Quote from: ldub23 on June 09, 2023, 07:57:45 AMHe advised everything  be shut  down. He advised  school from which was a disaster. And DeSantis and  Kemp were the first to realize it was time to ditch the  guidelines.

You can not grasp the truth. When Trump was suggesting ideas, NOBODY argued and said NO!!! EVERYBODY FOLLOWED WHAT FAUCI WANTED, EVEN DESANTIS!!! Trump did not shut anything down, DeSantis SHUT DOWN FLORIDA!!!! I'm not blaming him, every state shut down, but THAT WAS THEIR OWN DECISIONS!!!! We are a republic. Now if Florida had NEVER shut down you would have something to discuss. You and WMK are forcing a discussion that I am sure DeSantis would rather go away. As they say, with friends like y'all, who needs enemies.       

Quote from: ldub23 on June 09, 2023, 11:14:46 AMAnd  im the  one who almost  got  banned for  saying Trump was the  only  candidate who could beat  Hillary  Clinton. Right  now  he  is the  only  one who cant  beat  Biden.

What are you basing that on?  Nothing?

Quote from: ldub23 on June 09, 2023, 11:14:46 AMAnd  im the  one who almost  got  banned for  saying Trump was the  only  candidate who could beat  Hillary  Clinton. Right  now  he  is the  only  one who cant  beat  Biden.

I believe you.
Wasn't too long ago somewhere on this site when both Solar and Possum said they liked DeSantis as a politician. Now, he's suddenly become the embodiment of every evil under the sun. But this is how it is with those who're programmed and too emotionally invested in Trump. You soon begin to realize it's a waste of time to answer their responses with anything other than absurdities -  They get back what they give.
Think all this may be why other posters don't participate too much on the debate forum.

Quote from: WMK on June 09, 2023, 01:22:01 PMI believe you.
Wasn't too long ago somewhere on this site when both Solar and Possum said they liked DeSantis as a politician. Now, he's suddenly become the embodiment of every evil under the sun. But this is how it is with those who're programmed and too emotionally invested in Trump. You soon begin to realize it's a waste of time to answer their responses with anything other than absurdities -  They get back what they give.
Think all this may be why other posters don't participate too much on the debate forum.

They stifle debate instead  of  encouraging  it. Im all about winning and Trump will not  only  lose to Biden but  he will deliver the  house and senate to the dems. Without  218 and  51 conservatives can harp all they want  about conservative  policy but  it means absolutely nothing if reps are  in the minority  in the senate and  house.

Quote from: ldub23 on June 09, 2023, 01:44:35 PMThey stifle debate instead  of  encouraging  it. Im all about winning and Trump will not  only  lose to Biden but  he will deliver the  house and senate to the dems. Without  218 and  51 conservatives can harp all they want  about conservative  policy but  it means absolutely nothing if reps are  in the minority  in the senate and  house.

Can't argue that looking back at Trump's record for the last 3 election cycles. This past election was a real indictment in that regard.

Quote from: WMK on June 09, 2023, 01:22:01 PMI believe you.
Wasn't too long ago somewhere on this site when both Solar and Possum said they liked DeSantis as a politician. Now, he's suddenly become the embodiment of every evil under the sun. But this is how it is with those who're programmed and too emotionally invested in Trump. You soon begin to realize it's a waste of time to answer their responses with anything other than absurdities -  They get back what they give.
Think all this may be why other posters don't participate too much on the debate forum.

Prove that was said, and include it in context. You are on thin ground here, your choice is to prove or retract. The discussion is focusing on the presidential election and what YOU posted is insinuating we have endorsed him for president.

Quote from: WMK on June 09, 2023, 02:27:27 PMCan't argue that looking back at Trump's record for the last 3 election cycles. This past election was a real indictment in that regard.

The  only reasons 2022 wasnt  a complete disaster was  2 people. Lee Zeldin ran a strong statewide anti-crime  campaign in NY that  elected reps  to the house. DeSantis 20 point  victory  in FLA swept  in some reps there. We should  have won at  least  35 seats. We should have won the senate but  horrible  candidates  in NH, GA, AZ, PA prevented that. We  lost all the  important gov's races  again because we stupidly nominated  unelectable  candidates. Here  is a good  example locally  of  how dems  nationwide spent  tons  of  money in rep primaries to get  the most  unelectable  candidate  nominated. In my  district we  had Jen Kiggans running against  Luria. It was going to be an easy  rep pick up. In the  nomination fight Kiggans was running against some  nut that  would have  lost to Luria. Dems spent  huge amounts  of  money  propping  up the  nut. Luckily, our  local radio morning  show pointed  out  on a daily  basis what was  going  on.

Quote from: ldub23 on June 09, 2023, 03:02:22 PMThe  only reasons 2022 wasnt  a complete disaster was  2 people. Lee Zeldin ran a strong statewide anti-crime  campaign in NY that  elected reps  to the house. DeSantis 20 point  victory  in FLA swept  in some reps there. We should  have won at  least  35 seats. We should have won the senate but  horrible  candidates  in NH, GA, AZ, PA prevented that. We  lost all the  important gov's races  again because we stupidly nominated  unelectable  candidates. Here  is a good  example locally  of  how dems  nationwide spent  tons  of  money in rep primaries to get  the most  unelectable  candidate  nominated. In my  district we  had Jen Kiggans running against  Luria. It was going to be an easy  rep pick up. In the  nomination fight Kiggans was running against some  nut that  would have  lost to Luria. Dems spent  huge amounts  of  money  propping  up the  nut. Luckily, our  local radio morning  show pointed  out  on a daily  basis what was  going  on.

