The votes are there to oust him. He's looking for Dems to save him. What a turd.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/08/exclusive-mulvaney-boehner-lacks-enough-gop-votes-for-re-election-his-future-depends-on-whether-dems-bail-him-out/
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Rep. Mick Mulvaney (R-SC) one of the 28 Republicans who publicly supports replacing House Speaker Rep. John Boehner (R-OH) with a Republican alternative, told Breitbart News on Tuesday that Boehner does not have enough support within the Republican conference to win re-election with just Republican votes.
Therefore, Mulvaney said, should there be a vote on a privileged resolution on a motion to vacate the chair of the House of Representatives—a fancy term for a vote to remove Boehner from the speakership—the only way Boehner can keep his job is if Democrats vote for him to bail him out.
"The math depends on the Democrats, doesn't it?" Mulvaney told Breitbart News in a phone interview on Tuesday afternoon. "I think if all the Democrats were to vote against John, he'd lose the Speakership, but I don't think anyone knows where the Democrats stand."
Technically, the magic number for Boehner to lose re-election without a Democrat infusion or some kind of shenanigans where members don't show up to vote or something akin to that is 29 Republicans voting against him. There are 28 Republicans publicly opposed to Boehner's re-election, but many more privately who have confirmed that they can't vote for Boehner to Mulvaney and others. Many more are teetering on the edge of becoming public, and Boehner's team is certainly terrified, as Politico's Jake Sherman and John Bresnahan detailed on Tuesday morning.
Quote from: taxed on September 09, 2015, 12:13:57 PM
The votes are there to oust him. He's looking for Dems to save him. What a turd.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/08/exclusive-mulvaney-boehner-lacks-enough-gop-votes-for-re-election-his-future-depends-on-whether-dems-bail-him-out/
My rep, Mark Meadows, is one of the leaders to oust Boehner. He has the full con support of his constituents in this effort. Will the democrats bail him out? If so, they know they will own him.
The Democrats will probably bail him out.
Boehner, a `rat's best friend.
Quote from: The Boo Man... on September 09, 2015, 01:12:06 PM
The Democrats will probably bail him out.
Boo, can you fast forward to your your young lady doing this in this thirty years? On second thought - never mind. :lol:
I think the rising anti-Boehner movement in the House is spurred by the public's unequivocal rejection of Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio, and any other inside RINO.
When they see the rising populist support for Trump, they know they must make radical changes. RINOs are officially out of favor with the Republican constituents. Up until now the GOP Reps were afraid of Boehner. Now they no longer need to fear him. They have the public behind them!
That is a TEA success story for sure!!!
Boo, would you please put some clothes on that girl..... pls.
Quote from: The Boo Man... on September 09, 2015, 01:12:06 PM
The Democrats will probably bail him out.
If the Demorats bail him out - or rather attempt to bail him out - Boner will be dead. After all solid Demorat support will simply prove what everyone's been saying about him.
My congressman, Daniel Webster was selected to try to replace Bonehead, he failed and Bonehead took away all his committee appointments. This cannot happen soon enough and I hope and PRAY it is true. McConnell needs to go as well...quickly!
I'd love to see Boehner ousted but I seriously doubt it'll happen. I don't even think this will come down to the Dems, when push comes to shove I don't believe the GOP will remove him.
Quote from: Ultra on September 10, 2015, 07:41:06 AM
I'd love to see Boehner ousted but I seriously doubt it'll happen. I don't even think this will come down to the Dems, when push comes to shove I don't believe the GOP will remove him.
Then why is he courting the enemy Marxists to save his worthless ass?
He thinks it makes him look good. He's been trying for awhile now to repaint himself as a bi-partisan guy who can reach across the aisle.
Quote from: Ultra on September 10, 2015, 08:14:17 AM
He thinks it makes him look good. He's been trying for awhile now to repaint himself as a bi-partisan guy who can reach across the aisle.
Yeah, the epitome of capitulating RINO. The entire GOPe has been doing that for decades, that's nothing new.
No, he's scared shitless that he's about to be tossed out on his Marxist appealing ass, and he's calling on his allies, our enemies, to throw him a life preserver.
Thing is, they'll throw him under the bus, he's outlived his usefulness now that he's been outed as one of them.
Quote from: Ultra on September 10, 2015, 07:41:06 AM
I'd love to see Boehner ousted but I seriously doubt it'll happen. I don't even think this will come down to the Dems, when push comes to shove I don't believe the GOP will remove him.
Can you support this position, given the GOP having so many backstabbers?
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Quote from: quiller on September 10, 2015, 08:27:55 AM
Can you support this position, given the GOP having so many backstabbers?
