Clinton/Comey Traitor Thread

[taxed]

Sounds like it was just general op research on all the GOP candidates...

[Ms.Independence]

It is being reported that Mueller is facing pressure to resign.  Seems to me that they should be pressuring Rosenstein as well ... he is part of the problem.  Sessions IMHO should go as well.

Let's bring in some new people that DO NOT have a connection to the Bush, Clinton or Obama administration. That's not going to be an easy task, and for the love of God, get rid of all the Obama holdovers!

[Cryptic Bert]

There are more Russian connections to the democrats than to Trump. After a year the left is left with borscht on their faces.

[walkstall]

First charges filed in Mueller investigation


http://myfox8.com/2017/10/27/first-charges-filed-in-mueller-investigation/

[walkstall]

Probably Manafort.

Nothing to do with the Trump Russian investigation.

JMHO

Mueller has to give them something.  As my understand more and more are asking him to close up head hunting.

[Hoofer]

Pressure is mounting on Robert Mueller to deliver heads of the Trump administration - or Donald Trump himself, ASAP.
It's a no-brainer.   Mueller and Rod Rosenstein are both coming closer to being investigated for their connections to the Clinton Foundation, Bill's winfall speaking fee in Russia, and of course, that treasonous Uranium One deal that netted Putin 20% of our Uranium.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/27/mueller-facing-new-republican-pressure-to-resign-in-russia-probe.html

Hill investigators also are looking into a Russian firm's uranium deal that was approved by the Obama administration in 2010 despite reports that the FBI – then led by Mueller – had evidence of bribery involving a subsidiary of that firm.

Critics question whether Mueller's own ties to the bureau as well as fired FBI director James Comey now render him compromised as he investigates allegations of Russian meddling and collusion with Trump officials in the 2016 race.

"The federal code could not be clearer – Mueller is compromised by his apparent conflict of interest in being close with James Comey," Rep. Trent Franks, R-Ariz., who first called for Mueller to step down over the summer, said in a statement to Fox News on Friday. "The appearance of a conflict is enough to put Mueller in violation of the code. ... All of the revelations in recent weeks make the case stronger."

Outgoing New Jersey GOP Gov. Chris Christie, a former federal prosecutor and Trump ally, also suggested Friday that Mueller consider stepping aside.

Oh, I had to leave that last zinger in there, Crispie Creme Christie - well, hells-bells, if that doesn't ruin the GOP investigation, toss in a camera shy blimp-of-a-politician... sheeze!  Bad call, FOX!

When you hear "Watergate" thrown out as a comparison, remember it was the cover-up of a bad crime, a break in and rifling thru records - oh how horrible!!!   The MSM really inflated that one.
This is a wee-bit bigger...  Approving the sale of 20% of USA's Uranium to a hostile foreign government, curiously considing with a half-million-dollar speaking fee to the husband of a government employee, allegations of bribery by a hostile government agent, payment records a little murky...   Well, well, well.... what's going on here?  Oh, don't forget, how Robert Mueller landed his cushy job, his buddy, James Comey leaked and squirmed and begged the MSM to run off Jeff Sessions (still scratching my head on that one), and his buddy Rod Rosenstein should take over the fake Russian collusion investigation.  Oh, yeah, Sessions did say Rosenstein was impartial enough to investigate HIMSELF.   We have the script for a new TV series, the Keystone Kops, of F-Troop, starring Jeff Sessions.

One word summarizes Uranium One - Treasonous!  Cancel their passports immediately, and put them under 24hr watch... as a minimum!

Then there's Fusion GPS (..? Global Payment System?)...  this reminds me of that shell game, guess which one has the pea under it!
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/10/27/kimberley-strassel-fusion-gps-bombshells-have-just-begun-to-drop.html

The answers are in Fusion's bank records. Fusion has doggedly refused to divulge the names of its clients for months now, despite extraordinary pressure. So why did the firm suddenly insist that middleman law firm Perkins Coie release Fusion from confidentiality agreements, and spill the beans on who hired it?

Because there's something Fusion cares about keeping secret even more than the Clinton-DNC news—and that something is in those bank records. The release of the client names was a last-ditch effort to appease the House Intelligence Committee, which issued subpoenas to Fusion's bank and was close to obtaining records until Fusion filed suit last week. The release was also likely aimed at currying favor with the court, given Fusion's otherwise weak legal case.

