Excellent article.
http://www.redstate.com/diary/coldwarrior/2014/07/19/conservatives-can-get-rnc-address-ms-establishment-problem-right-now/ (http://www.redstate.com/diary/coldwarrior/2014/07/19/conservatives-can-get-rnc-address-ms-establishment-problem-right-now/)
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How?
Get more conservatives into the "voting member" slots of the Republican Party who vote to elect the members of the Republican National Committee.
Is it hard to do?
No.
But it takes a little bit of time and effort.
So, can conservatives get the RNC to address the MS "Establishment problem" right now? Probably not. But they could in the future. Indeed, if conservatives began flocking into their respective local Republican Party committee meetings this month and every month thereafter, in great numbers, they could have an immediate impact on the conduct of some of the current RNC members.
EDIT: Everyone needs to read this! If you are halfway serious about taking back the party, this is a road map. We all need to become experts on this. There are a few links too from others who are writing about this.
we address the MS problem by not being put on a leash by Barbour. Dont vote Cochran.
Quote from: dashvinny on July 21, 2014, 08:30:14 AM
we address the MS problem by not being put on a leash by Barbour. Dont vote Cochran.
Thanks for not reading the article.
Quote from: taxed on July 21, 2014, 08:52:01 AM
Thanks for not reading the article.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Comprehension?
Quote from: Solar on July 21, 2014, 09:00:19 AM
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Comprehension?
He's just mailing it in. He wines and cries, the author gives us another angle of attack, and he grabs his Kleenex, hops on the couch, eats a bowl of ice cream, and watches some "Beaches".
Quote from: taxed on July 21, 2014, 09:01:56 AM
He's just mailing it in. He wines and cries, the author gives us another angle of attack, and he grabs his Kleenex, hops on the couch, eats a bowl of ice cream, and watches some "Beaches".
We (TEA) could take every state in the union, with only one RINO standing, and he'd still see it as a defeat.
Quote from: Solar on July 21, 2014, 09:09:49 AM
We (TEA) could take every state in the union, with only one RINO standing, and he'd still see it as a defeat.
Absolutely.
People, this is a must read.
It is our way of taking over the GOP at the grassroots level, in fact, it multiplies your single vote times ten thousand.
Quote from: Solar on July 21, 2014, 04:08:37 PM
People, this is a must read.
It is our way of taking over the GOP at the grassroots level, in fact, it multiplies your single vote times ten thousand.
This is a great idea. Unfortunately, there are so many complainers, and so few doers. I will look into this locally. I hope a thousand other will too. I'll try to become active in one of the local Tea Party groups too.
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Much has already been written about what Republican "Establishment" people did in the Mississippi primary run-off election on behalf of incumbent Thad Cochran.
Some have written a letter to Republican Party National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus to "investigate" the "potentially illegal" activities of these "Establishment" people.
Chairman Priebus might acquiesce to these demands, but I doubt it. Why do I doubt it? Because, looking at the names of the signers of the letter, it appears only one or two of them are actually members of the Republican National Committee.
Why would the signers' status "in" the Party be important? Because Reince Priebus's constituency consists of the national committee members. These are the people who elected him in January, 2013 and might re-elect him to the chairmanship in the next election in January, 2015. See Rules 2 and 5 of the Rules of the Republican Party. If he wants retain his position, or be re-elected, then he cares whether his constituency thinks he ought to be doing a particular thing; I do not believe he cares very much what others, not part of his constituency, think he ought to be doing.
By contrast, what if a majority of the RNC members had written such a letter to Chairman Priebus? Or, better still, tw0-thirds of them? Why might such letters from RNC members have an effect on Chairman Priebus? Because he knows, under Rule 5, the RNC Chairman is elected by a majority vote of the RNC members and, "The chairman or co-chairman may be removed from office only by a two-thirds (2/3) vote of the entire Republican National Committee."
So, why has such a letter not been written? Well, probably because there are not enough conservatives among the members of the Republican National Committee to constitute either a majority or a two-thirds majority of the membership to sign either such letter.
Can that be changed?
