How is Chump doing now? :rolleyes:
CBS News 6/9 - 6/13 1048 RV 4.0 43 37 Clinton +6
Rasmussen Reports 6/14 - 6/15 1000 LV 3.0 44 39 Clinton +5
Reuters/Ipsos 6/11 - 6/15 1323 RV 2.8 41 32 Clinton +9
Bloomberg* 6/10 - 6/13 750 LV 3.6 49 37 Clinton +12
FOX News 6/5 - 6/8 1004 RV 3.0 42 39 Clinton +3
Economist/YouGov 6/2 - 6/5 1636 RV 3.6 44 41 Clinton +3
IBD/TIPP 5/31 - 6/5 850 RV 3.3 45 40 Clinton +5
Quinnipiac 5/24 - 5/30 1561 RV 2.5 45 41 Clinton +4
:lol:
Trump supporters in denial?
Quote from: tac on June 17, 2016, 08:07:51 AM
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Trump supporters in denial?
Or completely clueless as to just how hated the lib really is.
When I see Trumpanzees post as if Trump has some sort of lock on the election, I wonder if his 'Secret Decoder Ring' is stuck on stupid and the only sites the moron visits is Breitbart and the likes.
RCP Averages
Battleground States
FL - Clinton +1.6
OH - Clinton +1.4
VA - Clinton +4
PA - Clinton +4
IA - Clinton +4
NH - Clinton +6.5
Blue States Trump Vowed He'd Turn Red
MI - Clinton +4
WI - Clinton +11 (Cruz was tied w/ Clinton before dropping out)
NY - Clinton +20.8
MA - Clinton +30
Very Red States That Are Now Battleground
AZ - Clinton +1 (Won by Romney by 9%)
SC - Trump +5 (Won by Romney by 12%)
MS - Trump +3 (Won by Romney by 12%)
KY - Clinton +3 (Won by Romney by 23%)
UT - Trump +4.5 (Won by Romney by 48%)
Makes you wonder if the pubs will lose both houses of CONgress as well as the WH?
Quote from: tac on June 17, 2016, 09:14:03 AM
Makes you wonder if the pubs will lose both houses of CONgress as well as the WH?
Donald is handing Hillary 100% full control, just like Barak had for the first couple of year, a veto proof majority.
Quote from: Solar on June 17, 2016, 07:54:01 AM
How is Chump doing now? :rolleyes:
CBS News 6/9 - 6/13 1048 RV 4.0 43 37 Clinton +6
Rasmussen Reports 6/14 - 6/15 1000 LV 3.0 44 39 Clinton +5
Reuters/Ipsos 6/11 - 6/15 1323 RV 2.8 41 32 Clinton +9
Bloomberg* 6/10 - 6/13 750 LV 3.6 49 37 Clinton +12
FOX News 6/5 - 6/8 1004 RV 3.0 42 39 Clinton +3
Economist/YouGov 6/2 - 6/5 1636 RV 3.6 44 41 Clinton +3
IBD/TIPP 5/31 - 6/5 850 RV 3.3 45 40 Clinton +5
Quinnipiac 5/24 - 5/30 1561 RV 2.5 45 41 Clinton +4
(Just trying to make the columns more readable)
Polling organization Date Sample MOE C T Margin
CBS News 6/9 - 6/13 1048 RV 4.0 43 37 Clinton +6
Rasmussen Reports 6/14 - 6/15 1000 LV 3.0 44 39 Clinton +5
Reuters/Ipsos 6/11 - 6/15 1323 RV 2.8 41 32 Clinton +9
Bloomberg* 6/10 - 6/13 750 LV 3.6 49 37 Clinton +12
FOX News 6/5 - 6/8 1004 RV 3.0 42 39 Clinton +3
Economist/YouGov 6/2 - 6/5 1636 RV 3.6 44 41 Clinton +3
IBD/TIPP 5/31 - 6/5 850 RV 3.3 45 40 Clinton +5
Quinnipiac 5/24 - 5/30 1561 RV 2.5 45 41 Clinton +4
RV = Registered voters
LV = Likely voters
MOE = Margin Of Error
Quote from: je_freedom on June 17, 2016, 10:28:30 PM
(Just trying to make the columns more readable)
Polling organization Date Sample MOE C T Margin
CBS News 6/9 - 6/13 1048 RV 4.0 43 37 Clinton +6
Rasmussen Reports 6/14 - 6/15 1000 LV 3.0 44 39 Clinton +5
Reuters/Ipsos 6/11 - 6/15 1323 RV 2.8 41 32 Clinton +9
Bloomberg* 6/10 - 6/13 750 LV 3.6 49 37 Clinton +12
FOX News 6/5 - 6/8 1004 RV 3.0 42 39 Clinton +3
Economist/YouGov 6/2 - 6/5 1636 RV 3.6 44 41 Clinton +3
IBD/TIPP 5/31 - 6/5 850 RV 3.3 45 40 Clinton +5
Quinnipiac 5/24 - 5/30 1561 RV 2.5 45 41 Clinton +4
RV = Registered voters
LV = Likely voters
MOE = Margin Of Error
To quote Larry Sabato, "It is June." One must understand the MSM is getting ready to go full bore for Hillary and the spin will be along those lines. Also, I am of the opinion Trump support is understated. I think there are a lot of folks who will vote for Trump, but won't tell a poster or anybody else.
