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Title: Cop Union Boycotts Obama
Post by: kroz on September 09, 2015, 04:08:56 AM
The Baltimore Police Department boycotted Obama's visit to Baltimore out of outrage over his treatment of law enforcement across the country.

http://www.bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/2015/09/horror_show_has_cop_union_boycotting_obama

One thing they cited was Obama's boycotting of the Police officer's funeral in Houston which was attended by 7,000 people.

They also blame Joe Biden because he had promised law enforcement back in 2008 when he was elected VP that he would be a strong advocate for them.  He has not kept that promise.

They are furious!!!

(so am I)
Title: Re: Cop Union Boycotts Obama
Post by: Billy's bayonet on September 09, 2015, 04:32:42 AM
Good, its about time the Police Unions started turning on the Demo-rats and their anti Law and Order agenda. I hope they remember that come election time.

Title: Re: Cop Union Boycotts Obama
Post by: red_dirt on September 09, 2015, 06:13:30 AM
The police ought to be kicking the crap out every punk that looks at a cop sideways
until the little bastards learn some respect. The judges need to get off this Obama
train, and the people with their little video cameras need to shut up and get out of the
way.
Title: Re: Cop Union Boycotts Obama
Post by: kroz on September 09, 2015, 06:52:43 AM
Quote from: red_dirt on September 09, 2015, 06:13:30 AM
The police ought to be kicking the crap out every punk that looks at a cop sideways
until the little bastards learn some respect. The judges need to get off this Obama
train, and the people with their little video cameras need to shut up and get out of the
way.

Yes, and I am furious that the city of Baltimore is giving the family of Freddie Gray 6.4 million $$.   :cursing: :cursing:

This is absolutely INSANE!!!!
Title: Re: Cop Union Boycotts Obama
Post by: Dori on September 09, 2015, 07:23:10 AM
Quote from: kroz on September 09, 2015, 06:52:43 AM
Yes, and I am furious that the city of Baltimore is giving the family of Freddie Gray 6.4 million $$.   :cursing: :cursing:

This is absolutely INSANE!!!!

What's insane, is they've never settled any of these suits for that kind of money, and they did it BEFORE the police in question have been tried. Which also is never done.

It was a deliberate political move, in order to poison the jury pool by making them think the cops must be guilty or they wouldn't have paid out such a large sum.
Title: Re: Cop Union Boycotts Obama
Post by: keyboarder on September 09, 2015, 07:43:02 AM
Quote from: kroz on September 09, 2015, 06:52:43 AM
Yes, and I am furious that the city of Baltimore is giving the family of Freddie Gray 6.4 million $$.   :cursing: :cursing:

This is absolutely INSANE!!!!

Well, the insanity will march right on until "we the people" take a stand.  Sounds to me like this police dept. gets the message loud and clear.  i hope their message will speak volumes as well.  Why do we as a nation put up with crap like what is going on in Baltimore?  If you will notice, any time anything happens to one of the little darlings that wouldn't ever do any of the things it has been proven that they did, it will turn out ok if "enough reparations" are given.  It is all about their being corrected in the first place.  Somehow it gets turned around to be ALL about race and whitey needs to get off our backs.  I'm sick of the mess myself.  Only last week was there a couple of articles about wrongful deaths and the insane amount these families were given.  Granted, no family needs to lose one of its members due to negligence on the part of correctional officers.  Neither should the victim have been in a place to where this could have happened either.  In other words it should matter that the victim was guilty and was placing himself in a position to where the outcome could be predicted.  But, no, we are supposed to turn blind eyes on whatever some of our citizens do for fear of being called out as racists. 

Using the above mentioned tactics, the illegals coming here may want to take notice.  If some of us can get away with this crap, why shouldn't they (illegals) take advantage of the insanity?  All I have to say is that reverse pregudice can be a real butt kicker.
Title: Re: Cop Union Boycotts Obama
Post by: supsalemgr on September 09, 2015, 07:59:26 AM
Quote from: keyboarder on September 09, 2015, 07:43:02 AM

Well, the insanity will march right on until "we the people" take a stand.  Sounds to me like this police dept. gets the message loud and clear.  i hope their message will speak volumes as well.  Why do we as a nation put up with crap like what is going on in Baltimore?  If you will notice, any time anything happens to one of the little darlings that wouldn't ever do any of the things it has been proven that they did, it will turn out ok if "enough reparations" are given.  It is all about their being corrected in the first place.  Somehow it gets turned around to be ALL about race and whitey needs to get off our backs.  I'm sick of the mess myself.  Only last week was there a couple of articles about wrongful deaths and the insane amount these families were given.  Granted, no family needs to lose one of its members due to negligence on the part of correctional officers.  Neither should the victim have been in a place to where this could have happened either.  In other words it should matter that the victim was guilty and was placing himself in a position to where the outcome could be predicted.  But, no, we are supposed to turn blind eyes on whatever some of our citizens do for fear of being called out as racists. 

