Chip Roy vs Elise Stefanik

Started by TheJohnDie, May 14, 2021, 04:00:16 AM

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TheJohnDie

tbh, I don't understand why Elise Stafnik is such a "great" choice to replace Liz Cheney? Her voting records ain't exactly the best. Chip Roy has said he's interested in the position, ain't he a better choice?



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Quote from: TheJohnDie on May 14, 2021, 04:00:16 AMtbh, I don't understand why Elise Stafnik is such a "great" choice to replace Liz Cheney? Her voting records ain't exactly the best. Chip Roy has said he's interested in the position, ain't he a better choice?


Lets you know there are still too many rinos in congress. Personally, I do not see any difference between Stafnik, Cheney, or Pelosi.

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It's pure politics. Trump made a deal at some point and that included supporting this RINO, a grade F quality RINO.
Yep, Roy is better by far and still has a chance at beating her, in spite of Trump's backing.
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By his voting record, YES!  Can he form a positive, loyal, coalition of membership to pull the party together and advance a Constitutional, Conservative Agenda?  Jeff Sessions looked "OK" too, and what a disappointment he turned out to be!

This really BUGGS me - we get a "majority" in one or both houses, and the RINOs seem to be the ones with the agenda, we see no movement, little legislative progress (Trump gets blamed for not doing more...?). Just little flashes of lightning, Trey Gowdy rants, Miss Lindsey Graham's "Just wait till you see what happens next!"  Once upon a time, decades ago, even Ohio GOP newcomer, John Boehner sounded great.

Chip Roy looks OK on paper, but as the LEADER...?  crickets... so far.  How has he distinguished himself, notable bills introduced, support for his legislation, gathered the loyal opposition to Dem bills - gee, that'd be all over the news, right?  "Chip Roy, the biggest thorn in the side of the Dems, is at it again, with his merry band of 'Hell, NO!' GOP..."  Is he able to form a smidgeon of resistance to the DEMs..., just is he Jeff Sessions 2.0?
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Solar

Quote from: Hoofer on May 14, 2021, 04:29:00 AMBy his voting record, YES!  Can he form a positive, loyal, coalition of membership to pull the party together and advance a Constitutional, Conservative Agenda?  Jeff Sessions looked "OK" too, and what a disappointment he turned out to be!

This really BUGGS me - we get a "majority" in one or both houses, and the RINOs seem to be the ones with the agenda, we see no movement, little legislative progress (Trump gets blamed for not doing more...?). Just little flashes of lightning, Trey Gowdy rants, Miss Lindsey Graham's "Just wait till you see what happens next!"  Once upon a time, decades ago, even Ohio GOP newcomer, John Boehner sounded great.

Chip Roy looks OK on paper, but as the LEADER...?  crickets... so far.  How has he distinguished himself, notable bills introduced, support for his legislation, gathered the loyal opposition to Dem bills - gee, that'd be all over the news, right?  "Chip Roy, the biggest thorn in the side of the Dems, is at it again, with his merry band of 'Hell, NO!' GOP..."  Is he able to form a smidgeon of resistance to the DEMs..., just is he Jeff Sessions 2.0?
Depends, is she RINO lite and just another leftist appointee?
Fuck her, I'd rather have a weak Conservative than a RINO any day.

2019/02/26   Overturn President Trump's National Emergency Declaration on the border      
2019/02/15   Surrender on the border wall; empower drug cartels and human traffickers      
2019/01/11   Reduce accountability in Congress by making federal pay mandatory spending      
2018/12/20   Release dangerous criminals from federal prisons      
2018/12/12   Squash debate on US involvement in a foreign war      
2018/12/12   Pass a $900 billion farm bill with socialist policies      
2018/11/28   Pass a bill that will lead to continued nation-building      
2018/09/26   Pass a promise-breaking cromnibus before the election      
2018/07/25   Extend a broken and almost-insolvent flood insurance program

It gets even worse!

https://libertyscore.conservativereview.com/elise-stefanik
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Elsie Stefanik has just one thing going for her, name recognition... same was for Jeff Sessions.

I'd rather have some else too!  Just a bit wary of Chip Roy.
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Bronx

Elise Stefanik stroked Trump's ego on his impeachment trial, therefore she's the he wants.

On voting record Elise Stefanik votes more with democrats than with republicans. Her Conservative Liberty score is 36% a big fat F.

Chip Roy has a Conservative Liberty score of 100%

Trump has lost his friggin' mind and everyone else who picks a republican that votes with democrats 64% of the time over a true Conservative Chip Roy who so far has a 100% Conservative voting record.

