Let's just be honest. Cruz will get hammered in New York because it's full of fragile latte sipping metrosexuals wearing tight jeans, hipster glasses and scarves in July. I'm okay with Trump winning New York because it will make the sad wastes of DNA run for their safe spaces.
The most conservative person in New York is Trump.
So when Trump wins New York it will be spun as Trump stops the Cruz momentum. That's like saying the Yankees can now be considered World Series contenders because they defeated Tampa Bay in Tampa bay.
Yeah it's a big win for Trump but Cruz in New York is like Rommel riding into Jerusalem on a tank and saying "why are they throwing things at me?"
It's as surprising as Cruz winning Texas. Nobody saw that coming...
Because it's Trump's home people are going to look at Trump as a failure for not fully winning NY.
Sure he'll take the city full of hardcore leftists, but it's the rest of the state that doesn't share his values.
No, Trump will not see the victory many in the media think he will and that little loss alone will be devastating.
Quote from: Solar on April 17, 2016, 06:25:57 AM
Because it's Trump's home people are going to look at Trump as a failure for not fully winning NY.
Sure he'll take the city full of hardcore leftists, but it's the rest of the state that doesn't share his values.
No, Trump will not see the victory many in the media think he will and that little loss alone will be devastating.
Starting to hear stuff on late night radio, it might not be such a huge win for Trump - but, they always follow up the "hints" of failures in pockets of NY with the statewide polls. This is far from over, even NY is not a slam dunk. Reminds me of living in the People's Republic of Madison, you'd think EVERYONE is a progressive liberal ... but's it's
just the loud mouth liberals you're hearing.
How the NY delegates will be awarded.
QuoteIn all, 95 Republican delegates and 291 Democratic delegates are up for grabs.
On the GOP side, each of the state's 27 congressional districts have three delegates to award. If a candidate wins 50 percent of the vote in a district, he gets all three. If the winning candidate doesn't hit 50 percent, he will get two delegates and the second-place finisher will get one, provided he gets at least 20 percent of the vote.
The remaining 14 GOP delegates go to the statewide winner — if the candidate wins at least 50 percent of the vote. Otherwise, they're distributed proportionally to all candidates who get at least 20 percent of the vote[/size].
http://www.pressconnects.com/story/news/politics/2016/04/15/need-know-nys-primaries/83097828/
Quote from: Hoofer on April 17, 2016, 06:33:40 AM
Starting to hear stuff on late night radio, it might not be such a huge win for Trump - but, they always follow up the "hints" of failures in pockets of NY with the statewide polls. This is far from over, even NY is not a slam dunk. Reminds me of living in the People's Republic of Madison, you'd think EVERYONE is a progressive liberal ... but's it's just the loud mouth liberals you're hearing.
BINGO!!! Amplified by the media, considering most are all within a few miles of one another.
Like La and Hollyweird, leftists have the podium and bullhorn, but that in no way reflects reality of the silent right.
There's just something about leftists and freaks being the boisterous lot and a need to be noticed, and sacrificing morals and etiquette always gets attention and tends to attract other freaks.
Take Trump and his verbose nonPC approach and how the Trumpaloons get excited over it.
Not that the NY Lib can speak any other way, being somewhat of an illiterate, though that only seems to endear other like minded followers in a kinship that being an idiot in public can be acceptable. (Morons Unite)
I think people who don't live in NY, sometimes are unaware how much the "Bridge and Tunnel" crowd (someone who doesn't live in NYC) really dislike "The City" - especially Manhattan. It seems that Ny is always being run for the benefit of NYC even though the people who don't live in the city outnumber those who do. The Democrats, who have controlled the state for years have gerrymandered it to the point that leftist knuckleheads have influence all out of proportion to their actual numbers. I'm wondering if people in NY have forgotten how long Trump has been seen as tabloid fodder and a supporter of every Leftloon out there.
Quote from: Solar on April 17, 2016, 06:48:15 AM
BINGO!!! Amplified by the media, considering most are all within a few miles of one another.
Like La and Hollyweird, leftists have the podium and bullhorn, but that in no way reflects reality of the silent right.
There's just something about leftists and freaks being the boisterous lot and a need to be noticed, and sacrificing morals and etiquette always gets attention and tends to attract other freaks.
Take Trump and his verbose nonPC approach and how the Trumpaloons get excited over it.
Not that the NY Lib can speak any other way, being somewhat of an illiterate, though that only seems to endear other like minded followers in a kinship that being an idiot in public can be acceptable. (Morons Unite)
Ya know....
that's a great observation, we all see/hear it, and forget. A
volume of voices doesn't equal a
volume of votes, though the MSM wishes we'd cooperate.
Quote from: Hoofer on April 17, 2016, 07:49:50 AM
Ya know.... that's a great observation, we all see/hear it, and forget. A volume of voices doesn't equal a volume of votes, though the MSM wishes we'd cooperate.
