Well, Barr has spoken...no criminal investigations involving Obama and Biden are planned. He indicates that criminal activity MAY be focused on others. Did you really expect anything else?
This only shows that there are 2 different judicial systems in America. If Clinton can get away with criminal activity why shouldn't these two get off as well.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/barr-durham-probe
No, what it shows is they need more evidence and as this continues to unfold, even libs will be crying for an investigation into the Marxist.
What is Barr telling you? He doesn't have the gonads to push for justice. Just like Biden will walk away from the Burisma deal.
Quote from: drifter106 on May 18, 2020, 10:44:29 AM
What is Barr telling you? He doesn't have the gonads to push for justice. Just like Biden will walk away from the Burisma deal.
After all this time, and you still second guess Trump? :rolleyes:
Quote from: drifter106 on May 18, 2020, 10:44:29 AM
What is Barr telling you? He doesn't have the gonads to push for justice. Just like Biden will walk away from the Burisma deal.
Why would Barr put them on notice? The fact they are investigating others ind
Quote from: Solar on May 18, 2020, 10:46:38 AM
After all this time, and you still second guess Trump? :rolleyes:
What is the heck does this have to do with Trump? Its about our judical system and lack of ability to carry out justice. For heaven sakes man...isn't it obvious to anybody that Trump thinks that Biden and Obama broke the law? Then you come on here and move the goal posts indicating that I am second guessing Trump. I would have thought you would be above that Solar....
Quote from: drifter106 on May 18, 2020, 10:54:59 AM
What is the heck does this have to do with Trump? Its about our judical system and lack of ability to carry out justice. For heaven sakes man...isn't it obvious to anybody that Trump thinks that Biden and Obama broke the law? Then you come on here and move the goal posts indicating that I am second guessing Trump. I would have thought you would be above that Solar....
Do you not think Trump and Barr on the same page? I'm more concerned with your inability to read between the lines and sucker for a FOX headline.
"while noting that their concern of "potential criminality" in the conduct of that probe is "
focused on others."
I'll translate: We're gathering more information that will lead us to the big fish!
Quote from: drifter106 on May 18, 2020, 10:38:56 AM
Well, Barr has spoken...no criminal investigations involving Obama and Biden are planned. He indicates that criminal activity MAY be focused on others. Did you really expect anything else?
This only shows that there are 2 different judicial systems in America. If Clinton can get away with criminal activity why shouldn't these two get off as well.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/barr-durham-probe
yeah...I am disappointed. But...i'll wait awhile longer. This may get so big that they can't ignore it. There is no doubt there is a double standard of application of law in this country.
Sad, isn't it. Americans want to see justice.... justice delayed is justice denied....and what you get is a very angry populace.
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"I have today." - Barr
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Quote from: Calypso Jones on May 18, 2020, 11:20:15 AM
yeah...I am disappointed. But...i'll wait awhile longer. This may get so big that they can't ignore it. There is no doubt there is a double standard of application of law in this country.
Sad, isn't it. Americans want to see justice.... justice delayed is justice denied....and what you get is a very angry populace.
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Or you lose the case in court, as they did not do all their homework.
Quote from: Solar on May 18, 2020, 11:04:13 AM
Do you not think Trump and Barr on the same page? I'm more concerned with your inability to read between the lines and sucker for a FOX headline.
"while noting that their concern of "potential criminality" in the conduct of that probe is "focused on others."
I'll translate: We're gathering more information that will lead us to the big fish!
Some people need to be concerned about themselves, using common sense and look at the way events have been handled prior to this event. Reminds me of the preverbal man who wishes for something....chit in one hand and wish in the other. Wait and see which one fills up first. I hope that I am wrong...dead wrong, but Biden and Obama....ain't gonna happen.
Barr doesn't have the balls to push it and the Rhino's in the Senate are gonna cover their asses. Just look at balloon man a.k.a hot air Graham. One of the biggest bull chitters in the Senate....
