Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread

[Solar]

Ok ... let's say another investigation into Uranium One begins.  In Grassley's infinite wisdom he wants a 'special investigation' started ... that's worked so well in the past right??  The DOJ is still so corrupt there's no way that anything is going to happen to Clinton/Obama -- Trump had is chance to fire both Rosenstein and Muller and he blew that chance.  Right now Mueller is protecting himself and his bosses by selecting someone to accuse from the Trump team, and the media will fully oblige by making this the media sensation of the decade. All the while allowing the DEMS to buy more time to bury evidence, lie and deny to the public and make Uranium One look like a Trump witch hunt against Clinton.  Come on here...this is what Clinton does best ... lie, deny and blame the other side for something she did. 

IMHO this is now a full blown fued as to which side is going to prevail in this chess match ... looks like Trump is running out of moves.

Here's how I see it. Trump was forced into accepting this fake investigation, if at any time along the way he was to interfere or "Fire" someone, the left would use it as proof Trump is hiding something. Are you getting a mental image yet?
So he left the left follow through, knowing all the time they won't make a single connection, and in the end being forced to concede, Trump had zero connection to Russians, at the same time the left is facing the fact it was all a lie, an investigation is taking place on Clinton and the Dim circus under the banner of "Uranium One".

So like Sun Tzu explains, never interfere with your enemy when he is committing suicide.

[Ms.Independence]

Very good point!
I think you just layed out the Democrats ace-up-the-sleeve.   

Question remains, if the Democrats threaten Trump with nailing his kids - would Trump call their bluff and ignore it, or cave, back off & become a lame-duck POTUS?

Here's my take on that question.  I believe Don Jr. is innocent and Trump knows it and will call their bluff.  I believe Trump found out that his son-in-law is corrupt, two-face and can't be trusted; and will see this as being a disloyal family member; Trump's not going to back off and become a lame-duck POTUS.  Daddy's princess will have to deal with it. Jared and Ivanka will be asked to leave the West Wing, which isn't going to bother a whole lot of people anyways.

[Ms.Independence]

Here's how I see it. Trump was forced into accepting this fake investigation, if at any time along the way he was to interfere or "Fire" someone, the left would use it as proof Trump is hiding something. Are you getting a mental image yet?
So he left the left follow through, knowing all the time they won't make a single connection, and in the end being forced to concede, Trump had zero connection to Russians, at the same time the left is facing the fact it was all a lie, an investigation is taking place on Clinton and the Dim circus under the banner of "Uranium One".

So like Sun Tzu explains, never interfere with your enemy when he is committing suicide.

Sure I follow your theory and I agree up to the point of the investigation of Clinton and the Dim circus ... the investigation IMHO will go nowhere because those investigating are part of that corruption.

[walkstall]

Take this as you will:

LS is Larry Earl Schweikart (born April 21, 1951 in Mesa, Arizona) an American historian and professor of history at the University of Dayton.

He is the author of more than a dozen scholarly and popular fiction books; his best known popular book is A Patriot's History of the United States , coauthored with Michael Allen.

According to professors Guy Burton and Ted Goertzel, "Schweikart and Allen are both history professors with distinguished publication records."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Schweikart

IF LS is Larry Earl Schweikart and he said this then you should have not problem with showing his quote.

[Ms.Independence]

Already being buried and as Clinton herself claimed "debunked".

The Hillary Clinton Russia Uranium One Conspiracy Theory Doesn't Make Any Sense

.............Conservative media outlets have been circulating theories about the deal for years, and Donald Trump even brought it up while campaigning for the presidency. Trump claimed that Clinton "approved the transfer of 20 percent of America's uranium holdings to Russia, while nine investors in the deal funneled $145 million to the Clinton Foundation."

The Hill article sent such coverage into overdrive. Lou Dobbs ran a segment on his Fox Business show under the banner "Russia Collusion" and featuring a photo of Clinton the day the story was published. Trump hyped the theory again several times in the past week, calling the deal a "modern-day Watergate" and the "real Russia story."

The guilt by association theory centers on Clinton's role on the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS). The committee reviews deals that would transfer to foreign ownership companies that might be sensitive to national security.

According to the conspiracy theory, Clinton received money from several people affiliated with the uranium mine deal, and then pushed the CFIUS to approve it in return.

The problem is, that's not how CFIUS works. Clinton's vote would have been only one of nine, as the reviews are run by the Treasury Department and other Cabinet secretaries get to weigh in.

"The secretary of state is one, and frankly not usually a very powerful, member of the committee," said Steve Grundman, a fellow at the Atlantic Council who dealt with CFIUS reviews while serving in the Pentagon in the 1990s. "You have to remember with CFIUS, the first letter stands for the committee."

Also, Cabinet secretaries almost never deal with the committee themselves, instead delegating to underlings. For Clinton, that delegate was the assistant secretary of state for economic and business affairs, Jose Fernandez.

