Are you for or against Super PACs? 2020 Candidate stances

Started by joesixpack, November 25, 2019, 10:07:01 AM

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Quote from: taxed on November 25, 2019, 06:13:29 PM
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Presidential Primary Debates
Private media outlets charge outrageous sums of money to run ads during presidential primary debates. This year CNN reportedly required a commitment of $300,000 before a sponsor could buy ad time during the presidential debates, and 30 seconds of air time can cost around $110,000. Private media outlets are making enormous sums of money during events that are meant to inform the public about their candidates. Furthermore, many of their advertisers have vested interest in who is elected. This type of influence must end.

As president, Bernie will:
Ban advertising during presidential primary debates.
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Quote from: joesixpack on November 25, 2019, 01:13:58 PM
That, I don't know. I'm not opposed to a Constitutional Amendment.

Are you for or against Super PACs?


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i pulled this from his website while googling a response to your question:

I haven't read this article yet, but it's from 2019 so it might have some new info:

https://time.com/5651417/constitutional-amendment-campaign-finance/

I have no problem with super PAC's as they are another form of expression.
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Quote from: joesixpack on November 26, 2019, 06:28:13 AM
Sure, I'm for it being individuals only
I am not talking about single union members, I am talking about the practice where the unions give vast amounts of $ to the dims without asking the individuals who their preference is. How fair do you see that practice? Remember, this is $ taken from the individuals in the form of dues, why do the unions have a right to donate and super pacs don't?

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Quote from: s3779m on November 26, 2019, 10:01:18 AM
I am not talking about single union members, I am talking about the practice where the unions give vast amounts of $ to the dims without asking the individuals who their preference is. How fair do you see that practice? Remember, this is $ taken from the individuals in the form of dues, why do the unions have a right to donate and super pacs don't?

I was saying sure to get the Union money out of it too. Let it be only individual contributions.
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noun: democracy
a system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives.

Reps pre 1912 = mostly Progressive
Dems pre 1928 = mostly Conservative

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Quote from: joesixpack on November 26, 2019, 10:03:45 AM
I was saying sure to get the Union money out of it too. Let it be only individual contributions.

So, only individual contributions, yet you support someone who never in a million years would eliminate such donations from unions?  I'd love for you to explain this insanity.  Clowns like Bernie would have no chance without voter fraud and tax-payer subsidized campaign financing.
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Quote from: taxed on November 26, 2019, 05:03:31 PM
So, only individual contributions, yet you support someone who never in a million years would eliminate such donations from unions?  I'd love for you to explain this insanity.  Clowns like Bernie would have no chance without voter fraud and tax-payer subsidized campaign financing.
Those that support Bernie's policies have to sacrifice principles to support the guy. What he claims to be against, are the very things he's used to get where he is.
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Quote from: Solar on November 26, 2019, 05:09:32 PM
Those that support Bernie's policies have to sacrifice principles to support the guy. What he claims to be against, are the very things he's used to get where he is.

It's incredible how stupid Bernie supporters are. I have yet to talk with an intelligent one that can't have their positions knocked down with simple questions.
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Quote from: taxed on November 26, 2019, 05:12:23 PM
It's incredible how stupid Bernie supporters are. I have yet to talk with an intelligent one that can't have their positions knocked down with simple questions.
That's the thing, they know absolutely about Communism.
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Quote from: joesixpack on November 26, 2019, 10:03:45 AM
I was saying sure to get the Union money out of it too. Let it be only individual contributions.
Joe, I retired from a career in law enforcement in New York State.  New York has been an "agency Shop" state throughout my career and long before.  The State Civil Service Law allows the union to take an "agency shop fee" equal to the amount of union dues out of every employee.  Such "agency Shop Fee payers" have no voting rights, therefore everyone is coersed by the state government into joining the union. (since you pay the same amount whether or not you have a right to vote or speak at meetings)   All the time I was employed, our union never supported any candidate of my choosing.  I got tons of wastebasket liners though sent to me about each and every communist/marxist/socialist cause, all bought and paid for with our union dues.  BTW, police & firemen and teachers in New York State are prohibited from sties by The Taylor Law.  However, our union had unionized their employees at each and every level and they stuck us three times for their increased wages and benefits paid for with our increased dues. (usually just prior to contract negotiation time). The Left Wing politicians are supported by union contributions and they pay them back with laws which do not protect workers..but do enrich the corrupt unions.

Since all Unions are corporations, Citizens United simply ruled that the Unions ought not be the only corporations who are allowed free speech and a voice in our elections! 

Good Luck trying to undo the power of unions over Liberal politicians in every level of our government.  Until/unless this is done, other corporations may have PACS just like the Unions all do!
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Quote from: Solar on November 26, 2019, 05:13:34 PM
That's the thing, they know absolutely about Communism.

Oh my God, they wouldn't last 4 seconds in one of those countries.  Just simple things that Marxists like to do, like sitting in Starbucks sipping $5 coffees while blogging about evil capitalism on their Macbook Pro that their capitalist dad bought for them to waiting 45 minutes in line for internet like in Cuba.
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