In the end, Barr is gonna play middle of the road...he knows if he indicts the higher ups the demo's and liberals would come close to starting a war. Doesn't have the stomach or fortitude to carry it out.
What ever happend to the investigations with Bidens son? Graham was on that like stink on poop when it all came out. Said he was gonna have investigations.....glad we aren't holding our breath.
Just the way I look at it...and your rheteroric at this point isn't gonna influence me at all....somethin's gotta happen before I change my mind.
Quote from: drifter106 on May 18, 2020, 03:40:09 PM
Some people need to be concerned about themselves, using common sense and look at the way events have been handled prior to this event. Reminds me of the preverbal man who wishes for something....chit in one hand and wish in the other. Wait and see which one fills up first. I hope that I am wrong...dead wrong, but Biden and Obama....ain't gonna happen.
Barr doesn't have the balls to push it and the Rhino's in the Senate are gonna cover their asses. Just look at balloon man a.k.a hot air Graham. One of the biggest bull chitters in the Senate....
In the end, Barr is gonna play middle of the road...he knows if he indicts the higher ups the demo's and liberals would come close to starting a war. Doesn't have the stomach or fortitude to carry it out.
What ever happend to the investigations with Bidens son? Graham was on that like stink on poop when it all came out. Said he was gonna have investigations.....glad we aren't holding our breath.
Just the way I look at it...and your rheteroric at this point isn't gonna influence me at all....somethin's gotta happen before I change my mind.
I'm not trying to influence you in any way. My job is to use critical thought and look at Trump's history. My job is to point out the obvious and not rely on leftist media to give me an opinion. (Rhetoric) plays no part in my decision making.
Again, you fail to recognize Barr will do as Trump demands and if he can't, he'll be replaced. And the (Proverbial) (RINO) Grahmnasty has nothing to do with it, Barr and Durham are in charge of investigations Nasty wants to avoid.
Get over yourself Drifter, I am not the enemy here, your media is!
Quote from: drifter106 on May 18, 2020, 10:38:56 AM
Well, Barr has spoken...no criminal investigations involving Obama and Biden are planned. He indicates that criminal activity MAY be focused on others. Did you really expect anything else?
This only shows that there are 2 different judicial systems in America. If Clinton can get away with criminal activity why shouldn't these two get off as well.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/barr-durham-probe
Not at all what he said, but OK...
Quote from: drifter106 on May 18, 2020, 03:40:09 PM
Some people need to be concerned about themselves, using common sense and look at the way events have been handled prior to this event. Reminds me of the preverbal man who wishes for something....chit in one hand and wish in the other. Wait and see which one fills up first. I hope that I am wrong...dead wrong, but Biden and Obama....ain't gonna happen.
Barr doesn't have the balls to push it and the Rhino's in the Senate are gonna cover their asses. Just look at balloon man a.k.a hot air Graham. One of the biggest bull chitters in the Senate....
In the end, Barr is gonna play middle of the road...he knows if he indicts the higher ups the demo's and liberals would come close to starting a war. Doesn't have the stomach or fortitude to carry it out.
What ever happend to the investigations with Bidens son? Graham was on that like stink on poop when it all came out. Said he was gonna have investigations.....glad we aren't holding our breath.
Just the way I look at it...and your rheteroric at this point isn't gonna influence me at all....somethin's gotta happen before I change my mind.
I think you nailed it with what we have in the senate. But I don't agree with your assessment of Barr. Couple of thoughts, this case would have to be air tight to the extent that obama would be tempted to cop a plea, I don't think Bar is there yet, and it would be disastrous to indict and lose. Or, let it be known there is no intent to go after obama, but when clapper, brenner ect start naming him when they are on the stand, then be forced to go after him? Yeah, I know far fetched, but Barr can not let this look like a witch hunt, or political revenge.