Typical in Democratic fashion, when you feel the heat coming, deflect it and turn on a flame-thrower of your own!
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/first-charges-issued-from-robert-muellers-investigation-report/article/2638863

Mueller's team is also investigating former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort regarding foreign lobbying, and former national security adviser Mike Flynn, who provided disingenuous statements about his communications with Russian officials.

Subpoenas for documents and testimonies in the probe have been issued by the Mueller team, including from contacts of Manafort.

Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, who is overseeing Mueller's probe, should have been informed of any charges prior to being presented to the grand jury for approval, via rules dictating special counsel investigations.

Hmmm.... lemme see, here... Jaywalking, Swearing in public, Disrespecting Queen Hillary, Parking Ticket, Library Book past due, littering a cigarette butt, Automobile Idling past 5 minutes... Altogether, that adds up to 3 years in prison, hard labor reading Chelsea's books to inmates.

Seriously now, you know damn well, they've found *something* minor, and when it's all spread out, the MSM will turn this pimple of lawbreaking into a 1st class Felony - or threaten "whoever" until they spill the "manufactured beans" on another Trump cabinet member.
You simply can't hire every Leftist in DC and come up empty-handed!   Ask yourself, "Was/Is the Mueller team READY to deliver, or being forced to deliver to keep this fiasco going a little longer?" - Democrat operatives bringing the heat, "Come on man!!!  Get us OFF the headlines!!!   We can't keep pumping up this Montana Whitefish Electrical thing - that's not a scandal, give us something - PLEASE!!!"

But the Wall Street Journal editorial board cited the dossier development in calling for Mueller's resignation on Thursday, saying the "troubling question is whether the FBI played a role" in aiding a "Russian disinformation campaign."

"Two pertinent questions: Did the dossier trigger the FBI probe of the Trump campaign, and did Mr. Comey or his agents use it as evidence to seek wiretapping approval from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court of Trump campaign aides?" the editorial board wrote, before turning to Mueller's role:

"The Fusion news means the FBI's role in Russia's election interference must now be investigated—even as the FBI and Justice insist that Mr. Mueller's probe prevents them from cooperating with Congressional investigators. Mr. Mueller is a former FBI director, and for years he worked closely with Mr. Comey. It is no slur against Mr. Mueller's integrity to say that he lacks the critical distance to conduct a credible probe of the bureau he ran for a dozen years. He could best serve the country by resigning to prevent further political turmoil over that conflict of interest."

Another potential issue is Mueller's supervision of a bribery probe involving a subsidiary of Russia's Rosatom, which eventually got approval from the U.S. to buy a Canadian mining company that controlled a swath of American uranium reserves. At the time of the probe, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, who appointed Mueller as special counsel, was a U.S. attorney and Mueller was FBI director. Republicans want to know how that deal was approved despite the evidence gathered in the bribery probe.

That last quote would have SUNK a GOP investigation.  No way in hell would the Democrats allow anything close to that, to continue.
But, leave it to the RINOs, those glittering lights of ignorance - who probably wished in secret, "How'd I miss out on that Uranium ONE deal...?"  Here we go, snatching DEFEAT from the jaws of Victory!

Other Republicans have sought to protect Mueller from interference.

There are currently two pieces of legislation in the Senate, with bipartisan sponsorship, that would ensure a judicial check on the executive branch's ability to remove a special counsel. Republican Sens. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., and Thom Tillis, R-N.C., are behind the bills, along with Democratic senators.

It's face-plant time, again.  Trump is being betrayed by the establishment, again...  Graham & Tillis may as well nominate Hillary for Sainthood.
Mueller will have all-the-time-in-the-world to deliver the goods and SAVE the Democratic chances for 2020 elections.  Hillary might win this time.

[Hoofer]

When your imagination is so limited, your best shot at the GOP is retelling your own corruption...

Sooner or later, you forget someone might connect the dots and find you standing there, guilty.
When this Trump / Russian collusion story surfaced, did ANYONE not think, "Wait a sec., they ought to be looking at the Clintons!"