The first point I'll make in support of my position is that the article in the OP engages in some speculation as to how many votes there may be in favor of removal but the only thing it states as a fact is that the GOP is currently one vote short of removal.
Quote from: Solar on September 10, 2015, 08:23:58 AM
Yeah, the epitome of capitulating RINO. The entire GOPe has been doing that for decades, that's nothing new.
No, he's scared shitless that he's about to be tossed out on his Marxist appealing ass, and he's calling on his allies, our enemies, to throw him a life preserver.
Thing is, they'll throw him under the bus, he's outlived his usefulness now that he's been outed as one of them.
I don't think he has outlived his usefulness to the Dems. They are the minority yet have an opposition speaker in their back pocket. Why would the Dems want him gone?
But, I don't think the Dems will need to save him, I think the RNC will.
Quote from: Ultra on September 10, 2015, 08:37:20 AM
The first point I'll make in support of my position is that the article in the OP engages in some speculation as to how many votes there may be in favor of removal but the only thing it states as a fact is that the GOP is currently one vote short of removal.
And they'll need two to ensure any ouster succeeds, yes? Now repeat after me: EARMARKS!!!! The party bulls will buy somebody off. It's never new and always "unexpectedly."
Quote from: quiller on September 10, 2015, 08:40:34 AM
And they'll need two to ensure any ouster succeeds, yes? Now repeat after me: EARMARKS!!!! The party bulls will buy somebody off. It's never new and always "unexpectedly."
I agree that people will be bought off, I just think it'll go in the other direction. I think the RNC, an organization not at all friendly to conservatives/TP candidates, will remind some people that they have a big say in who gets RNC backing when it comes to campaign ads and funding.
Doesn't the GOP caucus select their own leadership? Therefore, if a majority of the caucus goes with new leadership that is the group put before the entire House. If that is the case all the GOP members will vote for the new team. Why? Because in the House it is all about power. No sane GOP member would vote for a democrat Speaker as then they would lose all power in the committees. Someone please correct if I am not right.
Quote from: Ultra on September 10, 2015, 08:39:37 AM
I don't think he has outlived his usefulness to the Dems. They are the minority yet have an opposition speaker in their back pocket. Why would the Dems want him gone?
But, I don't think the Dems will need to save him, I think the RNC will.
Not if it means his every move is rejected by his own party. At this point they'd have a better shot at getting a Bill passed in compromise.
Quote from: supsalemgr on September 10, 2015, 09:19:15 AM
Doesn't the GOP caucus select their own leadership? Therefore, if a majority of the caucus goes with new leadership that is the group put before the entire House. If that is the case all the GOP members will vote for the new team. Why? Because in the House it is all about power. No sane GOP member would vote for a democrat Speaker as then they would lose all power in the committees. Someone please correct if I am not right.
Normally that's policy, but they can vote cross party lines, as a third party would align with those in power.
In the past, it would have been a death sentence for a Dim to support a Pub, but not in today's leftist climate of burn and pillage.
Quote from: Solar on September 10, 2015, 10:09:30 AM
Not if it means his every move is rejected by his own party. At this point they'd have a better shot at getting a Bill passed in compromise.
His every move isn't being rejected by his own party. Most republicans aren't conservative.
Quote from: Solar on September 10, 2015, 10:14:00 AM
Normally that's policy, but they can vote cross party lines, as a third party would align with those in power.
In the past, it would have been a death sentence for a Dim to support a Pub, but not in today's leftist climate of burn and pillage.
solar, I think sup was saying that the nomination of their leader takes place in the GOP caucus. Dems can't vote there. They only vote when it comes before the full House.
Quote from: Ultra on September 10, 2015, 10:22:01 AM
His every move isn't being rejected by his own party. Most republicans aren't conservative.
NOT yet! But we are working on that.
Quote from: walkstall on September 10, 2015, 11:10:42 AM
NOT yet! But we are working on that.
I wish I could thank this. This is why I'm here. I'm not going to claim that I fit in 100% with any political group but the last few years have shown all of us that elections have consequences and you have to pick a side and a conservative GOP would most closely align with my beliefs. Not 100% but close enough that I'd be satisfied. I would love to see the GOP get rid of their prog element and actually live the rhetoric they spew during campaigns.
Quote from: Ultra on September 10, 2015, 11:16:43 AM
I wish I could thank this. This is why I'm here. I'm not going to claim that I fit in 100% with any political group but the last few years have shown all of us that elections have consequences and you have to pick a side and a conservative GOP would most closely align with my beliefs. Not 100% but close enough that I'd be satisfied. I would love to see the GOP get rid of their prog element and actually live the rhetoric they spew during campaigns.
You sound like most Lib's that's not happy with all the lies of the last 6+ years. This has been one hell of a wake up call for a lot of lib's.
