Quote from: drifter106 on May 06, 2020, 06:12:39 PM
Trump aslo appointed Sessions

That was a good move.  It seems you disagree.

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, Mathis and Tillerson.  Were they team players? 

So?

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How quickly we forget....

Forget what?

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In the end, I hope I am wrong about Wray...but to many instances of his actions or lack thereof leads me to believe he is on the wrong side.  If and when all the smokes clear and it shows he is a team player, I will humbly come before ye, on my knees and beg for your pardon!   

I have no insight into Wray's soul, but if I'm going to label someone as evil and a traitor to the country, I need some sort of evidence.  Properly keeping grand jury material safe from traitors like Schiff and Feinstein, while providing it to the prosecutors in secret doesn't rise to the level of "traitor" to me.

I think history will be kind to Sessions, Rosenstein, and Wray.  We're also about to get a bunch of new transcripts, so it will be interesting to see where things line up.  Hopefully you can switch to an open mind on this whole thing, because it's incredibly fascinating (at least for me) to track the behind-the-scenes battle.

If I  may give you two articles, both from Jeff Carlson, who I think is _the_ definitive source on Spygate.


This one is about the head up to, and shortly after, the election. It's about Admiral Mike Rogers (then-head of NSA) when he caught the illegal queries and shut it down.  Also, after the election, he flew to NY to meet with Trump at Trump Tower to tell them Hussein was spying on him... he moved the transition team to his New Jersey property the next day.

https://themarketswork.com/2018/01/10/an-american-hero-the-death-of-a-fisa-narrative/



This one covers the "Nine days in May", from the moment Comey was fired up to the appointment of Mueller.  It was a fascinating, dense sequence of events that, I believe, really saved things from going off the rails.

https://themarketswork.com/2018/12/08/nine-days-in-may-the-quiet-struggle-between-rosenstein-and-mccabe/


The first one is a little longer than the second, but they're good foundations for the entire story.  It's my hope you can appreciate the story instead of calling people, who likely are good guys in the story, as "traitors"; I just post that because you seem to have a glimmer of an open mind.  If you don't ready them, no biggie....

thanks for the links...FYI, I just watched OUT OF SHADOWS OFFICIAL clip from the "Q" thread.  That was an eye opener for me.  Yes, I do consider myself to be opened minded.  However, as with most people there needs to be evidence, solid evidence to change my way of thinking or interrupting the facts.  Doesn't bother me to admit that I am wrong but the information must be convincing.

At the moment, I am trying to learn more about this Q thing.  Sent Solar a PM asking for more information as it pertains to Q.  I have this gut feeling that I maybe in for an "eye opener".

As time moves forward I am becoming more skeptical of information that one gets these days.  Especially after watching the video OUT OF SHADOWS.....

Quote from: drifter106 on May 06, 2020, 10:51:32 PM
thanks for the links...FYI, I just watched OUT OF SHADOWS OFFICIAL clip from the "Q" thread.  That was an eye opener for me.  Yes, I do consider myself to be opened minded.  However, as with most people there needs to be evidence, solid evidence to change my way of thinking or interrupting the facts.  Doesn't bother me to admit that I am wrong but the information must be convincing.

At the moment, I am trying to learn more about this Q thing.  Sent Solar a PM asking for more information as it pertains to Q.  I have this gut feeling that I maybe in for an "eye opener".

As time moves forward I am becoming more skeptical of information that one gets these days.  Especially after watching the video OUT OF SHADOWS.....

That's a long road ahead....

Quote from: drifter106 on May 06, 2020, 10:51:32 PM
thanks for the links...FYI, I just watched OUT OF SHADOWS OFFICIAL clip from the "Q" thread.  That was an eye opener for me.  Yes, I do consider myself to be opened minded.  However, as with most people there needs to be evidence, solid evidence to change my way of thinking or interrupting the facts.  Doesn't bother me to admit that I am wrong but the information must be convincing.

At the moment, I am trying to learn more about this Q thing.  Sent Solar a PM asking for more information as it pertains to Q.  I have this gut feeling that I maybe in for an "eye opener".

As time moves forward I am becoming more skeptical of information that one gets these days.  Especially after watching the video OUT OF SHADOWS.....

know what you mean, when we look to the government for answers we are in trouble.

Quote from: Calypso Jones on May 06, 2020, 02:07:31 PM
Mueller has hurt The President.  Rather than to say The president is innocent because there is no evidence to show otherwise,  He said,
'there is no evidence to show this president is guilty.  This insinuates that this president is guilty,  we just can't find the evidence.

He left hope in the black hearts of the left.  And did not ruin himself in the eyes of his co conspirators.

You are certainly quick to give these guys the cover as the left does.   I don't get this.  IN spite of everything....you contend Wray is innocent?  And mueller is ethical?  Look further into their histories.   

Please use the quote function so we know who you are referring to...Thanks.....