[Ms.Independence]

Indeed.  Mueller has to deliver someone in order to save his own neck and to take the focus and bury Uranium One for good.  So (and this is purely my theory)... in order to save his own neck and make it impossible for Trump to fire him so he can continue to insulate himself, Rosenstein, Clinton and OBama; who would he indict?  My hunch is either Don Jr. or Kushner!  The indictment will turn into a media frenzy and the process will drag out for months if not at least until the 2018 elections.  If a member of Trump's own family is indicted it will make it next to impossible for Trump to fire Mueller, the investigation into Uranium One will be completely buried OR the story will now come out accusing Trump of being on a witch hunt for retaliation to his son or son-in-law being indicted.

[Solar]

Pressure is mounting on Robert Mueller to deliver heads of the Trump administration - or Donald Trump himself, ASAP.
It's a no-brainer.   Mueller and Rod Rosenstein are both coming closer to being investigated for their connections to the Clinton Foundation, Bill's winfall speaking fee in Russia, and of course, that treasonous Uranium One deal that netted Putin 20% of our Uranium.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/27/mueller-facing-new-republican-pressure-to-resign-in-russia-probe.html  Oh, I had to leave that last zinger in there, Crispie Creme Christie - well, hells-bells, if that doesn't ruin the GOP investigation, toss in a camera shy blimp-of-a-politician... sheeze!  Bad call, FOX!

When you hear "Watergate" thrown out as a comparison, remember it was the cover-up of a bad crime, a break in and rifling thru records - oh how horrible!!!   The MSM really inflated that one.
This is a wee-bit bigger...  Approving the sale of 20% of USA's Uranium to a hostile foreign government, curiously considing with a half-million-dollar speaking fee to the husband of a government employee, allegations of bribery by a hostile government agent, payment records a little murky...   Well, well, well.... what's going on here?  Oh, don't forget, how Robert Mueller landed his cushy job, his buddy, James Comey leaked and squirmed and begged the MSM to run off Jeff Sessions (still scratching my head on that one), and his buddy Rod Rosenstein should take over the fake Russian collusion investigation.  Oh, yeah, Sessions did say Rosenstein was impartial enough to investigate HIMSELF.   We have the script for a new TV series, the Keystone Kops, of F-Troop, starring Jeff Sessions.

One word summarizes Uranium One - Treasonous!  Cancel their passports immediately, and put them under 24hr watch... as a minimum!

Then there's Fusion GPS (..? Global Payment System?)...  this reminds me of that shell game, guess which one has the pea under it!
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/10/27/kimberley-strassel-fusion-gps-bombshells-have-just-begun-to-drop.html
Typical in Democratic fashion, when you feel the heat coming, deflect it and turn on a flame-thrower of your own!
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/first-charges-issued-from-robert-muellers-investigation-report/article/2638863Hmmm.... lemme see, here... Jaywalking, Swearing in public, Disrespecting Queen Hillary, Parking Ticket, Library Book past due, littering a cigarette butt, Automobile Idling past 5 minutes... Altogether, that adds up to 3 years in prison, hard labor reading Chelsea's books to inmates.

Seriously now, you know damn well, they've found *something* minor, and when it's all spread out, the MSM will turn this pimple of lawbreaking into a 1st class Felony - or threaten "whoever" until they spill the "manufactured beans" on another Trump cabinet member.
You simply can't hire every Leftist in DC and come up empty-handed!   Ask yourself, "Was/Is the Mueller team READY to deliver, or being forced to deliver to keep this fiasco going a little longer?" - Democrat operatives bringing the heat, "Come on man!!!  Get us OFF the headlines!!!   We can't keep pumping up this Montana Whitefish Electrical thing - that's not a scandal, give us something - PLEASE!!!"

That last quote would have SUNK a GOP investigation.  No way in hell would the Democrats allow anything close to that, to continue.
But, leave it to the RINOs, those glittering lights of ignorance - who probably wished in secret, "How'd I miss out on that Uranium ONE deal...?"  Here we go, snatching DEFEAT from the jaws of Victory!

It's face-plant time, again.  Trump is being betrayed by the establishment, again...  Graham & Tillis may as well nominate Hillary for Sainthood.
Mueller will have all-the-time-in-the-world to deliver the goods and SAVE the Democratic chances for 2020 elections.  Hillary might win this time.

Good job Hoofer.
Early on, I kept questioning why Trump was keeping these people on, but now that I've had time to observe Trump in action, it appears he is using the leftists to his own advantage.
First, he lets them finish their investigation on him, knowing quite well they won't find a damn thing, then turn around and fire the entire lot of them in public shame and humiliate them in the process, this gives him a type of armor for any future claims of corruption.

