Brett Kavanaugh Senate Confirmation Hearing

Started by Solar, September 04, 2018, 06:58:47 AM

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supsalemgr

Quote from: ldub23 on September 28, 2018, 11:53:56 AM
If the reps  cant get this nomination thru then the  midterms will be a bigger disaster than i even thought  it would be.2019 will be interesting with Trump being  impeached. I expect plenty of reps  in congress will support it thinking they can get Rubio to run in 2020. By the time  2020 is  over reps  might  only  have 40 senate seats and  150 house seats.

Impeachment is an empty effort and would cause the democrats to go down in flames in 2020. IF a democrat controlled house impeaches Trump the senate would never convict him and remove him from office.
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ldub23

Quote from: supsalemgr on September 28, 2018, 12:14:46 PM
Impeachment is an empty effort and would cause the democrats to go down in flames in 2020. IF a democrat controlled house impeaches Trump the senate would never convict him and remove him from office.

We will have to see about that. I expect now the dems will have the senate majority after Nov and  i further think quite a few rep senators will support impeachment to "cleanse" the  party. I have no doubt Most reps in congress despise Trump and think getting rid  of him will make the  party  pure again. As far as the dems going down in flames  in 2020 i seriously doubt that unless Trump survives. If alot  of reps end  up supporting  impeachment then a whole hell of alot  of  Trump voters will spit  on the rep party in 2020.

ldub23

Also, if dems control the senate in 2020 we all better pray no conservative  on the court croaks or quits. Trump wont  have a chance  in hell of getting any nomination passed unless they are  liberal.

supsalemgr

Quote from: ldub23 on September 28, 2018, 12:25:35 PM
We will have to see about that. I expect now the dems will have the senate majority after Nov and  i further think quite a few rep senators will support impeachment to "cleanse" the  party. I have no doubt Most reps in congress despise Trump and think getting rid  of him will make the  party  pure again. As far as the dems going down in flames  in 2020 i seriously doubt that unless Trump survives. If alot  of reps end  up supporting  impeachment then a whole hell of alot  of  Trump voters will spit  on the rep party in 2020.

I would suggest you refill your positive pills. There is no way in hell 67 senators would vote to convict Trump and remove him from office.
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ldub23

Quote from: supsalemgr on September 28, 2018, 12:54:46 PM
I would suggest you refill your positive pills. There is no way in hell 67 senators would vote to convict Trump and remove him from office.

How many rep senators secretly want Trump gone? The ones up for re-election in 2020 will want someone else at the top of the ticket.

walkstall

Quote from: ldub23 on September 28, 2018, 04:24:05 PM
How many rep senators secretly want Trump gone? The ones up for re-election in 2020 will want someone else at the top of the ticket.



LOL  How many rep senators secretly want Trump to stay.  But don't have the ball to come out and say it.  Just look at the economy and the job numbers.  Hell b o had 8 years and he could not even do that for the blacks.   
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Quote from: ldub23 on September 28, 2018, 04:24:05 PM
How many rep senators secretly want Trump gone? The ones up for re-election in 2020 will want someone else at the top of the ticket.


How many Dems walked away from the Marxist Party....how many you think will continue to walk away after this latest sickening circus we just witnessed?
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Solar

Quote from: ldub23 on September 28, 2018, 11:53:56 AM
If the reps  cant get this nomination thru then the  midterms will be a bigger disaster than i even thought  it would be.2019 will be interesting with Trump being  impeached. I expect plenty of reps  in congress will support it thinking they can get Rubio to run in 2020. By the time  2020 is  over reps  might  only  have 40 senate seats and  150 house seats.
What does any of that have to do with how the Right will vote? Do you seriously think people would stay home and let the left take power, just because the Dims stalled the vote?
The crap you're parroting is leftist and RINO talking points, no Conservative is going to sit home, in fact, this would only reinforce their hatred of the left further.
With that said, Kav will be seated regardless, this is all Kabuki theater.
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MichaelJ

Quote from: Solar on September 28, 2018, 08:43:21 PM
What does any of that have to do with how the Right will vote? Do you seriously think people would stay home and let the left take power, just because the Dims stalled the vote?
The crap you're parroting is leftist and RINO talking points, no Conservative is going to sit home, in fact, this would only reinforce their hatred of the left further.
With that said, Kav will be seated regardless, this is all Kabuki theater.

Yep, unless the FBI coerces one of the 3 "witnesses"  in an interview to change their previous sworn affidavits, there is no there, there. Dems will still not vote for him even when they get their precious FBI report, exonerating him for the most part or at the very worst announcing they are unable to confirm any of the story 36 years later

Solar

Quote from: MichaelJ on September 28, 2018, 11:52:58 PM
Yep, unless the FBI coerces one of the 3 "witnesses"  in an interview to change their previous sworn affidavits, there is no there, there. Dems will still not vote for him even when they get their precious FBI report, exonerating him for the most part or at the very worst announcing they are unable to confirm any of the story 36 years later
The funny part is, they won't be investigating Kav, they'll be looking into the background of the leftist loon, and God only knows what kind of craziness is hidden there.
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Solar

But wait, did the NY Slimes lie? no, but they didn't do their homework either.
Like giddy children, they followed the pedophile offering them a surprise.