Of course.
The Rest of the Story (http://www.redstate.com/diary/coldwarrior/2014/07/19/conservatives-can-get-rnc-address-ms-establishment-problem-right-now/)
Quote from: carlb on July 21, 2014, 05:30:21 PM
This is a great idea. Unfortunately, there are so many complainers, and so few doers. I will look into this locally. I hope a thousand other will too. I'll try to become active in one of the local Tea Party groups too.
Well don't hurt yourself...
I hate to be a Negative Nelly, but the Republican Establishment is never going to give up power - especially not to Tea Party types. If you had any doubt about that, Mississippi should have been your wake up call!
Oh, this article pushes all the right button, Stay true! Change the party from within! Victory is just around the corner! Yada... yada... yada...
I've been hearing that crap for the past quarter of a century, and yet, election after election I've seen the Republican Elite snatch defeat out of the jaws of Victory!
And what happened when the Republicans did have The Power (The White House, and both Houses of Congress)? We got the Patriot Act, the NDAA, Homeland Security, bailout of the airlines following 9/11. Domestic Spying, mandatory frisking and virtual strip search of airline passengers... and that is just the tip of the iceberg. In short, under the leadership of a Republican president and a Republican Congress, we have seen the greatest usurpation of Individual Liberties in this country since we were all subjects of the British Crown!
It is said that doing the same thing in the same way over and over again and expecting different results is one definition of insanity. Well, isn't that exactly what this article is asking you to do? Do what you have done since Reagan was in office, over and over again in the same manner, on the hope that one day (in the distant future?) you will see a different result?
Now, given the results we've see thus far, don't you think that is just a little bit insane?
-Darth
Quote from: Darth Fife on July 24, 2014, 03:37:15 PM
I hate to be a Negative Nelly, but the Republican Establishment is never going to give up power - especially not to Tea Party types. If you had any doubt about that, Mississippi should have been your wake up call!
Oh, this article pushes all the right button, Stay true! Change the party from within! Victory is just around the corner! Yada... yada... yada...
I've been hearing that crap for the past quarter of a century, and yet, election after election I've seen the Republican Elite snatch defeat out of the jaws of Victory!
And what happened when the Republicans did have The Power (The White House, and both Houses of Congress)? We got the Patriot Act, the NDAA, Homeland Security, bailout of the airlines following 9/11. Domestic Spying, mandatory frisking and virtual strip search of airline passengers... and that is just the tip of the iceberg. In short, under the leadership of a Republican president and a Republican Congress, we have seen the greatest usurpation of Individual Liberties in this country since we were all subjects of the British Crown!
It is said that doing the same thing in the same way over and over again and expecting different results is one definition of insanity. Well, isn't that exactly what this article is asking you to do? Do what you have done since Reagan was in office, over and over again in the same manner, on the hope that one day (in the distant future?) you will see a different result?
Now, given the results we've see thus far, don't you think that is just a little bit insane?
-Darth
So an
historic 2010 mid term where the TEA stole more than 700 Legislative seats across the country, meant nothing?
Go ahead and be as negative as you like, but Nov will make you look the fool you portray yourself to be.
Everybody expects instant results. It's a plague that seems to only afflict those on the right. The Left is patient in achieving their goals. They see even babysteps as a win, as long as it brings them on step closer to their goals
Quote from: carlb on July 24, 2014, 05:09:54 PM
Everybody expects instant results. It's a plague that seems to only afflict those on the right. The Left is patient in achieving their goals. They see even babysteps as a win, as long as it brings them on step closer to their goals
True, it's a proven method, they just keep chipping away at the Constitution.
Of course we're not going to save the country with a couple of elections, but by God, we're on the path of reversing decades of damage both party's have done.
Quote from: Darth Fife on July 24, 2014, 03:37:15 PM
I hate to be a Negative Nelly, but the Republican Establishment is never going to give up power - especially not to Tea Party types. If you had any doubt about that, Mississippi should have been your wake up call!
Oh, this article pushes all the right button, Stay true! Change the party from within! Victory is just around the corner! Yada... yada... yada...