Quote from: Possum on May 18, 2020, 05:58:32 PM
I think you nailed it with what we have in the senate. But I don't agree with your assessment of Barr. Couple of thoughts, this case would have to be air tight to the extent that obama would be tempted to cop a plea, I don't think Bar is there yet, and it would be disastrous to indict and lose. Or, let it be known there is no intent to go after obama, but when clapper, brenner ect start naming him when they are on the stand, then be forced to go after him? Yeah, I know far fetched, but Barr can not let this look like a witch hunt, or political revenge.
There is the truth in all of this, it will be a process as the lower level scum throw the elites under the bus.
Barr isn't there yet, but he will be.
Quote from: Solar on May 18, 2020, 07:56:34 PM
There is the truth in all of this, it will be a process as the lower level scum throw the elites under the bus.
Barr isn't there yet, but he will be.
What in the hell do they think Barr's supposed to say? "OK Hussein and Creepy... get ready for GITMO!"
The people on our side who are begging him to ignore the law and behave like a leftist blows my mind. We obey the law and will bring prosecutions legally. The Obamagate crew didn't do that... hence why they're in a world of shit.
Quote from: taxed on May 18, 2020, 08:47:29 PM
What in the hell do they think Barr's supposed to say? "OK Hussein and Creepy... get ready for GITMO!"
The people on our side who are begging him to ignore the law and behave like a leftist blows my mind. We obey the law and will bring prosecutions legally. The Obamagate crew didn't do that... hence why they're in a world of shit.
I'm getting sick of the "I want It Yesterday" crowd! They seem to want to throw process out, the very thing our Republic is based on, the rule of law.
I mean, Hell, if they want to go fascist, so be it, but that will be the end of everything and the world will turn on us. But it appears they really don't give a shit, it's all about "Feelings" and they need to "Feel" something is happening.
I do have the solution, but they don't want to listen when I tell them, "Turn Off The Fuckin TV"! FOX is not their friend, they spun this shit just like every other leftist site out there, and it was all for shock value, a headline to grab the mouth breathers attention.
But did any of them read what was actually said? :rolleyes:
It's pretty straight forward, Durham is not investigating the Marxist.
https://twitter.com/declassified_ET/status/1262732706305077250
Quote from: Solar on May 19, 2020, 07:38:10 AM
It's pretty straight forward, Durham is not investigating the Marxist.
https://twitter.com/declassified_ET/status/1262732706305077250
Not sure what you are implying by this video Solar as it makes it sound pretty depressing for those of us interested in seeing justice done. Do you now feel that nothing will come of this, or that the video is wrong?
Quote from: MichaelJ on May 19, 2020, 08:15:19 AM
Not sure what you are implying by this video Solar as it makes it sound pretty depressing for those of us interested in seeing justice done. Do you now feel that nothing will come of this, or that the video is wrong?
Implying? Hell, it spells it straight out, they are not investigating Obozo or Sleepy Joe, that's why Barr said exactly what he said.
Quote from: MichaelJ on May 19, 2020, 08:15:19 AM
Not sure what you are implying by this video Solar as it makes it sound pretty depressing for those of us interested in seeing justice done. Do you now feel that nothing will come of this, or that the video is wrong?
"Not expecting" does not mean the investigation could not lead to Obama and Biden.
Quote from: supsalemgr on May 19, 2020, 08:21:02 AM
"Not expecting" does not mean the investigation could not lead to Obama and Biden.
I just assumed that was a given. Trump already accused the duo of corruption, so for me, it was a given he will be going after them. I guess it isn't that apparent to everyone. :blink:
Quote from: drifter106 on May 18, 2020, 10:38:56 AM
Well, Barr has spoken...no criminal investigations involving Obama and Biden are planned. He indicates that criminal activity MAY be focused on others. Did you really expect anything else?
This only shows that there are 2 different judicial systems in America. If Clinton can get away with criminal activity why shouldn't these two get off as well.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/barr-durham-probe
:thumbsup:
Quote from: supsalemgr on May 19, 2020, 08:21:02 AM
"Not expecting" does not mean the investigation could not lead to Obama and Biden.
we've not locked up hilliary and if anyone deserves it she does.