The MSM wishes you to give up hope and stay home.
Quote from: mdgiles on April 17, 2016, 07:41:33 AM
I think people who don't live in NY, sometimes are unaware how much the "Bridge and Tunnel" crowd (someone who doesn't live in NYC) really dislike "The City" - especially Manhattan. It seems that Ny is always being run for the benefit of NYC even though the people who don't live in the city outnumber those who do. The Democrats, who have controlled the state for years have gerrymandered it to the point that leftist knuckleheads have influence all out of proportion to their actual numbers. I'm wondering if people in NY have forgotten how long Trump has been seen as tabloid fodder and a supporter of every Leftloon out there.
Exactly Md, it reminds me of medieval times, where those lucky enough to live within the walls of the castle were given a small voice, while those beyond the walls were left to fen for themselves, yet still pay pittance to the Kingdom and do as directed for the sheer privilege of living within sight of the walls.
Never to be seen or heard.
I think New Yorkers beyond the city will have something to say about NY values dude....
Quote from: mdgiles on April 17, 2016, 07:41:33 AM
I think people who don't live in NY, sometimes are unaware how much the "Bridge and Tunnel" crowd (someone who doesn't live in NYC) really dislike "The City" - especially Manhattan. It seems that Ny is always being run for the benefit of NYC even though the people who don't live in the city outnumber those who do. The Democrats, who have controlled the state for years have gerrymandered it to the point that leftist knuckleheads have influence all out of proportion to their actual numbers. I'm wondering if people in NY have forgotten how long Trump has been seen as tabloid fodder and a supporter of every Leftloon out there.
In states where more than half of the population
is concentrated in one city (NYC, Detroit, Chicago)
the rest of the state tends to see that city
as a black hole that contributes nothing,
but just sucks up their tax dollars.
Ted will probably do well upstate.
Quote from: je_freedom on April 17, 2016, 08:25:24 AM
In states where more than half of the population
is concentrated in one city (NYC, Detroit, Chicago)
the rest of the state tends to see that city
as a black hole that contributes nothing,
but just sucks up their tax dollars.
Ted will probably do well upstate.
Now what has Moochelle Obozo have to do with it?
OK, I'll be going now.....
The problem isn;t New Yawk....it is NEW YAWK CITY, there is such a large population that when it votes it renders null and void the rest of the state which has some tried and true conservatives in the dairy farm and rural areas upstate. Its just like Virginia, under the control of the leftists in Northern Virginia, the Federal Govts bedroom community, while the rest of the State is ultra conservative.
Ted Should consider losing New York a badge of honor.
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on April 17, 2016, 08:52:41 AM
The problem isn;t New Yawk....it is NEW YAWK CITY, there is such a large population that when it votes it renders null and void the rest of the state which has some tried and true conservatives in the dairy farm and rural areas upstate. Its just like Virginia, under the control of the leftists in Northern Virginia, the Federal Govts bedroom community, while the rest of the State is ultra conservative.
Ted Should consider losing New York a badge of honor.
Whether he finishes 2nd or 3rd really doesn't matter in the rest of the country. He does need a few delegates, but a GOP candidate is not going to win NY in the general.
I will not be shocked with Cruz coming out of NY with ~30 delegates. I would be even less shocked if Kasich beat Trump.
Quote from: taxed on April 17, 2016, 12:49:27 PM
I will not be shocked with Cruz coming out of NY with ~30 delegates. I would be even less shocked if Kasich beat Trump.
Trump needs to hit this one cleanly out of the park, anything less points to weakness. Probably why he's hanging around NY and ignoring the rest of the states.
Quote from: Hoofer on April 17, 2016, 01:11:11 PM
Trump needs to hit this one cleanly out of the park, anything less points to weakness. Probably why he's hanging around NY and ignoring the rest of the states.
Weakness? You mean like his campaign?
Oh wait, that's not weak, that's nonexistent.
Quote from: Hoofer on April 17, 2016, 01:11:11 PM
Trump needs to hit this one cleanly out of the park, anything less points to weakness. Probably why he's hanging around NY and ignoring the rest of the states.
I would be shocked if Trump got over 50%. I just don't see it. And no way is he 50% on a majority of the districts.
So far it seems Trump had the better in the south while Cruz was dragging Rubio on his back, then Rubio drops, Cruz goes on a tear, and then is circling back to take delegates in the south.
I CAN NOT WAIT for the insiders to come out with their books, etc., in both campaigns. I am fascinated by how this has been turning out. They can all book $29.99 from my end.
Quote from: Solar on April 17, 2016, 01:18:31 PM
Weakness? You mean like his campaign?
Oh wait, that's not weak, that's nonexistent.