I've been hearing that crap for the past quarter of a century, and yet, election after election I've seen the Republican Elite snatch defeat out of the jaws of Victory!
And what happened when the Republicans did have The Power (The White House, and both Houses of Congress)? We got the Patriot Act, the NDAA, Homeland Security, bailout of the airlines following 9/11. Domestic Spying, mandatory frisking and virtual strip search of airline passengers... and that is just the tip of the iceberg. In short, under the leadership of a Republican president and a Republican Congress, we have seen the greatest usurpation of Individual Liberties in this country since we were all subjects of the British Crown!
It is said that doing the same thing in the same way over and over again and expecting different results is one definition of insanity. Well, isn't that exactly what this article is asking you to do? Do what you have done since Reagan was in office, over and over again in the same manner, on the hope that one day (in the distant future?) you will see a different result?
Now, given the results we've see thus far, don't you think that is just a little bit insane?
-Darth
The article promotes conservatives flooding the party.
Quote from: taxed on July 25, 2014, 03:11:33 AM
The article promotes conservatives flooding the party.
He's become so cynical, that even good news to him is bad news.
Granted, when one looks at GOP history, even a win was somehow turned into a piece of shit, but that was when RINO had the helm.
Those days are coming to an end very soon.
Quote from: Solar on July 25, 2014, 06:39:50 AM
He's become so cynical, that even good news to him is bad news.
Granted, when one looks at GOP history, even a win was somehow turned into a piece of shit, but that was when RINO had the helm.
Those days are coming to an end very soon.
Not cynical, my friend, a realist.
You mention the 2010 election. Tell me what came of that election?
Were we able to to repeal Obamacare?
Were we able to even defund any part of Obamacare?
Hell! Were we able to get the Democrats to agree to a Federal Budget the way they are required to by Federal law?
NO!
No, I don't expect to see "instant" results, however, I do expect to see
some results!
And let's say we do win the Senate in November. Guess who is going to become Senate Majority Leader?
Mitch McConnell!
You remember Mitch McConnell, don't you?
"I think we are going to crush them [The Tea Party] everywhere..." This, and that POS Speaker of the House are the ones who are going to give Conservatives leadership positions in the party?
Come on, man! Share whatever it is you are smoking because that is obviously some
good stuff!
-Darth
Quote from: Darth Fife on July 25, 2014, 07:27:02 AM
Not cynical, my friend, a realist.
You mention the 2010 election. Tell me what came of that election?
Were we able to to repeal Obamacare?
Were we able to even defund any part of Obamacare?
Hell! Were we able to get the Democrats to agree to a Federal Budget the way they are required to by Federal law?
NO!
No, I don't expect to see "instant" results, however, I do expect to see some results!
And let's say we do win the Senate in November. Guess who is going to become Senate Majority Leader?
Mitch McConnell!
You remember Mitch McConnell, don't you?
"I think we are going to crush them [The Tea Party] everywhere..."
This, and that POS Speaker of the House are the ones who are going to give Conservatives leadership positions in the party?
Come on, man! Share whatever it is you are smoking because that is obviously some good stuff!
-Darth
So now you're a prophet? Feel free to show us the TEA leaves, oh wise one.
Quote from: Darth Fife on July 25, 2014, 07:27:02 AM
Not cynical, my friend, a realist.
You mention the 2010 election. Tell me what came of that election?
Were we able to to repeal Obamacare?
Were we able to even defund any part of Obamacare?
Hell! Were we able to get the Democrats to agree to a Federal Budget the way they are required to by Federal law?
NO!
No, I don't expect to see "instant" results, however, I do expect to see some results!
And let's say we do win the Senate in November. Guess who is going to become Senate Majority Leader?
Mitch McConnell!
You remember Mitch McConnell, don't you?
"I think we are going to crush them [The Tea Party] everywhere..."
This, and that POS Speaker of the House are the ones who are going to give Conservatives leadership positions in the party?
Come on, man! Share whatever it is you are smoking because that is obviously some good stuff!