Additionally. Biden says he will not pardon President Trump if Biden is elected president. :biggrin:
They hate this president with a passion that ventures into insanity.
Why is that?
https://americauncensored.com/media-really-hates-trump/
Quote from: MichaelJ on May 19, 2020, 08:15:19 AM
Not sure what you are implying by this video Solar as it makes it sound pretty depressing for those of us interested in seeing justice done. Do you now feel that nothing will come of this, or that the video is wrong?
Neither. The fact that Barr isn't going straight for the former President to lock him up now, nor the former VP who's the Dem nominee, doesn't even move my needle.
You've allowed yourself to be manipulated into being upset for some reason.
Quote from: taxed on May 19, 2020, 09:47:31 AM
Neither. The fact that Barr isn't going straight for the former President to lock him up now, nor the former VP who's the Dem nominee, doesn't even move my needle.
You've allowed yourself to be manipulated into being upset for some reason.
I'm not criticizing...i'm just saying I do not like this technique or whatever it is you want to call it.
As conservatives we all have a different view on things. ANd that is fine. That is healthy and it is normal.
The thing that REALLY bothers me, insulting to a degree, is another conservative to tell me (or another conservative) that I/he/she is wrong because we've been mislead or worked up or manipulated. That goes nowhere for building camaraderie and that is something we are going to need..the camaraderie/the alliance. Rather. Explain your point of view and stop there. Let the other person see that and think on it.
NONE of us are right all the time.
Quote from: Calypso Jones on May 19, 2020, 10:18:20 AM
I'm not criticizing...i'm just saying I do not like this technique or whatever it is you want to call it.
As conservatives we all have a different view on things. ANd that is fine. That is healthy and it is normal.
The thing that REALLY bothers me, insulting to a degree, is another conservative to tell me (or another conservative) that I/he/she is wrong because we've been mislead or worked up or manipulated. That goes nowhere for building camaraderie and that is something we are going to need..the camaraderie/the alliance. Rather. Explain your point of view and stop there. Let the other person see that and think on it.
NONE of us are right all the time.
:biggrin:
Being a Conservative is all about the truth, even when it hurts. If we all pretend things are not as they seem (reality), we're no different than the left.
What I've done here is expose FOX for playing leftist tactics of "Tabloid Urinalism", they went with the leftist headline, knowing most people never bother to delineate the truth.
I posted the full video of what Barr said, where he explained that they simply weren't investigating Obozo yet, so this investigation is not focusing on them as of
yet.
Headlines are not news, they are designed to get a reaction, the onus is on you to seek the truth, that's what we do here, we expose the truth.
Quote from: Solar on May 19, 2020, 10:26:49 AM
:biggrin:
Being a Conservative is all about the truth, even when it hurts. If we all pretend things are not as they seem (reality), we're no different than the left.
What I've done here is expose FOX for playing leftist tactics of "Tabloid Urinalism", they went with the leftist headline, knowing most people never bother to delineate the truth.
I posted the full video of what Barr said, where he explained that they simply weren't investigating Obozo yet, so this investigation is not focusing on them as of yet.
Headlines are not news, they are designed to get a reaction, the onus is on you to seek the truth, that's what we do here, we expose the truth.
well the thing is...you know no more than anyone of us. All you're doing is trying to read between the lines for what is there or not there. None of us are privy to the president's thoughts or meetings.
Quote from: Solar on May 19, 2020, 06:33:31 AM
I'm getting sick of the "I want It Yesterday" crowd! They seem to want to throw process out, the very thing our Republic is based on, the rule of law.
I mean, Hell, if they want to go fascist, so be it, but that will be the end of everything and the world will turn on us. But it appears they really don't give a shit, it's all about "Feelings" and they need to "Feel" something is happening.