Like internal polling in NY... Trump is so EXPECTED to win, I can't find any internal polling.
... I guess that means -ANYTHING- less than 50% for Trump will be unexpected and potentially devastating.
I forget, how much did Cruz win his home state by....?
Quote from: Hoofer on April 17, 2016, 01:53:35 PM
Like internal polling in NY... Trump is so EXPECTED to win, I can't find any internal polling.
... I guess that means -ANYTHING- less than 50% for Trump will be unexpected and potentially devastating.
I forget, how much did Cruz win his home state by....?
100% reporting Delegates Votes
Cruz (won)
104
43.8%
1,239,370
Trump
48
26.7%
757,618
Rubio
3
17.7%
502,223
Kasich
0
4.2%
120,257
Carson
0
4.2%
117,780
Quote from: Solar on April 17, 2016, 02:04:57 PM
100% reporting Delegates Votes
Cruz (won)
104
43.8%
1,239,370
Trump
48
26.7%
757,618
Rubio
3
17.7%
502,223
Kasich
0
4.2%
120,257
Carson
0
4.2%
117,780
So, without Rubio, cruz is around ~60%.
Quote from: taxed on April 17, 2016, 02:06:02 PM
So, without Rubio, cruz is around ~60%.
Add Ksux and Carson and he is closer to 70%.
Quote from: The Boo Man... on April 17, 2016, 01:15:15 AM
Let's just be honest. Cruz will get hammered in New York because it's full of............
-because
he's full of good old American
helium, basically.
I haven't heard him say anything new in weeks. -Oh wait. He was bragging about a voterless landslide in Wyoming...
Quote from: kit saginaw on April 18, 2016, 08:07:43 PM
-because he's full of good old American helium, basically.
I haven't heard him say anything new in weeks. -Oh wait. He was bragging about a voterless landslide in Wyoming...
Trump said: I know the rules very well. :rolleyes: (https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1208.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fcc366%2FPlagueEleven%2FSmileys%2Fundecided.gif&hash=db88cdd595585472d8a4bb29597e2457b071fcb9)
Quote from: kit saginaw on April 18, 2016, 08:07:43 PM
-because he's full of good old American helium, basically.
I haven't heard him say anything new in weeks. -Oh wait. He was bragging about a voterless landslide in Wyoming...
Nobody voted in Wyoming? Does that mean Cruz didn't get any votes either?
Quote from: kit saginaw on April 18, 2016, 08:07:43 PM
-because he's full of good old American helium, basically.
I haven't heard him say anything new in weeks. -Oh wait. He was bragging about a voterless landslide in Wyoming...
As opposed to what Trump says about being the smartest, richest, greatest blah blah blah?
Voterless? Shhhh!!!
Don't tell that to the 97 thousand people that voted in the election process.....
So which is it Kit, is Trump simply stupid of the rules process and missed an entire State, or could it be he decided to skip it because he knew he didn't have a chance in Hell of getting elected, so instead, he capitalized on playing the victim card and lied about being cheated?
You know, in Trump's world, where "losing is the new winning?"
Looks like my original point got lost in the mix. So I shall attempt to clear the murky waters. Trump will win New York. It will be reported as he got his groove back because Cruz has been whipping him like Huma and Hillary in a Soho sex club. it's like a participation trophy. How could Trump not win? He's a dedicated liberal and as I said he is the most conservative person in New York. (Well the most conservative since my last pint in Manhattan).
It means little. However if Cruz takes delegates then things change. Donnie Bails should wipe the floor with Cruz. Anything other than that is a rather big bed wetting evening for Donnie. Flood warnings may be afoot....
Quote from: The Boo Man... on April 18, 2016, 09:21:23 PM
Looks like my original point got lost in the mix. So I shall attempt to clear the murky waters. Trump will win New York. It will be reported as he got his groove back because Cruz has been whipping him like Huma and Hillary in a Soho sex club. it's like a participation trophy. How could Trump not win? He's a dedicated liberal and as I said he is the most conservative person in New York. (Well the most conservative since my last pint in Manhattan).
It means little. However if Cruz takes delegates then things change. Donnie Bails should wipe the floor with Cruz. Anything other than that is a rather big bed wetting evening for Donnie. Flood warnings may be afoot....
Flash Flood Warning New York...
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Quote from: walkstall on April 18, 2016, 09:53:49 PM
Flash Flood Warning New York...
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I don't know who she is but I love zippers...
Quote from: The Boo Man... on April 18, 2016, 10:22:12 PM
I don't know who she is but I love zippers...
Could almost make you start checking out the weather on TV again. :biggrin:
Quote from: walkstall on April 18, 2016, 10:35:56 PM
Could almost make you start checking out the weather on TV again. :biggrin:
I see what you mean. I have this sudden urge to study meteorology....