Using the above mentioned tactics, the illegals coming here may want to take notice.  If some of us can get away with this crap, why shouldn't they (illegals) take advantage of the insanity?  All I have to say is that reverse pregudice can be a real butt kicker.

It is what liberal democrats do with other people's money.
Title: Re: Cop Union Boycotts Obama
Post by: Dori on September 09, 2015, 08:09:49 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on September 09, 2015, 07:59:26 AM
It is what liberal democrats do with other people's money.

It sets a precedent.  The message is; if a family member gets killed by the police (regardless of the reason), start a riot, burn down your town, invite the media, cry about cop brutality and racism and get millions of dollars. 
Title: Re: Cop Union Boycotts Obama
Post by: keyboarder on September 09, 2015, 08:28:59 AM
Quote from: Dori on September 09, 2015, 08:09:49 AM
It sets a precedent.  The message is; if a family member gets killed by the police (regardless of the reason), start a riot, burn down your town, invite the media, cry about cop brutality and racism and get millions of dollars.

You are exactly right.  Are we the only folks seeing this?  How many more millions will be thrown at this problem?  There's too many of them out here that can cause these types of problems and we simply don't have the resources to fund their wants. 

OTOH, the rejects of society have something working for them.  It is their uncanny sense to know how to play situations to their advantage.  If we have so much that we can support illegals and amnesty with all its perks, why can't the rejects get these funds?  See?  With the advent of the illegal, the rejects might be sensing that they are being demoted or upgraded from their position of minority, the former class being tacked on to the illegal.  In other words, the illegals will now be given all the rejects have been getting.  If any of the rejects have to then go to work, they'll be supporting the illegals with us.  Reverse prejudice is then in force and they won't like their end situation any better than we have likened our situation.   
Title: Re: Cop Union Boycotts Obama
Post by: kroz on September 09, 2015, 08:47:13 AM
Ever since Obama took office he has done everything possible to get money into the hands of the black community.  Now that may sound prejudiced, but it is a fact...... cash for clunkers, obama phones, rent subsidies, mortgages with no credit history, .... and much more.  This is what he promised them before the election in 2008, and that is why they came back and voted for him agains in 2012.

Not only has he incited blacks to anger and violence, but he has incited greed and envy.  This is just one more aspect of his "spread the wealth" agenda.  Sue whenever possible.

Just as this administration incited the OWS movement, they have incited the "black lives matter" movement.  He regularly entertains Al Sharpton in the Oval Office because he is an instrument of Obama's agenda to create a race war.

This is why Obama attends black funerals but not police funerals.  He has convinced the blacks that the Police are their enemy.

This man is the most dangerous President in history!!
Title: Re: Cop Union Boycotts Obama
Post by: keyboarder on September 09, 2015, 08:58:13 AM
Quote from: kroz on September 09, 2015, 08:47:13 AM
Ever since Obama took office he has done everything possible to get money into the hands of the black community.  Now that may sound prejudiced, but it is a fact...... cash for clunkers, obama phones, rent subsidies, mortgages with no credit history, .... and much more.  This is what he promised them before the election in 2008, and that is why they came back and voted for him agains in 2012.

Not only has he incited blacks to anger and violence, but he has incited greed and envy.  This is just one more aspect of his "spread the wealth" agenda.  Sue whenever possible.

Just as this administration incited the OWS movement, they have incited the "black lives matter" movement.  He regularly entertains Al Sharpton in the Oval Office because he is an instrument of Obama's agenda to create a race war.

This is why Obama attends black funerals but not police funerals.  He has convinced the blacks that the Police are their enemy.

This man is the most dangerous President in history!!

