM
A third party run would ensure a Clinton Victory.  Whether the Republican candidate is ideal or not, republicans need to unite to defeat Hillary.  Any of the starting 17 republican candidates is better than another Obama/Clinton term.

Quite honestly Hillary is only a threat as long as the lib Trump is on the ticket, but he'll be gone soon enough.
Cruz will be the next POTUS.
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Quote from: DTRAIN Designs on April 24, 2016, 07:47:16 AM
A third party run would ensure a Clinton Victory.  Whether the Republican candidate is ideal or not, republicans need to unite to defeat Hillary.  Any of the starting 17 republican candidates is better than another Obama/Clinton term.

How is Trump better than Hillary again?

Quote from: DTRAIN Designs on April 24, 2016, 07:47:16 AM
A third party run would ensure a Clinton Victory.  Whether the Republican candidate is ideal or not, republicans need to unite to defeat Hillary.  Any of the starting 17 republican candidates is better than another Obama/Clinton term.

I'm beginning to wonder if that's true.  It's the last thing the GOPe wants, but the Republican Party is getting gutted by Trump and refilled with Liberals & Democrats.  Trump's voting bloc already LOOKS like a third party, a middle-left, left-of-enter party, doesn't it?

In short, I think Rush is correct, Hillary is beatable.  If she was a strong candidate, Bernie would have been long-gone by the end-of-the-year, and it almost looks like he's gaining in popularity!?

If there ever is going to be a viable 3rd party, this might be the best time to do it.

Quote from: Hoofer on April 25, 2016, 10:31:40 AM
I'm beginning to wonder if that's true. It's the last thing the GOPe wants, but the Republican Party is getting gutted by Trump and refilled with Liberals & Democrats.  Trump's voting bloc already LOOKS like a third party, a middle-left, left-of-enter party, doesn't it?

In short, I think Rush is correct, Hillary is beatable.  If she was a strong candidate, Bernie would have been long-gone by the end-of-the-year, and it almost looks like he's gaining in popularity!?

If there ever is going to be a viable 3rd party, this might be the best time to do it.

I know it's not true. Granted it's technically to late to try, but lets assume he threw a Tantrumpon, his so called base would quickly be exposed as being smaller than the media made it appear.
Those people would suddenly be isolated, they would see just how small of a group actually supports the lib.
I don't think Trump wants that image being held up for all to see.

Quote from: Hoofer on April 25, 2016, 10:31:40 AM

If there ever is going to be a viable 3rd party, this might be the best time to do it.

If it was anybody, ANYBODY other than Trump....maybe.  Look at how ineptly his campaign has been run and think of the infrastructure needed as well as what they wont be getting from the GOP.

....then factor in everyone jumping off the bandwagon as solar described above.

Hate to agree with Rove, but it is comical

Quote from: Sauce on April 25, 2016, 11:23:19 AM

If it was anybody, ANYBODY other than Trump....maybe.  Look at how ineptly his campaign has been run and think of the infrastructure needed as well as what they wont be getting from the GOP.

....then factor in everyone jumping off the bandwagon as solar described above.

Hate to agree with Rove, but it is comical

I am certainly not a Rove advocate, but he is on target here. If you cannot get on the ballot in all the states his appeal is greatly diminished. He wants no part of being embarrassed.

I'll preface this with, I see from "farthest left" to "left", Bernie, Hillary, Trump.   ...and I don't honestly see any of them winning the General Election... Just an opinion, I think they're all either too far "LEFT", and/or too dishonest and would be easily savaged ("target rich environment", who ever said that, is brilliant, concise).

Quote from: Solar on April 24, 2016, 07:41:27 AM
My personal belief is that Trump hates the GOP'e as libs do, he saw this as an opportunity to help his business and drop out on a high note.
Problem is, he started believing he was exactly what the media was claiming he was, Teflon Don, that he actually had a shot at the WH.
Yeah, he's that much of an idiot, so much so, he's played right into their hands like the useful idiot he is.

Thank God Ted will take the WH instead, but not before Trump does as much damage as possible, even leaving some to question the legitimacy of his a Cruz win.