Disclaimer: I am not a Trump supporter just expressing what I think reality is. Hillary is a turd and as hard as one may try it cannot be shined.
Quote from: supsalemgr on June 18, 2016, 04:35:37 AM
To quote Larry Sabato, "It is June." One must understand the MSM is getting ready to go full bore for Hillary and the spin will be along those lines. Also, I am of the opinion Trump support is understated. I think there are a lot of folks who will vote for Trump, but won't tell a poster or anybody else.
Disclaimer: I am not a Trump supporter just expressing what I think reality is. Hillary is a turd and as hard as one may try it cannot be shined.
Unfortunately Trump is ALSO a turd. And unlike Hilary, incapable of putting a sentence together that isn't gibberish. Hilary screeches, but after you get past her "nails on a blackboard" voice, she's speaking American English. Not only is Trump ranting in tongues, whatever he's saying, you can be sure he'll change tomorrow. Or in an hour. Or somewhere in the same rant.
Quote from: Hoofer on June 17, 2016, 04:18:46 PM
Donald is handing Hillary 100% full control, just like Barak had for the first couple of year, a veto proof majority.
If she is elected and has full control, she will finish what Obozo has been working on for 8 years. Total destruction of the country, and total socialist control. Think Venezuela.
Quote from: tac on June 18, 2016, 12:15:36 PM
If she is elected and has full control, she will finish what Obozo has been working on for 8 years. Total destruction of the country, and total socialist control. Think Venezuela.
Yeah, a couple of guys at work are buying $100 silver bars - I'm gonna start buying Toilet paper and saving B&W news print. It's not bad, the old Sears catalog, let the humidity soften it up, is like a extra-large 1000 sheet roll of Scotts.
Quote from: Hoofer on June 18, 2016, 03:40:42 PM
Yeah, a couple of guys at work are buying $100 silver bars - I'm gonna start buying Toilet paper and saving B&W news print. It's not bad, the old Sears catalog, let the humidity soften it up, is like a extra-large 1000 sheet roll of Scotts.
TP might be worth more than the silver or gold if the SHTF. But there's also a wet rag or sponge!
Quote from: Solar on June 17, 2016, 07:54:01 AM
How is Chump doing now? :rolleyes:
CBS News 6/9 - 6/13 1048 RV 4.0 43 37 Clinton +6
Rasmussen Reports 6/14 - 6/15 1000 LV 3.0 44 39 Clinton +5
Reuters/Ipsos 6/11 - 6/15 1323 RV 2.8 41 32 Clinton +9
Bloomberg* 6/10 - 6/13 750 LV 3.6 49 37 Clinton +12
FOX News 6/5 - 6/8 1004 RV 3.0 42 39 Clinton +3
Economist/YouGov 6/2 - 6/5 1636 RV 3.6 44 41 Clinton +3
IBD/TIPP 5/31 - 6/5 850 RV 3.3 45 40 Clinton +5
Quinnipiac 5/24 - 5/30 1561 RV 2.5 45 41 Clinton +4
Is this pre or post bump since Hillary became the presumptive nominee? I'd imagine it's just going to get worse for Trump...
Quote from: tac on June 18, 2016, 04:28:44 PM
TP might be worth more than the silver or gold if the SHTF. But there's also a wet rag or sponge!
Funny, I always thought that the post-apocalyptic currency would be ammunition.
Quote from: mdgiles on June 18, 2016, 07:06:48 AM
Unfortunately Trump is ALSO a turd. And unlike Hilary, incapable of putting a sentence together that isn't gibberish. Hilary screeches, but after you get past her "nails on a blackboard" voice, she's speaking American English. Not only is Trump ranting in tongues, whatever he's saying, you can be sure he'll change tomorrow. Or in an hour. Or somewhere in the same rant.