Now to your concerns. It was illegal for Mueller to have the 2nd part of the report. That's the part you are missing...it wasn't Mueller's job to convict or exonerate. Here is Ratcliffe just destroying Mueller about what's troubling you in Mueller report.

Please watch the five minutes of the Ratcliffe and Mueller exchange. It's art. This is why the democrats, commies, rinos and some republicans (Burr) don't want Ratcliffe to head the DNI. He will expose and bring forth everything about this coup.

https://twitter.com/thebradfordfile/status/1257694425687482374

Quote from: Killer Clouds on May 06, 2020, 07:51:37 PM
Trump hasn't fired Wray because Trump is shitty at making personnel decisions.

If you only had a fraction of a clue as to just how fuckin stupid that comment was. Seriously!

Quote from: taxed on May 05, 2020, 05:59:30 PM
For cooperating with the Attorney General and John Durham?

Did you vote for Hillary?

Once again, you DON'T know people. I voted for Trump!

Quote from: Mercy Otis Warren on May 07, 2020, 04:45:01 PM

Once again, you DON'T know people. I voted for Trump!

I'm very thankful you did.

Quote from: taxed on May 05, 2020, 06:57:48 PM
(* sigh *)

From today:

https://twitter.com/Techno_Fog/status/1257759586733428736

A twitter thread is your PROOF?

Quote from: Mercy Otis Warren on May 07, 2020, 04:47:39 PM

A twitter thread is your PROOF?

Well, he's an expert attorney on this subject, but see that little string of letters that are colored blue?  That's a link.  Click it and it brings up the article.

Quote from: drifter106 on May 05, 2020, 09:40:02 PM
Thats PR bullshit....haven't we heard Trump say "flowery" things about people?  But you know he wasn't speaking from his heart.  When RBG dies don't you think he will be anxious to get another conservative on the bench?  Yea...he will dress it up and give her a lot of praise (flowery words).  But you and everyone else knows that he is waiting for it to happen.  When everything is laid out we will see who is gonna cover their ass. 

In so far as Wray....why didn't he weed out some of the people in the FBI that are mentioned in this link?  The people that Comey sent over to the WH to interview Flynn.  They told Flynn you don't need a lawyer....They were part of the setup to get Flynn fired and/or part of the big picture to get Trump.

As of now they have been transferred to other places in the FBI, they are part of the deep state.

Wray is gonna do what he has to do to cover his butt.. I trust him just as far as CJ can spit.

this can shed some light on it...

[img]https://townhall.com/columnists/mattvespa/2020/05/05/after-fbis-flynn-entrapment-scheme-exposed-the-institution-needs-a-healthy-dose-of-institutional-colon-blow-n2568187/img]


here is another link on squeaky clean Mr. Wray from Rep. Jim Jordan on fox news....

scroll down on the left side...

https://video.foxnews.com/v/6154323686001#sp=show-clips

Thank you Drifter!

Quote from: Mercy Otis Warren on May 07, 2020, 04:49:09 PM

Thank you Drifter!

Inside FBI director Chris Wray's fate
https://www.axios.com/fbi-michael-flynn-chris-wray-trump-00c13ada-569b-4f5e-bfa3-354b794ea9e0.html

Pressure builds in Trumpworld to fire FBI director Christopher Wray
https://www.axios.com/fbi-christopher-wray-trump-bongino-gorka-36bfbf46-96e2-41cb-93c3-31b362319c3b.html

Quote from: Mercy Otis Warren on May 07, 2020, 05:24:00 PM
Inside FBI director Chris Wray's fate
https://www.axios.com/fbi-michael-flynn-chris-wray-trump-00c13ada-569b-4f5e-bfa3-354b794ea9e0.html

Pressure builds in Trumpworld to fire FBI director Christopher Wray
https://www.axios.com/fbi-christopher-wray-trump-bongino-gorka-36bfbf46-96e2-41cb-93c3-31b362319c3b.html

Fake news.  The Trump circle doesn't leak.  The only thing that just happened is whoever did leak this fake news just got busted.  If you followed Trump, you'd know they leak out fake news to flush out leakers.

Wray is not getting fired, especially when Barr supports him.

Please don't post crap citing "sources" unless you're calling them out or busting them...

Quote from: taxed on May 07, 2020, 05:29:24 PM
Fake news.  The Trump circle doesn't leak.  The only thing that just happened is whoever did leak this fake news just got busted.  If you followed Trump, you'd know they leak out fake news to flush out leakers.

Wray is not getting fired, especially when Barr supports him.

Please don't post crap citing "sources" unless you're calling them out or busting them...

Exactly!!!

"President Trump is not happy with FBI director Christopher Wray and would love to replace him, according to three sources who've discussed the matter with the president."

I'll translate: CNN and MSNBC asked Trump if he was content with Wray, Trump responds, "I hate Fake news, I'd love to replace you all"!!!

Media prints story: "President Trump is not happy with FBI director Christopher Wray and would love to replace him"

Who knows, but without naming an actual source, these should be taken with a grain of salt and a roll of TP.