"Secretary Clinton never intervened with me on any CFIUS matter," Fernandez told Time in 2015. Two former State Department officials who served under Clinton told Newsweek that Clinton would have been notified of a CFIUS decision only if there were disagreement among members of the committee, which would push a final decision to the president. The CFIUS decision on the Uranium One deal, however, was unanimous—all nine representatives agreed to approve it............

According to the experts, even if Clinton had somehow managed to tilt the CFIUS decision in favor of Russian buyers, it wouldn't matter: The mine isn't very important.

The Russian-owned company does not have a license to export the uranium, and the actual mining process is not sensitive at all.

"It's just a mine," Lewis said. "There's no technology that's special. There's no shortage of uranium around the world."

Also, the deal took place during a period when the U.S. was trying to rebuild economic ties to Russia after Clinton and President Barack Obama initiated a "reset" with that country. The U.S. was buying helicopters from Russia for Afghanistan's army, as well as rockets for U.S. satellite programs. It was a time before Russia had invaded Ukraine and meddled in the U.S. election........

http://www.newsweek.com/hillary-clinton-uranium-conspiracy-theory-distraction-trump-russia-694525

[walkstall]

It's him.

I don't 'normally' like to post links to other forums but since you insist .. scroll down the page, (at link) you'll find it.


He has been a member of FR for almost 18 years.

So what your saying it is hear say from some other board.  Not a quote from  Larry Earl Schweikart himself.   

[Solar]

It's him.

I don't 'normally' like to post links to other forums but since you insist ..

Then Don't!!!
If you can't find the information your own, what makes you think another forum like ours did?
Either source your claims from original sources, or don't post it!

[Hoofer]

Sure I follow your theory and I agree up to the point of the investigation of Clinton and the Dim circus ... the investigation IMHO will go nowhere because those investigating are part of that corruption.

Tend to agree...  based on the Trey Gowdy media circuses, which yielded .... crickets.

[Hoofer]

Then Don't!!!
If you can't find the information your own, what makes you think another forum like ours did?
Either source your claims from original sources, or don't post it!

Yeah, an opinion of an opinion, of another opinion of an opinion, of an opinion of a source...  makes good material for humor.
I don't mind commenting on "news quotes" (the source) and occasionally "news reporters" to show BIAS - but, are we really *wise* to become an "Info-Boars" style forum?

Simply put, once the reputation is known, it's pretty darn hard to change it.   That 12am to 5am radio talk show, which covers at least 50% of the airwaves with the most outlandish, freakish, occultic, whacko, alien stuff... does *anyone* take them SERIOUSLY?
Or "Before-It's-News-it-was-dropped" style site - if that stuff was printed, I'd be afraid to line a bird cage with it.

Solar & Walks are trying to increase your credibility as a poster, get it from the source, you'll be more believable.


Speaking of credibility - CNN has been *almost* delivering the story... except, their reporters are good-ole-boys with Fusion GPS!
http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/28/cnns-undisclosed-ties-to-fusion-gps/

CNN's reporting on the Trump-Russia dossier has left out at least one crucial fact: the close ties between the network and the opposition research firm at the center of the dossier controversy.

CNN's reporting on the dossier, led by justice correspondent Evan Perez, has been favorable to the firm, Fusion GPS, and hyped the dossier's credibility. Left out of Perez's reporting, which has relied largely on unnamed sources, is his personal closeness to Fusion GPS' operatives. Fusion has repeatedly been described in Senate testimonies as a smear-for-hire operation that manufactures misleading or false media narratives for its clients.

Glenn Simpson, the Fusion co-founder most often associated with the dossier, is used to working on stories with Perez. As reporters at The Wall Street Journal, Perez and Simpson regularly co-authored stories on national security.

Another Fusion founder, Tom Catan, worked as a reporter for the Journal at the same time as Perez and Simpson. The third Fusion co-founder, Peter Fritsch, worked above Perez and Simpson as the senior national security editor.

Simpson and Fritsch left the WSJ in 2011 to launch Fusion. Perez jumped from the paper to CNN in 2013. Another longtime Journal reporter, Neil King, left the paper to join Fusion in December 2016.

Well, it might help knowing the source to get the story, but... if you want to remain fishing buddies, eh.. you might ignore a Jack Ass's steaming pile, behind him!

[Solar]

Yeah, an opinion of an opinion, of another opinion of an opinion, of an opinion of a source...  makes good material for humor.
I don't mind commenting on "news quotes" (the source) and occasionally "news reporters" to show BIAS - but, are we really *wise* to become an "Info-Boars" style forum?

Simply put, once the reputation is known, it's pretty darn hard to change it.   That 12am to 5am radio talk show, which covers at least 50% of the airwaves with the most outlandish, freakish, occultic, whacko, alien stuff... does *anyone* take them SERIOUSLY?
Or "Before-It's-News-it-was-dropped" style site - if that stuff was printed, I'd be afraid to line a bird cage with it.

Solar & Walks are trying to increase your credibility as a poster, get it from the source, you'll be more believable.