Now start a real investigation, one that focuses on the real perpetrators, and that includes the RINO Establishment, expose the truth and make a stink about it, force the media to talk openly about it.
Remember, Trump has the power of Tweets, something the left and Establishment claim unpresidential, low for such an office, juvenile etc.
I've never fallen for the leftist narrative, it's the only way Trump is going to get past the leftist filters, is when he bypasses the left/Establishment.

[Ms.Independence]

Good job Hoofer.
Early on, I kept questioning why Trump was keeping these people on, but now that I've had time to observe Trump in action, it appears he is using the leftists to his own advantage.
First, he lets them finish their investigation on him, knowing quite well they won't find a damn thing, then turn around and fire the entire lot of them in public shame and humiliate them in the process, this gives him a type of armor for any future claims of corruption.

Now start a real investigation, one that focuses on the real perpetrators, and that includes the RINO Establishment, expose the truth and make a stink about it, force the media to talk openly about it.
Remember, Trump has the power of Tweets, something the left and Establishment claim unpresidential, low for such an office, juvenile etc.
I've never fallen for the leftist narrative, it's the only way Trump is going to get past the leftist filters, is when he bypasses the left/Establishment.

Only problem is there won't be a "real investigation"; Mueller is going to make sure with this indictment that, that door is closed and the DEMS may very well win not only in 2018 but 2020 as well.  Trump made a huge mistake with not firing Rosenstein and Muller early on.  As for Sessions ... I still think he is going to be the cause of Trumps downfall.

[Hoofer]

Indeed.  Mueller has to deliver someone in order to save his own neck and to take the focus and bury Uranium One for good.  So (and this is purely my theory)... in order to save his own neck and make it impossible for Trump to fire him so he can continue to insulate himself, Rosenstein, Clinton and OBama; who would he indict?  My hunch is either Don Jr. or Kushner!  The indictment will turn into a media frenzy and the process will drag out for months if not at least until the 2018 elections.  If a member of Trump's own family is indicted it will make it next to impossible for Trump to fire Mueller, the investigation into Uranium One will be completely buried OR the story will now come out accusing Trump of being on a witch hunt for retaliation to his son or son-in-law being indicted.

Very good point!
I think you just layed out the Democrats ace-up-the-sleeve.   

Question remains, if the Democrats threaten Trump with nailing his kids - would Trump call their bluff and ignore it, or cave, back off & become a lame-duck POTUS?

[Solar]

Only problem is there won't be a "real investigation"; Mueller is going to make sure with this indictment that, that door is closed and the DEMS may very well win not only in 2018 but 2020 as well.  Trump made a huge mistake with not firing Rosenstein and Muller early on.  As for Sessions ... I still think he is going to be the cause of Trumps downfall.

In what reality does this work?
And how is he supposed to pull off this magic act? It's not up to Mueller where the investigation progresses, nor where it ends, especially after concluding Trump was not involved.
All that happens is Mueller's investigation ends and another begins and he'll have no say what happens after the fact, because he failed to produce evidence connecting Trump.
That's when a new investigation begins.

[Hoofer]

Good job Hoofer.
Early on, I kept questioning why Trump was keeping these people on, but now that I've had time to observe Trump in action, it appears he is using the leftists to his own advantage.
First, he lets them finish their investigation on him, knowing quite well they won't find a damn thing, then turn around and fire the entire lot of them in public shame and humiliate them in the process, this gives him a type of armor for any future claims of corruption.

Now start a real investigation, one that focuses on the real perpetrators, and that includes the RINO Establishment, expose the truth and make a stink about it, force the media to talk openly about it.
Remember, Trump has the power of Tweets, something the left and Establishment claim unpresidential, low for such an office, juvenile etc.
I've never fallen for the leftist narrative, it's the only way Trump is going to get past the leftist filters, is when he bypasses the left/Establishment.

(thanks, you're pretty darn good at it too!)

Wow...  If Trump planned it this way... naaa, it would have been Bannon, IMO.  I wouldn't want to play Chess with these guys, if they plan that far ahead!   Which further convinces me, Jeff Sessions will exit.   Doesn't matter how great the guy is as a Attorney General, this *still* looks like a major blunder to appoint Rod Rosenstein Deputy Attorney General, just a question of TIMING... when, but not why.