-Darth
Tell it to Eric Cantor.
Have you read the article?
Re North Carolina, from helmsconservative in the comments:
QuoteI agree that we need to get involved in the party structure to get the party leadership on the same page as the party base. The process of electing national committeemen and committeewoman vary somewhat by state. In North Carolina, precinct committeeman only functions within the precinct. The precinct delegates to the county convention elect county delegates to the state convention which then nominates the candidates from the state for national committeeman and national committeewoman. Those county delegates in odd numbered years elect the state chairman, who also votes on the national committee. In North Carolina, the delegate allocation to counties is so generous that it is rare that counties have full delegations, which means that anyone who is there at the county convention wanting to be a state delegate usually can be and will get a vote at the state convention. The same holds true at precinct meetings to elect delegates to the county convention. In North Carolina, if you show up, you can be part of the process.
Quote from: Darth Fife on July 25, 2014, 07:27:02 AM
Not cynical, my friend, a realist.
You mention the 2010 election. Tell me what came of that election?
Were we able to to repeal Obamacare?
Were we able to even defund any part of Obamacare?
Hell! Were we able to get the Democrats to agree to a Federal Budget the way they are required to by Federal law?
NO!
No, I don't expect to see "instant" results, however, I do expect to see some results!
And let's say we do win the Senate in November. Guess who is going to become Senate Majority Leader?
Mitch McConnell!
You remember Mitch McConnell, don't you?
"I think we are going to crush them [The Tea Party] everywhere..."
This, and that POS Speaker of the House are the ones who are going to give Conservatives leadership positions in the party?
Come on, man! Share whatever it is you are smoking because that is obviously some good stuff!
-Darth
"You mention the 2010 election. Tell me what came of that election? "
Taking control of the House was monumental. Your points about not getting things done is more a result of Harry Reid sitting on bills passed by the House. Also, in 2010 a wave began on the state level to add GOP majorities in several states and also some governorships. At this point it is time to concentrate on taking the Senate this fall. Then much can be done which will make Obama take some stances he does not want to take.
A 60% majority should be our goal. Then we have no excuse!
Quote from: taxed on July 25, 2014, 07:36:35 AM
Tell it to Eric Cantor.
Have you read the article?
Eric Cantor... Eric Cantor... Ah you mean the
next Chairman of the RNC? That Eric Cantor?
-Darth
Quote from: Darth Fife on July 25, 2014, 03:57:25 PM
Eric Cantor... Eric Cantor... Ah you mean the next Chairman of the RNC? That Eric Cantor?
-Darth
Please try and keep up.
Eric Cantor Defeated by David Brat,
Tea Party Challenger
Quote from: Solar on July 25, 2014, 07:36:26 AM
So now you're a prophet? Feel free to show us the TEA leaves, oh wise one.
Sure!
IF we do win the Senate, it will be as ineffective with Mitch McConnell as the Senate Majority Leader as the House has been with no-balls Boehner as Speaker of the House.
They will NOT Impeach Obama. Period!
In 2016 the Republican Establishment will run Jeb Bush for president and either Ben Carson or Chris Christi as vice president. The same political advisers and handlers that lost the last two elections will be running the 2016 election for the Republicans. They will give our candidates the same advise and run the campaign in the exact same way as they did in 2008 and 2012.
Guess what will happen?
They will lose to Hilary Clinton - possibly in a landslide!
There is really not great trick to foretelling the future when it comes to the Republican. They'll do what they've always done and you'll get what you've always got!
-Darth
Quote from: Darth Fife on July 25, 2014, 04:19:01 PM
Sure!
IF we do win the Senate, it will be as ineffective with Mitch McConnell as the Senate Majority Leader as the House has been with no-balls Boehner as Speaker of the House.
They will NOT Impeach Obama. Period!
In 2016 the Republican Establishment will run Jeb Bush for president and either Ben Carson or Chris Christi as vice president. The same political advisers and handlers that lost the last two elections will be running the 2016 election for the Republicans. They will give our candidates the same advise and run the campaign in the exact same way as they did in 2008 and 2012.
