Quote from: T Hunt on July 24, 2018, 11:19:51 AM
November is the time to keep the gop in power. The time to purge it of RINOS was the primaries, already over. As much as i hate rinos i wld still rather have ryan than ocasio cortez, if those r my only two choices. We wont have another chance at a purge until the 2020 primaries.

Im worried some will not vote for their rino and that will let the dems take power. Fortenberry is my rino. He disgusts me, but no one ran against him in the primary and i certainly dont want his seat going to the dems. So i will vote for him and take a long shower afterwards.

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So Ryan rather than Cortez? Hmm.........
The GOP has been RINO since Fremont in 1856 w/a legislative
and judicial record that is unassailable proof.
Or perhaps their abandonment of states rights; our heritage from
Henry, Jefferson, Madison, Monroe and Rutledge; for centralized
government was their 'better way' having nothing to do w/greed??
A reflection from history.
The Greeks and Romans treated enemies and traitors differently
for a simple reason, because they understood an enemy had his
honor while traitors had none.
Consequently, enemies were killed in battle or captured while
traitors were burned in a public arena. So much for the RINO!!!

Quote from: supsalemgr on July 24, 2018, 04:46:33 AM
Exactly. However, I understand folks do not have access to sensitive material without approval. I see this as Trump seeing an opportunity to pull democrat chains again and he is right on target. The left is freaking out and distracted again.

I think it's interesting that Sanders said the President was looking into revoking those clearances.  There are several
things here, first a clearance is normally not revoked when a person leaves Government Service, it's just not active
any longer, and it normally expires after a set period of time..two - three years.   Then there's the part where you work
for one agency and have a clearance, and move to another agency.  If the new agency wants you to have a clearance,
they have to file for a new clearance.  Withing a department or agency they can be transported, but not outside the
original requesting agency or department.   The individuals the article is talking about all resigned or retired from the
governemt, though their last agency may hold their clearances, they are not active, and they no longer have the NEED TO
KNOW.   If it can be proved an individual violated his clearance, it can be revoked  (re: Comey and his classified memo).
otherwise it's really just a waste of time...

As long as they have this clearance people within the government will be comfortable leaking to them. Take away that clearance and the leaking will dry up because the leakers would committing serious crimes.

Quote from: The Boo Man... on July 24, 2018, 06:19:29 PM
As long as they have this clearance people within the government will be comfortable leaking to them. Take away that clearance and the leaking will dry up because the leakers would committing serious crimes.

President Trump is far too restrained for my liking.


These criminals should have had their Clearances stripped on DAY ONE.

Quote from: Walter Josh on July 24, 2018, 02:14:14 PM
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So Ryan rather than Cortez? Hmm.........
The GOP has been RINO since Fremont in 1856 w/a legislative
and judicial record that is unassailable proof.
Or perhaps their abandonment of states rights; our heritage from
Henry, Jefferson, Madison, Monroe and Rutledge; for centralized
government was their 'better way' having nothing to do w/greed??
A reflection from history.
The Greeks and Romans treated enemies and traitors differently
for a simple reason, because they understood an enemy had his
honor while traitors had none.
Consequently, enemies were killed in battle or captured while
traitors were burned in a public arena. So much for the RINO!!!

Dont get me wrong walter, i certainly have much more hate for the lieing rinos, and despise ryan as i think he is trying to throw the midterms, and because so many times when we depended on him to do the right thing he just comes up with some bull s**t excuse why he cant.

I am simply saying that, tactically speaking, the rinos are working with trump just slightly more than the unified obstru tionist dems. My point is that, as liars, the rinos bend with whatever wind is most powerful, so for the moment trump can use them to get certain things passed. The reality is that the rino wont be fully purged this nov, and that trump will get more done legislatively if rinos are in power than if dems are.
For instance all these congreasional investigations that trump and Q r using to publicly advance the Hunt, will be shut down if the dems take power.

Believe me, i feel very dirty for saying it, but strategically, for the 2018 midterms, it is better for rinos to beat dems...

You have frequently made the point that it is better for a leader to be feared than loved (very Machiavellian, but im ok with that) so i am curious, who fears trump more? Dems or Rinos? Or niether?

Quote from: Rotwang on July 25, 2018, 03:23:07 AM

President Trump is far too restrained for my liking.


These criminals should have had their Clearances stripped on DAY ONE.

You know i was thinking that too, and then a friend of mine sent me this. It is basically saying that trump allowed these guys to keep their clearence and keep leaking in order to use them to map out the leaking network of the deep state. Now that trump has finished that he is using rand paul as a convienient public excuse to pull the clearences at this time.

https://mobile.twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1021523277091627008

Quote from: T Hunt on July 25, 2018, 09:24:08 AM
You know i was thinking that too, and then a friend of mine sent me this. It is basically saying that trump allowed these guys to keep their clearence and keep leaking in order to use them to map out the leaking network of the deep state. Now that trump has finished that he is using rand paul as a convienient public excuse to pull the clearences at this time.

https://mobile.twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1021523277091627008

I've been saying this all along.

