Too funny. :biggrin:
(CNN)A trio of Republican establishment favorites -- Jeb Bush, Scott Walker and Marco Rubio -- are all losing ground in the party's 2016 presidential field, a new Fox News poll shows.
Donald Trump, meanwhile, continues to dominate the race, earning 25% support nationally, while another outsider, retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson, is running second at 12%. Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas, known for locking horns with Republican congressional leaders, is third at 10%.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/16/politics/gop-poll-jeb-bush-scott-walker-marco-rubio-drop-2016/
I admire the Bush family.
Jeb has no business running. Mickey Mouse could beat him which I find scary (last two cluster whatever elections)
GOP, these elections are not a game like pay the ole guys back for their public service.
Quote from: darroll on August 28, 2015, 02:40:16 PM
I admire the Bush family.
Jeb has no business running. Mickey Mouse could beat him which I find scary (last two cluster whatever elections)
GOP, these elections are not a game like pay the ole guys back for their public service.
If anything, it's a referendum against the Establishment.
Quote from: Solar on August 28, 2015, 02:45:10 PM
If anything, it's a referendum against the Establishment.
And between them they account for 47% of the vote!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote from: redbeard on August 28, 2015, 02:56:05 PM
And between them they account for 47% of the vote!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
They couldn't generate 10% total between the three of them, let alone generate a fart. :lol:
So Carson and Cruz together barely match Trump. Thats disturbing, and Im beginning to get a little frustrated with DTs ability to maintain and build steam.
Quote from: Ulsterking on August 28, 2015, 06:22:44 PM
So Carson and Cruz together barely match Trump. Thats disturbing, and Im beginning to get a little frustrated with DTs ability to maintain and build steam.
Trump is stuck, he won't gain all that much more without more Dim support, while Cruz and Carson continue to rise in the polls.
Quote from: Solar on August 28, 2015, 06:31:16 PM
Trump is stuck, he won't gain all that much more without more Dim support, while Cruz and Carson continue to rise in the polls.
Too simple an analyst! One poll has 52% would vote for him if he was the nominee and 33% Wouldn't! It's a major change over the last month. Point is he still has room to grow from those numbers!
Quote from: Solar on August 28, 2015, 06:31:16 PM
Trump is stuck, he won't gain all that much more without more Dim support, while Cruz and Carson continue to rise in the polls.
Okay, its well documented that few non Trumpsters will move to his camp as a second choice, but even so, if Trump/Carson/Cruz all maintain you get a 50/25/25 split in the
end even if Carson/Cruz get everyone elses voters. Trump has to seriously deflate, or hes got this bag cinched, as it appears right now.
Quote from: Ulsterking on August 28, 2015, 08:03:13 PM
Okay, its well documented that few non Trumpsters will move to his camp as a second choice, but even so, if Trump/Carson/Cruz all maintain you get a 50/25/25 split in the
end even if Carson/Cruz get everyone elses voters. Trump has to seriously deflate, or hes got this bag cinched, as it appears right now.
Half or more of Trump's support comes from libs, whom of which won't be able to vote in the GOP primary unless they switch party affiliation.
But I'm not concerned, Cruz is playing it smart in backing Trump, so when Trump tops out and has nowhere to go, Cruz will continue to gain support, Carson won't even be able to catch up at that point.
He outed himself on Wednesday, by announcing the new taxpayer-funded stadium-deal for Milwaukee:
http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-08-14/scott-walker-s-misguided-milwaukee-bucks-stadium-deal
Up go taxes again... A privately-owned basketball-team isn't something a State Government should be 'investing' in. Walker's dooming himself, right before our eyes.
Quote from: kit saginaw on August 29, 2015, 06:01:30 PM
He outed himself on Wednesday, by announcing the new taxpayer-funded stadium-deal for Milwaukee:
http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-08-14/scott-walker-s-misguided-milwaukee-bucks-stadium-deal
Up go taxes again... A privately-owned basketball-team isn't something a State Government should be 'investing' in. Walker's dooming himself, right before our eyes.
But, but all states do that. :rolleyes:
Quote from: kit saginaw on August 29, 2015, 06:01:30 PM
He outed himself on Wednesday, by announcing the new taxpayer-funded stadium-deal for Milwaukee:
http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-08-14/scott-walker-s-misguided-milwaukee-bucks-stadium-deal
Up go taxes again... A privately-owned basketball-team isn't something a State Government should be 'investing' in. Walker's dooming himself, right before our eyes.