Guess what will happen?
They will lose to Hilary Clinton - possibly in a landslide!
There is really not great trick to foretelling the future when it comes to the Republican. They'll do what they've always done and you'll get what you've always got!
-Darth
So lets see, TEA seizes 700+ Legislative seats in 2010, which has never happened before, will take both Houses in Nov, and keep in mind, this is the base putting Conservatives in office, not RINO.
Do you really think McConnell will hold his seat for very long when he starts pissing off the base?
The rest of you nonsense is pure drivel, and has absolutely no basis ins reality.
Quote from: Solar on July 25, 2014, 04:26:16 PM
So lets see, TEA seizes 700+ Legislative seats in 2010, which has never happened before, will take both Houses in Nov, and keep in mind, this is the base putting Conservatives in office, not RINO.
Do you really think McConnell will hold his seat for very long when he starts pissing off the base?
The rest of you nonsense is pure drivel, and has absolutely no basis ins reality.
Do you care to explain what happened in 2012? The GOP, instead of picking up seats, lost about a dozen in the House, and in the Senate, of the Tea Party candidates, only Ted Cruz won, IIRC.
Of course, if the GOP had actually
supported the Tea Party candidates, things might have been different.
Never underestimate the Republican Establishment's ability to bite its own nose just to spite its face!
-Darth
Quote from: Darth Fife on July 25, 2014, 04:44:23 PM
Do you care to explain what happened in 2012? The GOP, instead of picking up seats, lost about a dozen in the House, and in the Senate, of the Tea Party candidates, only Ted Cruz won, IIRC.
Of course, if the GOP had actually supported the Tea Party candidates, things might have been different.
Never underestimate the Republican Establishment's ability to bite its own nose just to spite its face!
-Darth
Because historically, Conservatives always turn out for mid terms, while the kids turn out to back a Dim rockstar during Presidential elections.
And tell me what RINO did the GOP offer up to us in 2012, that failed miserably?
So tell me, what rockstar is the Dim party pushing this time around? Keep in mind, they're old enough to be grand parents to the kids they hope to excite.
Fact is, the Dim party is dead, not just down for the count, but dead. The Dim party as you know it today will never return, they can't run on the Marxists policies of failure, so what options do they have?
Run to the Right of RINO, or admit to being Marxists and hope for the best?
Not much room to bail themselves out this time.
Quote from: Solar on July 25, 2014, 07:00:52 PM
Because historically, Conservatives always turn out for mid terms, while the kids turn out to back a Dim rockstar during Presidential elections.
And tell me what RINO did the GOP offer up to us in 2012, that failed miserably?
So tell me, what rockstar is the Dim party pushing this time around? Keep in mind, they're old enough to be grand parents to the kids they hope to excite.
Fact is, the Dim party is dead, not just down for the count, but dead. The Dim party as you know it today will never return, they can't run on the Marxists policies of failure, so what options do they have?
Run to the Right of RINO, or admit to being Marxists and hope for the best?
Not much room to bail themselves out this time.
One of the most dangerous things you can do is to declare an opponent dead when he still has life!
Don't forget, the NEA has a stranglehold on education in this country and they've been programming good little socialist boys and girls for the past 30 or 40 years or so. These hoards of young socialists/Marxists wannabes are now out in the world and ready to take their marching orders! (At least the ones that have moved out of their mother's basements are).
And, of course, we have our uninvited "guests" from south of the border to help them stuff the ballot boxes (no I.D. requried!).
Also, remember, the MSM is still on the Democrats side (and always will be).
As for candidates, if they don't run Hilary there are at least a half dozen young Democrats willing to throw their hats into the ring - Elizabeth Warren, Brian Schweitzer, Martin O'Malley, Amy Klobuchar, Kristen Gillibrand, and last but not least, Andrew Cuomo. Now, if some of this names don't ring a bell, just remember, who the hell knew who Barack Hussein Obama was this far out from the election of 2008!
I wouldn't put it past the Democrats to try to run Gabby Giffords! She'd probably win too! :rolleyes:
Complacency is one luxury we can not afford!