Why is anyone listening to Carl "Romney" Rove anymore?

I wouldn't be surprised if he did make good on his threat of a third party run and tried it.

Precisely because I agree I think he hates the RNC.

Running on a third party ticket would divide the republican party even more than it is now. Siphoning enough votes off whomever the RNC candidates in, and usher in Hitlery as the winner.

It will be Ross Perot all over again.

God forbid.

Quote from: daidalos on April 26, 2016, 07:06:16 AM
Why is anyone listening to Carl "Romney" Rove anymore?

I wouldn't be surprised if he did make good on his threat of a third party run and tried it.

Precisely because I agree I think he hates the RNC.

Running on a third party ticket would divide the republican party even more than it is now. Siphoning enough votes off whomever the RNC candidates in, and usher in Hitlery as the winner.

It will be Ross Perot all over again.

God forbid.

Nope, Trump is not as popular as the media wants you to think he is, in fact I believe if he was stupid enough to bail, that would end his campaign on the spot.
This Nation hates whiny quitters.

Quote from: supsalemgr on April 25, 2016, 01:39:12 PM
I am certainly not a Rove advocate, but he is on target here. If you cannot get on the ballot in all the states his appeal is greatly diminished. He wants no part of being embarrassed.

Something Mr. Rove apparently has forgotten is that you don't have to run in all the states to win the Presidency.

To win the Presidency you simply have to win the states that will give you enough electoral college votes to win it.

That's achievable, without even running at all in several states, come to think of it.

If Trump is already on the ballot in those states that would give him enough electoral votes to win, as I said I wouldn't bet the farm on what Rove is saying. But then again, as with Obozo, Clinton and Sanders I wouldn't put anything past Donald Trump. Given his clear cut vindictiveness I could see him doing it just to make the party lose.

But then again I've thought he was a plant, put in place just for that purpose since day one too though so....

Quote from: daidalos on April 26, 2016, 11:34:11 AM
Something Mr. Rove apparently has forgotten is that you don't have to run in all the states to win the Presidency.

To win the Presidency you simply have to win the states that will give you enough electoral college votes to win it.

That's achievable, without even running at all in several states, come to think of it.

If Trump is already on the ballot in those states that would give him enough electoral votes to win, as I said I wouldn't bet the farm on what Rove is saying. But then again, as with Obozo, Clinton and Sanders I wouldn't put anything past Donald Trump. Given his clear cut vindictiveness I could see him doing it just to make the party lose.

But then again I've thought he was a plant, put in place just for that purpose since day one too though so....

Here are the deadlines to run for President as an independent:

May 9        Texas

June 6       Colorado
June 16     Vermont
June 24     North Carolina
June 27     Illinois
June 29     Rhode Island
June 30     New Mexico

July 12      Georgia
July 15      Florida, Indiana, Oklahoma, South Carolina

July 18-21  Republican Convention

July 21      Michigan
August 1    Arkansas, Kansas, Missouri, West Virginia, Maryland, Pennsylvania
August 2    South Dakota, Wisconsin

The states whose deadline is before the convention
have a total of 166 electoral votes.

All except Vermont, Rhode Island, Illinois, and New Mexico
have to be considered must-win states
for a Republican to become President.

Quote from: je_freedom on April 27, 2016, 08:16:20 PM
Here are the deadlines to run for President as an independent:

May 9        Texas

June 6       Colorado
June 16     Vermont
June 24     North Carolina
June 27     Illinois
June 29     Rhode Island
June 30     New Mexico

July 12      Georgia
July 15      Florida, Indiana, Oklahoma, South Carolina

July 18-21  Republican Convention

July 21      Michigan
August 1    Arkansas, Kansas, Missouri, West Virginia, Maryland, Pennsylvania
August 2    South Dakota, Wisconsin

The states whose deadline is before the convention
have a total of 166 electoral votes.

All except Vermont, Rhode Island, Illinois, and New Mexico
have to be considered must-win states
for a Republican to become President.

Good post. Thanks. This also shows why the idea GOPe would run a third party candidate is nonsense.