Thanks for posting this Kit.
I wonder if people are listening now?
I've always said, this forum is about the truth, even when it hurts one on our side of the isle, and we'll continue to expose the truth, good or bad.
I said Walker was not to be trusted, that he was no Conservative, and later stated he was a RINO and people got pissed.
Well, if the truth isn't what they want to hear, they know where the exit is.
As Conservatives, it's incumbent upon all of us to clean the trash out of politics, most importantly, the GOP.
For those still not convinced, here's a short list.
http://www.redstate.com/diary/freedomrepublican/2015/03/09/12-reasons-why-conservatives-should-reject-scott-walker/
Leave Walker be. He doesn't need any help torpedoing his own campaign.
Quote from: The Boo Man... on August 29, 2015, 07:16:26 PM
Leave Walker be. He doesn't need any help torpedoing his own campaign.
He was dead out the gate... Oh wait, he always has that same look.
Quote from: Solar on August 29, 2015, 07:20:08 PM
He was dead out the gate... Oh wait, he always has that same look.
Well he is sort of pasty. The sort of skin color seen on undertakers in low budget horror films.
CNN dictates establishment favorites? I like Walker. I have done some research on the divisions in Wisconsin. Reminds me of Washington State. We have very Conservative counties and very liberal ones. Tell me what's wrong with Walker? He certainly would be better than many of the candidates.
Quote from: Chosen Daughter on August 30, 2015, 11:14:37 AM
CNN dictates establishment favorites? I like Walker. I have done some research on the divisions in Wisconsin. Reminds me of Washington State. We have very Conservative counties and very liberal ones. Tell me what's wrong with Walker? He certainly would be better than many of the candidates.
For starters, read Reply #12.
Quote from: walkstall on August 29, 2015, 06:06:27 PM
But, but all states do that. :rolleyes:
Yes Walker is right all states do that. The taxpayers should have voted on it.
Quote from: Chosen Daughter on August 30, 2015, 12:08:31 PM
Yes Walker is right all states do that. The taxpayers should have voted on it.
And Cruz supports H-1b.
That's an immigration abuse. Maybe started as a good program but it is out of control and Cruz would have it be infinite visa's. Screw Americans
Quote from: Chosen Daughter on August 30, 2015, 12:11:59 PM
And Cruz supports H-1b.
That's an immigration abuse. Maybe started as a good program but it is out of control and Cruz would have it be infinite visa's. Screw Americans
H1B is the only way to control immigration. It requires a sponsor, proof you can self support and will not be in need of govt assistance.
The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 defined a nonimmigrant temporary worker2 under the original H-1 visa, as:
"an alien having a residence in a foreign country which he has no intention of abandoning (i) who is of distinguished merit and ability and who is coming temporarily to the United States to perform temporary services of an exceptional nature requiring such merit and ability."
IMO, this is the only way we should be allowing new immigration, skilled individuals with something to offer.
And yes, Cruz is right, we need a slight increase in H1b, while eliminating the open door policy.
Quote from: Solar on August 30, 2015, 12:18:31 PM
H1B is the only way to control immigration. It requires a sponsor, proof you can self support and will not be in need of govt assistance.
The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 defined a nonimmigrant temporary worker2 under the original H-1 visa, as:
"an alien having a residence in a foreign country which he has no intention of abandoning (i) who is of distinguished merit and ability and who is coming temporarily to the United States to perform temporary services of an exceptional nature requiring such merit and ability."
IMO, this is the only way we should be allowing new immigration, skilled individuals with something to offer.
And yes, Cruz is right, we need a slight increase in H1b, while eliminating the open door policy.
Like I said the original nature of the program is good. These exceptional nature people getting jobs are going to the same universities that Americans go to and graduate from. The reasons that they are selling these H1B's is because they say that they cannot find American's to fill them. That doesn't make sense. Higher education institutions (Universities) are receiving bookoo bucks from the government to educate Americans to not be considered for jobs. That is the argument. There are no Americans to fill these positions. There is nothing of exceptional nature about these jobs. Both Americans and foreigners attending the same universities, same classes, same degree.
Its so that some people can buy bigger yachts to polish.