Speaking of credibility - CNN has been *almost* delivering the story... except, their reporters are good-ole-boys with Fusion GPS!
http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/28/cnns-undisclosed-ties-to-fusion-gps/
Well, it might help knowing the source to get the story, but... if you want to remain fishing buddies, eh.. you might ignore a Jack Ass's steaming pile, behind him!

It tends to go beyond frustrating when for 7 years, it has been policy to not post innuendo or rumor, and still people insist upon doping it baffles my mind.
What part of "Fact-Based Forum" do people not freakin get?

[Solar]

Sure I follow your theory and I agree up to the point of the investigation of Clinton and the Dim circus ... the investigation IMHO will go nowhere because those investigating are part of that corruption.

For Now!
What part of"Patience" did you not get?
Let this BS play out and produce nothing substantial, and that's when "Special Counsel" is appointed, beyond the reach of political agenda.
They have no choice, the only other option is to throw out the Republic and end the country.

Do you seriously think that's going to happen?

[Solar]

Trump calls for investigation into Clinton ties to dossier

President Trump on Sunday lashed out in a series of tweets over the ongoing investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election and what he termed a "lack of investigation" into Hillary Clinton.

"Never seen such Republican ANGER & UNITY as I have concerning the lack of investigation on Clinton made Fake Dossier," Trump tweeted.

"Instead they look at phony Trump/Russia 'collusion,' which doesn't exist. The Dems are using this terrible (and bad for our country) Witch Hunt for evil politics, but the R's are now fighting back like never before. There is so much GUILT by Democrats/Clinton, and now the facts are pouring out. DO SOMETHING!" Trump tweeted.

The president's outrage on Sunday was apparently prompted by a Washington Post report earlier this week that a lawyer working for Clinton's campaign and the Democratic National Committee helped fund an unverified dossier that contains allegations about Trump and his ties to Russia as well as more salacious charges.

Trump claimed the dossier cost $12 million which is apparently a reference to the amount the law firm Perkins Coie was paid to represent the Clinton campaign and the DNC during the 2016 campaign.  Perkins Coie retained the firm Fusion GPS to conduct research on Trump, but the law firm did a variety of other work for Clinton and the DNC.

Trump also listed an Obama-era Uranium One deal with Russia, the loss of some of Clinton's emails during her tenure as secretary of State, and "the Comey fix," apparently meaning FBI Director James Comey's decision to clear Clinton of charges during the election, as sources of outrage.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/357700-trump-calls-for-investigation-into-clinton-russia-ties

[walkstall]

It tends to go beyond frustrating when for 7 years, it has been policy to not post innuendo or rumor, and still people insist upon doping it baffles my mind.
What part of "Fact-Based Forum" do people not freakin get?

My point was we are not like other board.  We work hard to have people come for the truth.  In doing so it helps keep out the trolls.  Now I have been posting on boards for over 25+ years.  I had my ass handed to more then once in my younger years of posting for not being able to back up what I posted.   25 years of posting does not make me right. 

[Solar]

My point was we are not like other board.  We work hard to have people come for the truth.  In doing so it helps keep out the trolls.  Now I have been posting on boards for over 25+ years.  I had my ass handed to more then once in my younger years of posting for not being able to back up what I posted.   25 years of posting does not make me right.

It's what separates Conservatives from libs, knowing what you post can be challenged.
It's that critical thinking equation that gives us the edge over the left, they function on innuendo and feelings, while we base our arguments in fact.
This really pisses off the left big time, it makes debating us a near impossibility.

[Solar]

Enough of the 'source' crap!

I gave the source of the comment but I'm guessing that you (and others) are upset that LS didn't 'source' HIS source?

You don't expect him to give out that info do you!

As for 'another board' finding info that 'other boards' can't or don't find ... with  half a million users (a million a while back) and a number of them being within government, courts, talk shows (radio and tv) there is often insider news broken there!

Not all news items are broken by known people on mainstream news sites!

Some are actually broken on forums!

FR became known to many when it  got involved in getting Bill Clinton impeached and the Bush/Florida recount fiasco.

People like Jim Robinson, Matt Drudge, Bob Barr, Gary Aldrich, Alan Keyes, Larry Klayman, Lucianne Goldberg, Billy Dale many others spoke at, organized and attended Free Republic's nationally televised rally supporting Clinton's impeachment on October 31, 1998.



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Below is the post that started this whole nasty .. "Show the source or Don't show another board's source!"

Which I did.

Again, comprehension should have come into play before 'this' was posted!


Not only did I provide a screenshot of Larry's comment .. I gave the link to his posting history and a way to contact the man by giving the link to his http://www.rockinthewall.com page!

Email the guy!
He always gets back to you IF you're able to pen a decent letter!

Either some of you don't bother to actually read and comprehend the questions and the given answers or .. some of you are just becoming ruder as you age!

I really don't care what you think you were going after, we Do Not source other forums, because they are forums, just like other forums don't source us, because, like them, we are not the original source for news.