-Darth
Quote from: Darth Fife on July 25, 2014, 07:32:08 PM
One of the most dangerous things you can do is to declare an opponent dead when he still has life!
Don't forget, the NEA has a stranglehold on education in this country and they've been programming good little socialist boys and girls for the past 30 or 40 years or so. These hoards of young socialists/Marxists wannabes are now out in the world and ready to take their marching orders! (At least the ones that have moved out of their mother's basements are).
And, of course, we have our uninvited "guests" from south of the border to help them stuff the ballot boxes (no I.D. requried!).
Also, remember, the MSM is still on the Democrats side (and always will be).
As for candidates, if they don't run Hilary there are at least a half dozen young Democrats willing to throw their hats into the ring - Elizabeth Warren, Brian Schweitzer, Martin O'Malley, Amy Klobuchar, Kristen Gillibrand, and last but not least, Andrew Cuomo. Now, if some of this names don't ring a bell, just remember, who the hell knew who Barack Hussein Obama was this far out from the election of 2008!
I wouldn't put it past the Democrats to try to run Gabby Giffords! She'd probably win too! :rolleyes:
Complacency is one luxury we can not afford!
-Darth
I never said Marxism was dead, just the party promoting socialism under the guise of being for the little guy.
No, they will never give up, but they've exposed their agenda, one the entire nation has rejected, but you just haven't heard about the demise of the party, because the leftist media has yet to pull the plug on it's life support.
Quote from: Darth Fife on July 25, 2014, 07:32:08 PM
One of the most dangerous things you can do is to declare an opponent dead when he still has life!
Don't forget, the NEA has a stranglehold on education in this country and they've been programming good little socialist boys and girls for the past 30 or 40 years or so. These hoards of young socialists/Marxists wannabes are now out in the world and ready to take their marching orders! (At least the ones that have moved out of their mother's basements are).
And, of course, we have our uninvited "guests" from south of the border to help them stuff the ballot boxes (no I.D. requried!).
Also, remember, the MSM is still on the Democrats side (and always will be).
As for candidates, if they don't run Hilary there are at least a half dozen young Democrats willing to throw their hats into the ring - Elizabeth Warren, Brian Schweitzer, Martin O'Malley, Amy Klobuchar, Kristen Gillibrand, and last but not least, Andrew Cuomo. Now, if some of this names don't ring a bell, just remember, who the hell knew who Barack Hussein Obama was this far out from the election of 2008!
I wouldn't put it past the Democrats to try to run Gabby Giffords! She'd probably win too! :rolleyes:
Complacency is one luxury we can not afford!
-Darth
We could spend an entire week telling each other that "our dog was the meanest" but that kind of attitude will get us nowhere. Why not be more for solution than for being part of the problem? Arguing over who is right and who is wrong is a waste of time.
Conservatives are well aware of the Marxists' strategy. There are still a few good history lessons left to teach us what the Marxists would have us to forget. We can see history trying to repeat itself thru the horrors of wars past, most notably the WW's.
The classrooms aren't getting the job done good enough for Bozo either in his attempts to indoctrinate our young. You do know that was one of his first "tricks" when he first went in office, don't you? It didn't bode well here in SC.
Using the children is a great example of the evil intent of his majesty, as a matter of fact-the LSM too. The children are Bozo's "Trojan Horse". We are supposed to be humanitarians to these poor little helpless children when we've got thousands in America that are depending on religous groups to help them because the government (the same government that's going and getting these border kids) will not do the humanitarian work for its own. Something wrong with that picture.
Whether you realize it or not, Bozo is losing ground on every issue. Too many scandals, out and out bad moves by him to keep power. Why? Simply this. We may have a person in our nation's highest office that is honestly the worst person that could ever be elected but remember that all of us didn't vote him in. I never would have voted him in because there was not enough known about him to start with. Secondly, I have never agreed with Democrap ideology. I can guarantee you that many people wish that they had taken the time to find out a little more about Bozo than they did. Turns out that Bozo isn't operating like a demo, rather a Marxist.
