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Title: CA Eliminates Deficit
Post by: supsalemgr on January 10, 2013, 10:46:43 AM
http://www.cnbc.com/id/100370444 (http://www.cnbc.com/id/100370444)

This is an interesting article. Knowing the deep hole CS was in this quick recovery seems quite spectacular. It is stated this was accomplished by significant cuts and higher taxes. I just know that a state controlled by dems has a difficult time with cuts. I wonder if this is "smoke & mirrors" accounting.

Any folks with a better knowledge of the situation in CA have anything to add?
Title: Re: CA Eliminates Deficit
Post by: Solar on January 10, 2013, 11:25:40 AM
I live here, and believe me, people are stupid and will fall for this outright lie.
Numbers never lie, it's those working the numbers that lie, and boy did they work them...
Title: Re: CA Eliminates Deficit
Post by: supsalemgr on January 10, 2013, 11:35:52 AM
Quote from: Solar on January 10, 2013, 11:25:40 AM
I live here, and believe me, people are stupid and will fall for this outright lie.
Numbers never lie, it's those working the numbers that lie, and boy did they work them...

For some reason I am not surprised "Moonbeam" is not exactly correct.

Thanks.
Title: Re: CA Eliminates Deficit
Post by: kramarat on January 10, 2013, 01:40:45 PM
I think Moonbeam, as well as CNBC are smoking weed. What a bunch of morons.

Read the "conga line" article in the related links at the bottom of the page. They turn right around and say that CA is screwed. :blink:

Dummies!
Title: Re: CA Eliminates Deficit
Post by: mdgiles on January 10, 2013, 02:35:23 PM
Cali going broke doesn't concern me. Nor does all those other blue states going broke - even though I live in one. What does concern me - especially with that left wing idiot in Washington - is how more and more red states are reporting surpluses. So how long do you think it will be before "Obozo and the Blues" attempt to raid their treasuries - and set off our second Civil War?
Title: Re: CA Eliminates Deficit
Post by: taxed on January 10, 2013, 02:53:38 PM
Quote from: mdgiles on January 10, 2013, 02:35:23 PM
Cali going broke doesn't concern me. Nor does all those other blue states going broke - even though I live in one. What does concern me - especially with that left wing idiot in Washington - is how more and more red states are reporting surpluses. So how long do you think it will be before "Obozo and the Blues" attempt to raid their treasuries - and set off our second Civil War?

As long as it takes the liberals to flee those states to the red states, and to start voting in the liberal government they fled from, destroying the red states.
Title: Re: CA Eliminates Deficit
Post by: kramarat on January 10, 2013, 02:58:48 PM
Quote from: mdgiles on January 10, 2013, 02:35:23 PM
Cali going broke doesn't concern me. Nor does all those other blue states going broke - even though I live in one. What does concern me - especially with that left wing idiot in Washington - is how more and more red states are reporting surpluses. So how long do you think it will be before "Obozo and the Blues" attempt to raid their treasuries - and set off our second Civil War?

We got a republican, ( hopefully conservative), governor. Priority #1 looks like paying the feds back the $2 billion we were forced to borrow from them for extended unemployment payments. We need strong governors that are willing to tell Washington to screw off. There should be no money stolen to bail out blue state idiots. Texas is solid red, and a state that needs to get it's financial house in order.

Having financially sound, conservative minded red states, is the best way to prove that libs are morons.
Title: Re: CA Eliminates Deficit
Post by: mdgiles on January 10, 2013, 03:19:00 PM
Quote from: taxed on January 10, 2013, 02:53:38 PM
As long as it takes the liberals to flee those states to the red states, and to start voting in the liberal government they fled from, destroying the red states.
At what point do you believe that a majority of the people in the blue states will suddenly develop enough get up and go to move to the red states. And since the these states prosperity is often based upon industries like oil and gas, how many liberals do you think are prepared to start over as "roughnecks" in an energy field somewhere?
Title: Re: CA Eliminates Deficit
Post by: kramarat on January 10, 2013, 03:51:50 PM
Quote from: mdgiles on January 10, 2013, 03:19:00 PM
At what point do you believe that a majority of the people in the blue states will suddenly develop enough get up and go to move to the red states. And since the these states prosperity is often based upon industries like oil and gas, how many liberals do you think are prepared to start over as "roughnecks" in an energy field somewhere?