I warned you, that you had till this afternoon to prove Trump praised the UN, but you knew that was a lie and refused to support it or retract it.
You know we don't allow lying on this forum, stupid opinions yes, but lying, never!

You're gone loser!

Quote from: Solar on June 09, 2023, 04:20:42 PMI warned you, that you had till this afternoon to prove Trump praised the UN, but you knew that was a lie and refused to support it or retract it.
You know we don't allow lying on this forum, stupid opinions yes, but lying, never!

You're gone loser!

"Physician, heal thyself." I caught you lying in your posts to me and about me on numerous occasions. Who bans you? It becomes obvious why very few now post on this debate site. Lying, hypocrisy and uncontrolled outburst are what you mainly personify. So who's gonna wanna continue to post here?  And the patterns the same. Whenever someone post something that's substantive and indisputable -like Trump's lying about NY vs. Fla.,you go into a tirade like an ignoramus because you can't control your anger.  You're banning Idub23 NOW because of what he's now posting. The UN deal should have been dealt with immediately if you were telling the truth about why you're banning him. Either that or you're derelict in your job as an 'admin.'
Time someone called you out on your own hypocrisy.

Quote from: ldub23 on June 09, 2023, 03:02:22 PMThe  only reasons 2022 wasnt  a complete disaster was  2 people. Lee Zeldin ran a strong statewide anti-crime  campaign in NY that  elected reps  to the house. DeSantis 20 point  victory  in FLA swept  in some reps there. We should  have won at  least  35 seats. We should have won the senate but  horrible  candidates  in NH, GA, AZ, PA prevented that. We  lost all the  important gov's races  again because we stupidly nominated  unelectable  candidates. Here  is a good  example locally  of  how dems  nationwide spent  tons  of  money in rep primaries to get  the most  unelectable  candidate  nominated. In my  district we  had Jen Kiggans running against  Luria. It was going to be an easy  rep pick up. In the  nomination fight Kiggans was running against some  nut that  would have  lost to Luria. Dems spent  huge amounts  of  money  propping  up the  nut. Luckily, our  local radio morning  show pointed  out  on a daily  basis what was  going  on.

You've obviously been over the target here for too long here to be tolerated. That's the problem with cults, some members tend to become 'religious zealots' at some point and turn into the very dictators and fascists that they claim to hate. It's no wonder you can count the number of active posters on the debate forum on one hand. 

Quote from: WMK on June 09, 2023, 05:44:06 PMYou've obviously been over the target here for too long here to be tolerated. That's the problem with cults, some members tend to become 'religious zealots' at some point and turn into the very dictators and fascists that they claim to hate. It's no wonder you can count the number of active posters on the debate forum on one hand.

The clock is running. You have something to prove or retract.

QuoteWasn't too long ago somewhere on this site when both Solar and Possum said they liked DeSantis as a politician.

QuoteProve that was said, and include it in context. You are on thin ground here, your choice is to prove or retract. The discussion is focusing on the presidential election and what YOU posted is insinuating we have endorsed him for president.

As Idub finally learned, lying is not allowed. ANYTHING you can say and back up is allowed.

Quote from: WMK on June 09, 2023, 05:35:54 PM"Physician, heal thyself." I caught you lying in your posts to me and about me on numerous occasions. Who bans you? It becomes obvious why very few now post on this debate site. Lying, hypocrisy and uncontrolled outburst are what you mainly personify. So who's gonna wanna continue to post here?  And the patterns the same. Whenever someone post something that's substantive and indisputable -like Trump's lying about NY vs. Fla.,you go into a tirade like an ignoramus because you can't control your anger.  You're banning Idub23 NOW because of what he's now posting. The UN deal should have been dealt with immediately if you were telling the truth about why you're banning him. Either that or you're derelict in your job as an 'admin.'
Time someone called you out on your own hypocrisy.

Show me where I lied about you! You've proven you're some ignorant kid who knows nothing about our recent history, hence the term "Kid", and two, you support DeSantis, a child Pol Selected by the NWO Uniparty.
Which in itself proves you to be a lib.

Anger? Nope, ldub was banned over a year ago for blatant lies, only when he discovered he could use his phone, is when he started trolling again.
He was warned multiple time about fabricating shit, and never once retracted his statement, nor backed them up with actual proof.

As to the forum appearing slow, historically, this is a relatively slow time because most people have a life.
Winter is when things heat up, usually Oct  thru Dec.
But right now, most are sick of politics, period, and are doing their best to avoid it, especially considering they believe they've lost their voice.

So go ahead and prove I lied about anything! LIB!

Oh, and since I own the forum? No one calls the shots but me, though Taxed has the power to speak his piece, since he's my partner and the head Admin.

DeSantis In the Lead To Single Digits.              

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