Quote from: walkstall on September 10, 2015, 11:28:15 AM
You sound like most Lib's that's not happy with all the lies of the last 6+ years. This has been one hell of a wake up call for a lot of lib's.
I don't object to being called a Liberal, I'm sure some of my social positions probably won't go over well here and social conservatism is just not my thing but I'm not now and never have been a Democrat.
Quote from: Ultra on September 10, 2015, 11:31:50 AM
I don't object to being called a Liberal, I'm sure some of my social positions probably won't go over well here and social conservatism is just not my thing but I'm not now and never have been a Democrat.
I will just put you down as a Shill. :glare:
Quote from: walkstall on September 10, 2015, 11:36:43 AM
I will just put you down as a Shill. :glare:
Give me a few posts and I think I can change your mind.
Quote from: Ultra on September 10, 2015, 11:31:50 AM
I don't object to being called a Liberal, I'm sure some of my social positions probably won't go over well here and social conservatism is just not my thing but I'm not now and never have been a Democrat.
It sounds like you are more aligned as a libertarian.
Quote from: Ultra on September 10, 2015, 10:22:01 AM
His every move isn't being rejected by his own party. Most republicans aren't conservative.
With half of Congress trying to unseat him, it's pretty obvious he's already been rejected.
Quote from: Solar on September 10, 2015, 12:19:40 PM
With half of Congress trying to unseat him, it's pretty obvious he's already been rejected.
Half of Congress isn't trying to unseat him. The OP posted an article saying that 28 republicans want to unseat him...and whether or not they follow through remains to be seen. Hyperbole much?
Quote from: Ultra on September 10, 2015, 12:49:13 PM
Half of Congress isn't trying to unseat him. The OP posted an article saying that 28 republicans want to unseat him...and whether or not they follow through remains to be seen. Hyperbole much?
No, it said that 28 were publicly declared to vote against him BUT there were others who want him out but have yet to show their hand! They are waiting to see if the numbers can be gotten to oust him. When they are assured that their vote will win, they will vote him out.
They are just afraid to declare their vote because of Boehner's famed revenge against those who vote against him.
Quote from: Ultra on September 10, 2015, 12:49:13 PM
Half of Congress isn't trying to unseat him. The OP posted an article saying that 28 republicans want to unseat him...and whether or not they follow through remains to be seen. Hyperbole much?
Incorrect. The votes are there. The public support is there. Time to flush the turd down the toilet.
Quote from: taxed on September 10, 2015, 01:33:16 PM
Incorrect. The votes are there. The public support is there. Time to flush the turd down the toilet.
When they do this, there'll be at least one more that needs to go down the hole with him.
Quote from: Ultra on September 10, 2015, 11:42:03 AM
Give me a few posts and I think I can change your mind.
I have been doing this for over 20 years now. :biggrin:
Your wasting your time on me. Your posting on a Conservative Tea Party board.
Quote from: Ultra on September 10, 2015, 11:31:50 AM
I don't object to being called a Liberal,
Well, there you go.
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I'm sure some of my social positions probably won't go over well here and social conservatism is just not my thing but I'm not now and never have been a Democrat.
It's about right and wrong. Not what side you're on.
Quote from: Ultra on September 10, 2015, 12:49:13 PM
Half of Congress isn't trying to unseat him. The OP posted an article saying that 28 republicans want to unseat him...and whether or not they follow through remains to be seen. Hyperbole much?
Reading comprehension issues?
QuoteJohn Boehner (R-OH) with a Republican alternative, told Breitbart News on Tuesday that Boehner does not have enough support within the Republican conference to win re-election with just Republican votes.
Therefore, Mulvaney said, should there be a vote on a privileged resolution on a motion to vacate the chair of the House of Representatives—a fancy term for a vote to remove Boehner from the speakership—the only way Boehner can keep his job is if Democrats vote for him to bail him out..
Quote from: Ultra on September 10, 2015, 11:31:50 AM
I don't object to being called a Liberal, I'm sure some of my social positions probably won't go over well here and social conservatism is just not my thing but I'm not now and never have been a Democrat.
We're TEA, social issues are on the back burner, shrinking Govt is first and foremost.
Stick around, let us enlighten you on what is most important.
Quote from: Ultra on September 10, 2015, 11:16:43 AM
I wish I could thank this. This is why I'm here. I'm not going to claim that I fit in 100% with any political group but the last few years have shown all of us that elections have consequences and you have to pick a side and a conservative GOP would most closely align with my beliefs. Not 100% but close enough that I'd be satisfied. I would love to see the GOP get rid of their prog element and actually live the rhetoric they spew during campaigns.
We all would, that's why we're TEA.