Quote from: T Hunt on July 25, 2018, 09:20:22 AM
Dont get me wrong walter, i certainly have much more hate for the lieing rinos, and despise ryan as i think he is trying to throw the midterms, and because so many times when we depended on him to do the right thing he just comes up with some bull s**t excuse why he cant.

I am simply saying that, tactically speaking, the rinos are working with trump just slightly more than the unified obstru tionist dems. My point is that, as liars, the rinos bend with whatever wind is most powerful, so for the moment trump can use them to get certain things passed. The reality is that the rino wont be fully purged this nov, and that trump will get more done legislatively if rinos are in power than if dems are.
For instance all these congreasional investigations that trump and Q r using to publicly advance the Hunt, will be shut down if the dems take power.

Believe me, i feel very dirty for saying it, but strategically, for the 2018 midterms, it is better for rinos to beat dems...

You have frequently made the point that it is better for a leader to be feared than loved (very Machiavellian, but im ok with that) so i am curious, who fears trump more? Dems or Rinos? Or niether?

Do not fret. We are making progress just like we have been since 2010. As I have said many times, it takes time. Here is more proof how the "establishment" is losing power at the grass roots as well:

https://politics.myajc.com/blog/politics/bad-night-for-capitol-crowd-georgia-gop-runoff/jxNhbTJ4PkdMDX6pJL6G8H/

Quote from: T Hunt on July 25, 2018, 09:20:22 AM
Dont get me wrong walter, i certainly have much more hate for the lieing rinos, and despise ryan as i think he is trying to throw the midterms, and because so many times when we depended on him to do the right thing he just comes up with some bull s**t excuse why he cant.

I am simply saying that, tactically speaking, the rinos are working with trump just slightly more than the unified obstru tionist dems. My point is that, as liars, the rinos bend with whatever wind is most powerful, so for the moment trump can use them to get certain things passed. The reality is that the rino wont be fully purged this nov, and that trump will get more done legislatively if rinos are in power than if dems are.
For instance all these congreasional investigations that trump and Q r using to publicly advance the Hunt, will be shut down if the dems take power.

Believe me, i feel very dirty for saying it, but strategically, for the 2018 midterms, it is better for rinos to beat dems...

You have frequently made the point that it is better for a leader to be feared than loved (very Machiavellian, but im ok with that) so i am curious, who fears trump more? Dems or Rinos? Or niether?

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Provocative and reflective.
You're being much too kind to Ryan!!!
Anyway what's the greater good?
In candor, it's an R lefty rather than a Dem, as there's no
leverage over the latter except perhaps immediate execution.
As for my soulmate Machiavelli, he was actually a Roman
born 1000 year after the Fall.
Stay well.

Quote from: Walter Josh on July 26, 2018, 09:36:04 PM
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Provocative and reflective.
You're being much too kind to Ryan!!!
Anyway what's the greater good?
In candor, it's an R lefty rather than a Dem, as there's no
leverage over the latter except perhaps immediate execution.
As for my soulmate Machiavelli, he was actually a Roman
born 1000 year after the Fall.
Stay well.

Well ryans on his way out so we wont have to worry about him much longer, and things should be alot better in the house when jim jordan gets house peaker.

The damage that is being done for money with these folks that don't work for the government any longer that have security clearances is off the charts terrifying. This is just one instance, can you imagine the conga line of information these folks are getting and releasing to the liberal media.

I'll give a year's worth of salary if I can rip the veil off and see the inner working of these treasonous acts.

Rand Paul: John Brennan Leaked Top Secret Information That Blew A US Operation To Help Friends Make Money

Clear evidence concerning the bias of multiple, high-ranking current and former intelligence community officials should make us think twice about letting retired intelligence officials keep access to classified information, especially if they become talking heads on television after leaving public service.
There is a great danger that vital, secret details may be revealed on television, even inadvertently.

John Brennan is no stranger to this problem.

In 2012, John Brennan leaked information to former counter-terrorism officials, who retained a security clearance, about an underwear bomb-making plot in Yemen.

READ MORE.....
https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/07/26/rand-paul-john-brennans-security-clearance-is-a-danger/

https://www.redstate.com/streiff/2018/07/27/rand-paul-john-brennan-leaked-top-secret-information-blew-us-operation-help-friends-make-money/

Quote from: T Hunt on July 27, 2018, 12:44:15 AM
Well ryans on his way out so we wont have to worry about him much longer, and things should be alot better in the house when jim jordan gets house peaker.

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Prolly, I should have said the lesser evil.
Anyway doubt the GOP will support Jordan, as they want the status quo.
Trump's challenge is the driver behind their raging animus toward him.
My answer is a principled conservative party.