So... what you're postulating, Trump, knowning he couldn't count on the GOPe to help him, laid an enormous net, taking Sessions as "bait" and guess who walks into it, 2 of the players who would connect all the dots.  ...and, as a bonus, a few more get sucked in from the edges.  The bottom line, if it'd work, follow-the-money-trail and along the way, pick off the other players until you find the Clintons at the end of the Rainbow, sitting on a pot of Russian Rubles.  ...er, was Trump playing the Dems *all* these years???  Staying a Dem insider, donating & keeping them in good graces ... for this?

Ever wonder why Hillary Clinton is so PISSED she LOST?  Why she is PERSISTING and not going away?  Why the Democrats can't get her to LEAVE?   Just follow the money... I got a feeling, it'll connect more than just non-elected establishment politicians & lawyers, but eventually lead to high ranking Democrats, including Obama.

Could Hillary have BLACKMAIL material to keep Schumer, Pelosi, Obama... "mum"?  Remember, Hillary and the Dems *expected* to win the White House.  It would have kept all these tracks & corruption covered forever.  In contend, when the first deeply entwined insider cracks and cuts a deal to save themselves ... it's gonna be big, bad & juicy.

[Solar]

  (thanks, you're pretty darn good at it too!)

Wow...  If Trump planned it this way... naaa, it would have been Bannon, IMO.  I wouldn't want to play Chess with these guys, if they plan that far ahead!   Which further convinces me, Jeff Sessions will exit.   Doesn't matter how great the guy is as a Attorney General, this *still* looks like a major blunder to appoint Rod Rosenstein Deputy Attorney General, just a question of TIMING... when, but not why.

So... what you're postulating, Trump, knowning he couldn't count on the GOPe to help him, laid an enormous net, taking Sessions as "bait" and guess who walks into it, 2 of the players who would connect all the dots.  ...and, as a bonus, a few more get sucked in from the edges.  The bottom line, if it'd work, follow-the-money-trail and along the way, pick off the other players until you find the Clintons at the end of the Rainbow, sitting on a pot of Russian Rubles.  ...er, was Trump playing the Dems *all* these years???  Staying a Dem insider, donating & keeping them in good graces ... for this?

Ever wonder why Hillary Clinton is so PISSED she LOST?  Why she is PERSISTING and not going away?  Why the Democrats can't get her to LEAVE?   Just follow the money... I got a feeling, it'll connect more than just non-elected establishment politicians & lawyers, but eventually lead to high ranking Democrats, including Obama.

Could Hillary have BLACKMAIL material to keep Schumer, Pelosi, Obama... "mum"?  Remember, Hillary and the Dems *expected* to win the White House.  It would have kept all these tracks & corruption covered forever.  In contend, when the first deeply entwined insider cracks and cuts a deal to save themselves ... it's gonna be big, bad & juicy.

Something like that. Remember, Trump knew full well this was all a lie, and an investigation would not only hit a dead end, but expose a trail to follow when a new special counsel is appointed.

A special counsel investigation would possibly take about nine months to complete, and depending on just when an investigation begins could mean the end of leftist careers in both party's as Midterms edge closer.
Trump is the one in charge now, not the left and given the time elapsed, Trump will have appointed new blood to his Cabinet and Administration.

[Ms.Independence]

In what reality does this work?
And how is he supposed to pull off this magic act? It's not up to Mueller where the investigation progresses, nor where it ends, especially after concluding Trump was not involved.
All that happens is Mueller's investigation ends and another begins and he'll have no say what happens after the fact, because he failed to produce evidence connecting Trump.
That's when a new investigation begins.

Ok ... let's say another investigation into Uranium One begins.  In Grassley's infinite wisdom he wants a 'special investigation' started ... that's worked so well in the past right??  The DOJ is still so corrupt there's no way that anything is going to happen to Clinton/Obama -- Trump had is chance to fire both Rosenstein and Muller and he blew that chance.  Right now Mueller is protecting himself and his bosses by selecting someone to accuse from the Trump team, and the media will fully oblige by making this the media sensation of the decade. All the while allowing the DEMS to buy more time to bury evidence, lie and deny to the public and make Uranium One look like a Trump witch hunt against Clinton.  Come on here...this is what Clinton does best ... lie, deny and blame the other side for something she did. 

IMHO this is now a full blown fued as to which side is going to prevail in this chess match ... looks like Trump is running out of moves.