Typically, the way libs roll, is to leave the blue states to avoid paying crushing taxes...............move to red states, and start demanding all of the government crap they used to have. Doggie parks, bicycle paths, nature areas, beautiful parks for the kids, greenways, non-polluting buses, rules against smokers, increased police protection, more unqualified teachers................

They are incapable of understanding that these things cost money, and money comes from taxes. Idiots!!! :angry:
Title: Re: CA Eliminates Deficit
Post by: BILLY Defiant on January 10, 2013, 04:11:01 PM
Maybe they minted a trillion dollar coin
:popcorn:
Title: Re: CA Eliminates Deficit
Post by: not_one_of_them on January 10, 2013, 04:30:11 PM
Quote from: taxed on January 10, 2013, 02:53:38 PM
As long as it takes the liberals to flee those states to the red states, and to start voting in the liberal government they fled from, destroying the red states.

Oh you mean how they vote for higher taxes, then when they have to pay more they scream, cry and holler then run for the red states. What did the government run schools do to Americans?



Quote from: kramarat on January 10, 2013, 03:51:50 PM
Typically, the way libs roll, is to leave the blue states to avoid paying crushing taxes...............move to red states, and start demanding all of the government crap they used to have. Doggie parks, bicycle paths, nature areas, beautiful parks for the kids, greenways, non-polluting buses, rules against smokers, increased police protection, more unqualified teachers................

They are incapable of understanding that these things cost money, and money comes from taxes. Idiots!!! :angry:


Cost money  :woot: That doesn't cost money, the government pays for it. <sarcasm>
Title: Re: CA Eliminates Deficit
Post by: kramarat on January 10, 2013, 05:52:58 PM
Quote from: not_one_of_them on January 10, 2013, 04:30:11 PM
Oh you mean how they vote for higher taxes, then when they have to pay more they scream, cry and holler then run for the red states. What did the government run schools do to Americans?




Cost money  :woot: That doesn't cost money, the government pays for it. <sarcasm>

Yeah. I've seen my share of them.

They move out to the country, and freak out that there's no free city garbage pick up. :wink:
Title: Re: CA Eliminates Deficit
Post by: Solar on January 10, 2013, 06:07:35 PM
Quote from: kramarat on January 10, 2013, 05:52:58 PM
Yeah. I've seen my share of them.

They move out to the country, and freak out that there's no free city garbage pick up. :wink:
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Or sidewalks, streetlights, well paved roads, Starbucks etc.
But who pays all the taxes so city folk can have all those amenities? :rolleyes:
Title: Re: CA Eliminates Deficit
Post by: walkstall on January 10, 2013, 08:51:04 PM
Quote from: kramarat on January 10, 2013, 05:52:58 PM
Yeah. I've seen my share of them.

They move out to the country, and freak out that there's no free city garbage pick up.  :wink:


lol is there a city in the U.S. that has FREE garbage pick up?    :popcorn:
Title: Re: CA Eliminates Deficit
Post by: Cryptic Bert on January 10, 2013, 08:58:05 PM
Bookmark this for when they ask the fed for assistance...
Title: Re: CA Eliminates Deficit
Post by: Solar on January 10, 2013, 10:07:42 PM
Quote from: walkstall on January 10, 2013, 08:51:04 PM

lol is there a city in the U.S. that has FREE garbage pick up?    :popcorn:
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Govt and Free? That's like saying Tony Soprano you a favor and asked for nothing in return. :laugh:

Everyone pays garbage service, whether it's private, city, county, you either pay for it outright or through taxes, but there is no such thing as free city anything.
Title: Re: CA Eliminates Deficit
Post by: mdgiles on January 11, 2013, 08:36:40 AM
Quote from: Solar on January 10, 2013, 10:07:42 PM
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Govt and Free? That's like saying Tony Soprano you a favor and asked for nothing in return. :laugh:

Everyone pays garbage service, whether it's private, city, county, you either pay for it outright or through taxes, but there is no such thing as free city anything.
My property tax bill lists out the percentages that are going to every village, town, county, and state expense.
Title: Re: CA Eliminates Deficit
Post by: Solar on January 11, 2013, 08:50:11 AM
Quote from: mdgiles on January 11, 2013, 08:36:40 AM
My property tax bill lists out the percentages that are going to every village, town, county, and state expense.
Mine is rather vague, but suffice it to say, 90% goes to the school district, we pay garbage through a private interest.
And believe me, the garbage service is by far better managed.