As for the border crisis? I don't think for a skinny minute that Bozo just wants these people here to vote for the democraps. He has a much more sinister intent than that. Remember seeing the faces of so many thousands of impressionable young Germans during Hitler's reign? The children's army? Saluting to their savior? Along with their dumb-azzed parents? How did that misplaced adoration work for them? They were an economically depressed nation when Hitler came in and told them what they wanted to hear, that he had a plan to bring them out of all their misery and even set them on top of the world. Did the media help him?
The media was his ally until someone wise enough and brave enough to tell the world what was going on-with pictures. The germans who "went along to get along" paid a dear price too, didn't they? See there are those of us that remember all about that time because of relatives that fought Hitler and lived to come home and tell it as it really was. We don't all have to believe in a history that is rewritten to put the bad guys in a better light.
Darth, we here on this conservative forum know and are fully aware of all of the problems facing us but we are resigned to take the high road. We've all been realists, that's why we are here now. There's just no damned giving up so if you want to fight the good fight with us-fine. You make a good many observations but overall you are depressing and that may be the point you are driving at but if not, try to find something positive to reflect. There's enough negativity out here and we need to focus on the positive strides that are being made each and every day.
Quote from: Darth Fife on July 25, 2014, 03:57:25 PM
Eric Cantor... Eric Cantor... Ah you mean the next Chairman of the RNC? That Eric Cantor?
-Darth
Uh oh, looks like someone refuses to read the article and wants to huff and puff in a circle.
The RNC Chairman is what the article is keyed on, since Rince won't listen to us, but just RNC members. Also, Eric Cantor lost because of the strategy executed in the article (and linked articles). But, don't worry your pretty little head on all that solution stuff.
Quote from: keyboarder on July 26, 2014, 04:12:09 AM
We could spend an entire week telling each other that "our dog was the meanest" but that kind of attitude will get us nowhere. Why not be more for solution than for being part of the problem? Arguing over who is right and who is wrong is a waste of time.
Not really, people who decide to go it alone and squander their vote on a purist candidate in a third party (one on 36?) only drain our power. That's a sure path to defeat and THESE guys who went the 3rd party rout will see that as "proof" that they were right -- when they were actually the CAUSE. I know some a gonna do it, but wer really do need to get these folks on the same page.
Quote from: Solar on July 25, 2014, 07:00:52 PM
Because historically, Conservatives always turn out for mid terms, while the kids turn out to back a Dim rockstar during Presidential elections.
And tell me what RINO did the GOP offer up to us in 2012, that failed miserably?
So tell me, what rockstar is the Dim party pushing this time around? Keep in mind, they're old enough to be grand parents to the kids they hope to excite.
Fact is, the Dim party is dead, not just down for the count, but dead. The Dim party as you know it today will never return, they can't run on the Marxists policies of failure, so what options do they have?
Run to the Right of RINO, or admit to being Marxists and hope for the best?
Not much room to bail themselves out this time.
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Quote from: carlb on July 26, 2014, 04:33:50 AM
Not really, people who decide to go it alone and squander their vote on a purist candidate in a third party (one on 36?) only drain our power. That's a sure path to defeat and THESE guys who went the 3rd party rout will see that as "proof" that they were right -- when they were actually the CAUSE. I know some a gonna do it, but wer really do need to get these folks on the same page.
To me, it is not about making a third party. It is everything to do with overtaking the RINO infested GOP. Do you have reading comprehension?
Quote from: taxed on July 26, 2014, 04:36:02 AM
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Che' is sooo yesterday.
Quote from: keyboarder on July 26, 2014, 04:59:31 AM
To me, it is not about making a third party. It is everything to do with overtaking the RINO infested GOP. Do you have reading comprehension?
What bothers me is not so much that people think a 3rd party might not be a good idea, it's that the group think here is so pervasive, nobody will even consider it! It's like trying to talk to a bunch of Democrats about abstinence only sex education!