American Bar Association and Yale Law School Urge F.B.I. Inquiry Into Kavanaugh

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/28/us/politics/judge-kavanaugh-american-bar-association-fbi.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur#commentsContainer

"The correspondence by Robert Carlson, President of the American Bar Association...was not received by the American Bar Association's Standing Committee on the Federal Judiciary prior to its issuance...The ABA's rating for Judge Kavanaugh is not affected by Mr. Carlson's letter."




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"The correspondence by Robert Carlson, President of the American Bar Association...was not received by the American Bar Association's Standing Committee on the Federal Judiciary prior to its issuance...The ABA's rating for Judge Kavanaugh is not affected by Mr. Carlson's letter."

2:43 PM - Sep 28, 2018
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2018/09/28/wow-it-turns-out-the-american-bar-association-story-on-brett-kavanaugh-was-fake-news/
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AmericanMom

When I left my house yesterday morning all the news was reporting how the vote looked to be signed seald and delivered, when I returned home less than 2 hours later it was in chaos, the vote to move out of Committee was starting and everyone was yelling.. It took me by surprise and my frustration when I learned that Flake had a meeting with dems and looked to be moving tword an FBI investigation had me livid.. I watched the circus until it was reported that Trump had ordered the FBI in and I turned it all off..
Figuring all was lost I spent time working around the farm...  Last night I came in and sat down and started reading different news stories and opinions and here is my conclusion:

Flake had to provide cover for the fence sitters, he agreed to allowing a FBI investigation limited to no more than one week and only about the current charges. The investigation is thus limited to time and scope.   Where things got hectic was that the dems thought that he was agreeing basically to the investigation and nothing more, they were caught off guard when the vote to continue Judge Kav out of committee and onto the senate floor took place..  That passed with a 11-10 margin (like we always knew it would)
what this means...

The FBI can come back today or Monday and say that there is no basis for an investigation, the complainant does not know the date or place the attack happened and the witnesses she herself names do not agree with her.
The vote for Judge Kav has already been moved out of the committee so that hurdle is cleared, Flake gave the fence sitters cover to say , hey.. we had the FBI to investigate and now we move on to confirm..

Just another way to look at this, it may or may not be a long shot but we shall see.
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harry12

Trump Calls On FBI To Open 'Supplemental Investigation' Into Kavanaugh Limited To 'Less Than One Week'

https://www.dailywire.com/news/36480/trump-calls-fbi-open-supplemental-investigation-frank-camp


I kinda thought it important to post this, the left wing media seems to neglect the limitations on this investigation.

supsalemgr

Quote from: AmericanMom on September 29, 2018, 07:00:25 AM
When I left my house yesterday morning all the news was reporting how the vote looked to be signed seald and delivered, when I returned home less than 2 hours later it was in chaos, the vote to move out of Committee was starting and everyone was yelling.. It took me by surprise and my frustration when I learned that Flake had a meeting with dems and looked to be moving tword an FBI investigation had me livid.. I watched the circus until it was reported that Trump had ordered the FBI in and I turned it all off..
Figuring all was lost I spent time working around the farm...  Last night I came in and sat down and started reading different news stories and opinions and here is my conclusion:

Flake had to provide cover for the fence sitters, he agreed to allowing a FBI investigation limited to no more than one week and only about the current charges. The investigation is thus limited to time and scope.   Where things got hectic was that the dems thought that he was agreeing basically to the investigation and nothing more, they were caught off guard when the vote to continue Judge Kav out of committee and onto the senate floor took place..  That passed with a 11-10 margin (like we always knew it would)
what this means...

The FBI can come back today or Monday and say that there is no basis for an investigation, the complainant does not know the date or place the attack happened and the witnesses she herself names do not agree with her.
The vote for Judge Kav has already been moved out of the committee so that hurdle is cleared, Flake gave the fence sitters cover to say , hey.. we had the FBI to investigate and now we move on to confirm..

Just another way to look at this, it may or may not be a long shot but we shall see.

I totally agree with you that Flake did this to provide cover for the fence sitters.  :thumbup:
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walkstall

Quote from: harry12 on September 29, 2018, 07:53:22 AM
Trump Calls On FBI To Open 'Supplemental Investigation' Into Kavanaugh Limited To 'Less Than One Week'

https://www.dailywire.com/news/36480/trump-calls-fbi-open-supplemental-investigation-frank-camp


I kinda thought it important to post this, the left wing media seems to neglect the limitations on this investigation.


The MSM only post what make them look good.
A politician thinks of the next election. A statesman, of the next generation.- James Freeman Clarke

Always remember "Feelings Aren't Facts."