I do have the solution, but they don't want to listen when I tell them, "Turn Off The Fuckin TV"! FOX is not their friend, they spun this shit just like every other leftist site out there, and it was all for shock value, a headline to grab the mouth breathers attention.
But did any of them read what was actually said? :rolleyes:
Do investigators go after the mob bosses, or do they work their way up the ladder? Barr is acting like an adult who cares about the law and presumption of innocence, and conservatives are losing their f*n minds over it. I just don't get it.
Quote from: taxed on May 19, 2020, 10:47:53 AM
Do investigators go after the mob bosses, or do they work their way up the ladder? Barr is acting like an adult who cares about the law and presumption of innocence, and conservatives are losing their f*n minds over it. I just don't get it.
Exactly! The pawns will gladly throw their betters under the bus for a lighter sentence, there is no loyalty among thieves.
Quote from: Calypso Jones on May 19, 2020, 10:41:54 AM
well the thing is...you know no more than anyone of us. All you're doing is trying to read between the lines for what is there or not there. None of us are privy to the president's thoughts or meetings.
Wrong! It is you falling for a freakin headline! I'm the one posting exactly what the article was about.
Have you even read the thing or watched the Barr video I posted?
Quote from: Calypso Jones on May 19, 2020, 10:41:54 AM
well the thing is...you know no more than anyone of us. All you're doing is trying to read between the lines for what is there or not there. None of us are privy to the president's thoughts or meetings.
Have you ever seen cops give a presser and say "so-and-so isn't a suspect at this time", and then later after the case is done, you find out they knew it was that person?
Quote from: taxed on May 19, 2020, 11:06:31 AM
Have you ever seen cops give a presser and say "so-and-so isn't a suspect at this time", and then later after the case is done, you find out they knew it was that person?
Q just posted about this.
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How about a nice game of chess.
https://thechessworld.com/articles/middle-game/chess-strategy-what-do-you-need-to-know-about-strategy-and-tactics/📁
Objective [end]: checkmate king
Do you attack the king at the beginning of the game?
Do you attack and remove pawns first?
Do you attack and remove bishops, rooks, knights next?
Do you attack and remove queen mid-to-end?
Is the game being played public or private?
Do emotions affect critical thinking?
Add: important king control pieces [elim rogue elements]?
Add: how do you set the stage [board] re: public opinion [optics]?
"At this time."
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Quote from: taxed on May 19, 2020, 11:06:31 AM
Have you ever seen cops give a presser and say "so-and-so isn't a suspect at this time", and then later after the case is done, you find out they knew it was that person?
yes. and I've seen the alternative too.
That still only leaves you with a 50/50 chance.
I'm just saying. Don't be criticizing others for their differing opinions, especially...especially if they are conservative and on your side by calling them manipulated and similar terms. BECAUSE none of us are privy to the information.
Quote from: Calypso Jones on May 19, 2020, 11:31:41 AM
yes. and I've seen the alternative too.
That still only leaves you with a 50/50 chance.
I'm just saying. Don't be criticizing others for their differing opinions, especially...especially if they are conservative and on your side by calling them manipulated and similar terms. BECAUSE none of us are privy to the information.
Don't take my assessment of your opinion as "criticism". I just think it's unnecessary emotion that someone on TV conjured up. Barr said nothing unreasonable, unexpected, or unjust. He actually answered exactly as I hope he wood.
You're upset because Barr didn't say he's going to arrest Hussein and Creepy. Think about that.
I think Barr is playing it just right. If you get a hold of a few of his minions, and squeeze them hard enough, someone is going to sing. Then you use the canary to catch the cat.
Quote from: Cross Peen on May 19, 2020, 01:10:10 PM
I think Barr is playing it just right. If you get a hold of a few of his minions, and squeeze them hard enough, someone is going to sing. Then you use the canary to catch the cat.
Exactly... and like Trump said when he fired Comey, "it was like throwing a rock at a hornets' nest" with them sniping and turning on each other.
I have a feeling Durham has a few centuries' worth of convictions banked already...