Dangerous=mad, evil, insane, deliberately devisive, just plain dam crazy.
Title: Re: Cop Union Boycotts Obama
Post by: red_dirt on September 09, 2015, 02:11:08 PM
Quote from: kroz on September 09, 2015, 08:47:13 AM
This is why Obama attends black funerals but not police funerals.  He has convinced the blacks that the Police are their enemy.
This man is the most dangerous President in history!!

Yes, and the darndest thing is the numbers of whites who are convinced that the poh=leese are not only against the blacks, but against their dear  little selves, too. How did they do it? Simple, by deliberately causing the young to lose respect for authority, in uncountable ways. All the tricks, from arresting parents who spanked their child to tolerating disrespect for teachers and the school.

Adults who see the public are shocked to see the way children today talk to their parents.  Well, bring them up that way and expect when things get real, like when the police are involved, the children act just as we might expect. Turn the child against the parent, and sooner or later, the child will come to identify all authority as having no meaning.  Then, once the communists accomplish this goal, what do they do?  Why simple as midnight no knock raids by plain clothes officers, and the "dissidents" simply disappear.  Not needed any more.


Title: Re: Cop Union Boycotts Obama
Post by: kroz on September 09, 2015, 02:34:47 PM
Quote from: red_dirt on September 09, 2015, 02:11:08 PM
Yes, and the darndest thing is the numbers of whites who are convinced that the poh=leese are not only against the blacks, but against their dear  little selves, too. How did they do it? Simple, by deliberately causing the young to lose respect for authority, in uncountable ways. All the tricks, from arresting parents who spanked their child to tolerating disrespect for teachers and the school.

Adults who see the public are shocked to see the way children today talk to their parents.  Well, bring them up that way and expect when things get real, like when the police are involved, the children act just as we might expect. Turn the child against the parent, and sooner or later, the child will come to identify all authority as having no meaning.  Then, once the communists accomplish this goal, what do they do?  Why simple as midnight no knock raids by plain clothes officers, and the "dissidents" simply disappear.  Not needed any more.

You are so right, red_dirt.

Title: Re: Cop Union Boycotts Obama
Post by: je_freedom on September 09, 2015, 03:53:37 PM
It's been alleged that Freddie Gray has a history of injuring himself while in police custody
in order to fabricate grounds for suing the department.

Even if this is true, whenever the police take someone into custody,
they become responsible for his well-being.

Sometimes that means they have to restrain the subject from injuring himself.
This is an issue very often when they have to arrest someone who is drunk or on drugs.

The police have a duty to do better than just not injure the arrestee unnecessarily.
They have the duty to prevent him from injuring himself.
Title: Re: Cop Union Boycotts Obama
Post by: Billy's bayonet on September 09, 2015, 05:43:14 PM
Quote from: je_freedom on September 09, 2015, 03:53:37 PM
It's been alleged that Freddie Gray has a history of injuring himself while in police custody
in order to fabricate grounds for suing the department.

Even if this is true, whenever the police take someone into custody,
they become responsible for his well-being.

Sometimes that means they have to restrain the subject from injuring himself.
This is an issue very often when they have to arrest someone who is drunk or on drugs.

The police have a duty to do better than just not injure the arrestee unnecessarily.
They have the duty to prevent him from injuring himself.


Correct, however, you cannot stop a prisoner from injuring himself unless you hog tie him, wrap him up in a straight jacket and physically restrain him or sedate him. And I Guarantee you that if you take any of those actions (from personal experience) the prisoner will still show signs of trauma and possible permanent injury.
Title: Re: Cop Union Boycotts Obama
Post by: Billy's bayonet on September 09, 2015, 06:15:16 PM
Quote from: kroz on September 09, 2015, 06:52:43 AM
Yes, and I am furious that the city of Baltimore is giving the family of Freddie Gray 6.4 million $$.   :cursing: :cursing:

This is absolutely INSANE!!!!

The Lawyers are going to get most of it....the extended family and assorted hanger on will fight over what is left, and before it's over they will end up broke.
Title: Re: Cop Union Boycotts Obama
Post by: je_freedom on September 09, 2015, 07:39:07 PM
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on September 09, 2015, 05:43:14 PM
Correct, however, you cannot stop a prisoner from injuring himself unless you hog tie him, wrap him up in a straight jacket and physically restrain him or sedate him. And I Guarantee you that if you take any of those actions (from personal experience) the prisoner will still show signs of trauma and possible permanent injury.

Some prisoners would also sue the police department for doing those things, too!