WTF!! Now he has lost me! How can you equate our northern boarder to the southern boarder requiring a wall? it isn't just Mexicans crossing in mass from the southern boarder it is the entry point for all illegals from central and south America. I didn't realized that Canadian gang activity in our inter cities was such a problem that we need a wall!
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Scott Walker: Wall on Canadian Border Worth Reviewing
Republican presidential candidate Scott Walker says that building a wall along the country's norther border with Canada is a legitimate issue that merits further review.
Republican candidates have generally taken a get-tough approach on deterring illegal immigration, but they usually focus on the border with Mexico.
The Wisconsin governor was asked whether he wanted to build a wall on the northern border, too, during an interview Sunday on NBC's "Meet the Press."
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsmax-Tv/scott-walker-wall-on-canadian/2015/08/30/id/672643/#ixzz3kLAeDSfr
A lot of pot used to come from B.C.
Well I was curious about what may be the concerns and it appears they are legitimate. It appears that there is a Indian reservation where illegals are coming into the U.S. They have no legal way to control it and it is a way for terrorists to come.
Quote from: Chosen Daughter on August 30, 2015, 03:11:30 PM
Like I said the original nature of the program is good. These exceptional nature people getting jobs are going to the same universities that Americans go to and graduate from. The reasons that they are selling these H1B's is because they say that they cannot find American's to fill them. That doesn't make sense. Higher education institutions (Universities) are receiving bookoo bucks from the government to educate Americans to not be considered for jobs. That is the argument. There are no Americans to fill these positions. There is nothing of exceptional nature about these jobs. Both Americans and foreigners attending the same universities, same classes, same degree.
Its so that some people can buy bigger yachts to polish.
There's no doubt it's being abused with the help of our Govt, but we need to enforce the rule of law, stop letting people cut in line by jumping the border.
My point is, we need H1B as
the only way someone can enter, scrap all immigration, and enforce the laws original intent, that anyone wanting to enter the country prove they can self support.
Quote from: Chosen Daughter on August 30, 2015, 04:32:38 PM
Well I was curious about what may be the concerns and it appears they are legitimate. It appears that there is a Indian reservation where illegals are coming into the U.S. They have no legal way to control it and it is a way for terrorists to come.
Perhaps a fence around the reservation then!! :popcorn: :popcorn:
Quote from: redbeard on August 30, 2015, 04:37:49 PM
Perhaps a fence around the reservation then!! :popcorn: :popcorn:
Well I am not familiar with the area but here is an article about it. Just saying that it is a real issue. It isn't just about the cost of illegal immigration it is about terrorists crossing into the country also.
http://www.libertylobby.org/articles/2000/20000928cdnborder.html
I think everyone needs to look at whom the Media / Press is devoting most of their attention to. It isn't those that are lowest in the polls.
The Media / Press focuses on those that will generate controversy and readership - listener ship returns.
I believe our radically leftist Media / Press can easily reduce or damage Trump's lead "On Cue". It is fundamentally who the Media / Press anoints to receive favorable coverage and those that receive little to none.
I think the story line went over my head. CNN outs Walker as RINO????
Quote from: Cyborg on September 04, 2015, 09:18:59 PM
I think everyone needs to look at whom the Media / Press is devoting most of their attention to. It isn't those that are lowest in the polls.
The Media / Press focuses on those that will generate controversy and readership - listener ship returns.
I believe our radically leftist Media / Press can easily reduce or damage Trump's lead "On Cue". It is fundamentally who the Media / Press anoints to receive favorable coverage and those that receive little to none.
I think the story line went over my head. CNN outs Walker as RINO????
The problem is the media tried to damage Trump. Simply by using Trumps own words against him. It didn't work. Trump has been playing the media like a violin.
Quote from: Cyborg on September 04, 2015, 09:18:59 PM
I think everyone needs to look at whom the Media / Press is devoting most of their attention to. It isn't those that are lowest in the polls.
The Media / Press focuses on those that will generate controversy and readership - listener ship returns.
I believe our radically leftist Media / Press can easily reduce or damage Trump's lead "On Cue". It is fundamentally who the Media / Press anoints to receive favorable coverage and those that receive little to none.
Agree, he has yet to get anything even remotely close to the Palin treatment.
QuoteI think the story line went over my head. CNN outs Walker as RINO????
"A trio of Republican
establishment favorites -- Jeb Bush,
Scott Walker and Marco Rubio"
It was the first time the media admitted Walker was part of the Establishments plan for the WH.