Thanks for bring this post forward....great job.
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Definitely a better choice on paper. Can't say I really know him.  This is one time that Trump is backing the wrong horse IMHO.

She appears to be the female Peter King.

American Exceptionalism

Done deal and a likely mistake.

Trump-Backed Elise Stefanik Replaces Liz Cheney as House GOP Chair

QuoteStefanik was initially known as a more pragmatic and moderate Republican, though she – cautiously – supported Trump as her party's 2016 nominee, according to sweeping New York Times and Wall Street Journal profiles. As Trump made his mark on the GOP as president, however, Stefanik emerged as something of a MAGA convert and by 2019 was one of Trump's most staunch and vocal defenders in the House.

https://www.newsmax.com/politics/liz-cheney-elise-stefanik-gop-republicans/2021/05/14/id/1021385/

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Quote from: Bronx on May 14, 2021, 06:21:39 AMElise Stefanik stroked Trump's ego on his impeachment trial, therefore she's the he wants.

On voting record Elise Stefanik votes more with democrats than with republicans. Her Conservative Liberty score is 36% a big fat F.

Chip Roy has a Conservative Liberty score of 100%

Trump has lost his friggin' mind and everyone else who picks a republican that votes with democrats 64% of the time over a true Conservative Chip Roy who so far has a 100% Conservative voting record.

Thanks for bring this post forward....great job.

Let's not forget Trump is not a true conservative. His support is probably based totally on her support for him.
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Bronx

Quote from: supsalemgr on May 14, 2021, 07:47:25 AMLet's not forget Trump is not a true conservative. His support is probably based totally on her support for him.

I know...hell when I saw Trump support for her and his disappointment that Chip Roy was throwing his hat in the ring...I thought Trump was having a flashback to his democrat days.......... :thumbsup:
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Chip Roy was TOO SLOW - and who didn't know this vote was coming 2 weeks ago?!

"Stefanik had several days' worth of a head start on launching her leadership bid — Roy only formally announced his challenge to her Thursday, the day before the vote. Trump also released a scathing statement directed at Roy and endorsing Stefanik.

Roy's fellow member of the conservative House Freedom Caucus, U.S. Rep. Ken Buck of Colorado, nominated him for the position, according to reports. Another Republican from Colorado, freshman U.S. Rep. Lauren Boebert, seconded his nomination. Boebert is a highly controversial member of the freshman class who infuriated colleagues on Jan. 6, when she posted on social media the location of lawmakers and that U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi had been removed from the chamber."

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If you're going to be an effective LEADER - make up your mind, get your act together, CALL TRUMP (he is the leader of the party), demonstrate you have a plan, vocalize it, and move on it.   Chip Roy, like Jeff Sessions is *just a vote* - not leadership material (yet).

Who knows what's going to happen with Stefanik - maybe she's seen the OUR side of things & knows she better produce, or she'll be voted out?  I certainly HOPE so.

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Solar

Quote from: Hoofer on May 14, 2021, 01:34:49 PMChip Roy was TOO SLOW - and who didn't know this vote was coming 2 weeks ago?!

"Stefanik had several days' worth of a head start on launching her leadership bid — Roy only formally announced his challenge to her Thursday, the day before the vote. Trump also released a scathing statement directed at Roy and endorsing Stefanik.

Roy's fellow member of the conservative House Freedom Caucus, U.S. Rep. Ken Buck of Colorado, nominated him for the position, according to reports. Another Republican from Colorado, freshman U.S. Rep. Lauren Boebert, seconded his nomination. Boebert is a highly controversial member of the freshman class who infuriated colleagues on Jan. 6, when she posted on social media the location of lawmakers and that U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi had been removed from the chamber."

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If you're going to be an effective LEADER - make up your mind, get your act together, CALL TRUMP (he is the leader of the party), demonstrate you have a plan, vocalize it, and move on it.  Chip Roy, like Jeff Sessions is *just a vote* - not leadership material (yet).

Who knows what's going to happen with Stefanik - maybe she's seen the OUR side of things & knows she better produce, or she'll be voted out?  I certainly HOPE so.

"Boebert is a highly controversial member of the freshman class"

WTF? Who wrote this shit? She's a solid Conservative!!!
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Quote from: Solar on May 14, 2021, 01:38:51 PM"Boebert is a highly controversial member of the freshman class"

WTF? Who wrote this shit? She's a solid Conservative!!!

Texas Tribune  Thought I had posted the source - sorry.

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