And the funny thing is
I'm the one who gets called a "purist"! :lol: :lol: :lol:
-Darth
Quote from: Darth Fife on July 26, 2014, 08:06:09 AM
What bothers me is not so much that people think a 3rd party might not be a good idea, it's that the group think here is so pervasive, nobody will even consider it! It's like trying to talk to a bunch of Democrats about abstinence only sex education!
And the funny thing is I'm the one who gets called a "purist"! :lol: :lol: :lol:
-Darth
A third party threat, is akin to taking your ball and going home.
Did you really think the other kids would rather play with some pouty little prick that threatens to take his ball and break up the game?
Seriously, get real! You aren't being a purist, you're just being emotional.
Quote from: Darth Fife on July 26, 2014, 08:06:09 AM
What bothers me is not so much that people think a 3rd party might not be a good idea, it's that the group think here is so pervasive, nobody will even consider it! It's like trying to talk to a bunch of Democrats about abstinence only sex education!
And the funny thing is I'm the one who gets called a "purist"! :lol: :lol: :lol:
-Darth
You can't get conservatives to get involved in the RNC, but you'll get them involved in a third party?
Quote from: taxed on July 26, 2014, 08:32:13 AM
You can't get conservatives to get involved in the RNC, but you'll get them involved in a third party?
I don't think he actualizes the resolve of TEA to steal a party that's declared war on us.
Threatening a 3rd party has never been an option because that equates to retreat/surrender, so we're standing ground and fighting, and every tiny win, is a serious defeat for the socialists in both party's.
So in reality, our tiny victories, are slaughters against the enemy.
Quote from: keyboarder on July 26, 2014, 04:59:31 AM
To me, it is not about making a third party. It is everything to do with overtaking the RINO infested GOP. Do you have reading comprehension?
wow.
Yes I do. Unlike you, who took it personally, I wasn't addressing you as an individual but only using your post to make a greater point.
A person "with reading comprehension" would have understood that and not gone defensive.
Quote from: carlb on July 26, 2014, 11:55:39 AM
wow.
Yes I do. Unlike you, who took it personally, I wasn't addressing you as an individual but only using your post to make a greater point.
A person "with reading comprehension" would have understood that and not gone defensive.
And a person with class would have simply noted the misunderstanding and not respond with an insult.
Quote from: Solar on July 26, 2014, 08:40:36 AM
I don't think he actualizes the resolve of TEA to steal a party that's declared war on us.
Threatening a 3rd party has never been an option because that equates to retreat/surrender, so we're standing ground and fighting, and every tiny win, is a serious defeat for the socialists in both party's.
So in reality, our tiny victories, are slaughters against the enemy.
He's thinking emotionally. He's just pissed off and not using his cute little brain.
Quote from: taxed on July 26, 2014, 12:56:11 PM
He's thinking emotionally. He's just pissed off and not using his cute little brain.
Yep, all emotion generated by anger. Granted, I do get it, I used to think the same way, that is, until TEA kicked the dog shit out of the RINO it's first year of creation.
The idea of a 3rd party is gone, more than 90% of the people think TEA has the best chance of cleaning both Houses.
Quote from: Solar on July 26, 2014, 01:08:40 PM
Yep, all emotion generated by anger. Granted, I do get it, I used to think the same way, that is, until TEA kicked the dog shit out of the RINO it's first year of creation.
The idea of a 3rd party is gone, more than 90% of the people think TEA has the best chance of cleaning both Houses.
Yeah, a 3rd party makes no sense. The Republican Party is our party. We fell asleep and let it stink up, but now it's time for some house cleaning.
Quote from: Solar on July 26, 2014, 12:54:04 PM
And a person with class would have simply noted the misunderstanding and not respond with an insult.
I've forgiven the insult. She didn't "comprehend" my point. My mistake.
Quote from: carlb on July 26, 2014, 02:04:01 PM
I've forgiven the insult. She didn't "comprehend" my point. My mistake.
We all do it. Until you've been here awhile, it takes people sometime to understand where you're coming from.
As a noob, it might be good just to relax and learn where these people are rooted, most are pretty intelligent and solid Conservatives, while a few, well, the verdicts still out on them.