:lol: Nailed it, squire! Ranting in tongues, indeed!
Quote from: tac on June 17, 2016, 09:14:03 AM
Makes you wonder if the pubs will lose both houses of CONgress as well as the WH?
The way this Congress has behaved, you mean the GOP hadn't lost both chambers already? The way they treated Cruz, the real question should be, why vote for anything they try to sell us? They didn't cut Trump off when they could have, offered up inferior alternatives, and now are facing eight more years of socialism...without any semblance of a real fight.
Unfortunately, that leaves us with a criminal skank who belongs in leg irons, reducing big rocks to driveway gravel. Yumpin' Yiminy, this is not an alternative, it's a national insult.
Quote from: quiller on June 18, 2016, 11:09:37 PM
The way this Congress has behaved, you mean the GOP hadn't lost both chambers already? The way they treated Cruz, the real question should be, why vote for anything they try to sell us? They didn't cut Trump off when they could have, offered up inferior alternatives, and now are facing eight more years of socialism...without any semblance of a real fight.
Unfortunately, that leaves us with a criminal skank who belongs in leg irons, reducing big rocks to driveway gravel. Yumpin' Yiminy, this is not an alternative, it's a national insult.
I don't think the GOP cares if there is a socialist regime in power and long as they are part of the power elite that runs the country. They won't want for food or toilet paper.
Quote from: tac on June 19, 2016, 05:15:17 AM
I don't think the GOP cares if there is a socialist regime in power and long as they are part of the power elite that runs the country. They won't want for food or toilet paper.
They may end up wanting for life. Contrary to what Leftist films keep telling us, Americans aren't going to allow themselves to be ruined by a statist elite in any "Capital". The country will go the civil war route first.
Quote from: tac on June 19, 2016, 05:15:17 AM
I don't think the GOP cares if there is a socialist regime in power and long as they are part of the power elite that runs the country. They won't want for food or toilet paper.
You nailed it and just explained GOPe leadership has done nothing with control of congress. Don't rock the boat is their theme.
Quote from: mdgiles on June 19, 2016, 08:19:27 AM
They may end up wanting for life. Contrary to what Leftist films keep telling us, Americans aren't going to allow themselves to be ruined by a statist elite in any "Capital". The country will go the civil war route first.
We ALREADY allowed our ruination, squire. We kept term limits out of the equation, the one thing which guarantees fresh eyes on any set of circumstances with every new Congress. That "statist elite" is the same bureaucracy which openly withstands every assault (as did the recent IRS decision to ignore easier guidelines for firing bad employees---JUST as the IRS commissioner was facing heat by both Senate and House members).
We have permanent unelected leeches hiding out in six-figure salaries with absolutely obscene levels of influence, totally invisible except to us hardcore mainline politics geeks. They hide in plain sight and blame everyone else when the pressures get intense. They will survive any term of Congress and, most likely, any concerted effort to flush them out for a well-deserved double dose of rock-salt or birdshot, followed by tar, feathers and a hearty rail to ride getting hustled out of town.
Quote from: Hoofer on June 18, 2016, 03:40:42 PM
Yeah, a couple of guys at work are buying $100 silver bars - I'm gonna start buying Toilet paper and saving B&W news print. It's not bad, the old Sears catalog, let the humidity soften it up, is like a extra-large 1000 sheet roll of Scotts.
LOL...
Seriously, we have been moving to a more self sustaining lifestyle for awhile, We have three grandchildren to worry about. If we are all wrong and its going to be rainbows and unicorn farts then so be it, we have enjoyed everything we have been doing, but if like I suspect were headed for a Venezuela x2 we at least can take care of our own and most of our neighbors :)
Quote from: tac on June 18, 2016, 04:28:44 PM
TP might be worth more than the silver or gold if the SHTF. But there's also a wet rag or sponge!
LOL
Yeah...if ya don't mind hauling five gallons of water, 2 miles up the hollow to wipe your butt. ;~)
Quote from: jdzbrain on June 21, 2016, 08:46:59 AM
LOL
Yeah...if ya don't mind hauling five gallons of water, 2 miles up the hollow to wipe your butt. ;~)
:lol: That a lib for ya! Why do you need 5 gal of water to wipe your ass? And if so why not do your job before going up the hollow? Damn you need some survival skills. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote from: jdzbrain on June 21, 2016, 08:46:59 AM
LOL
Yeah...if ya don't mind hauling five gallons of water, 2 miles up the hollow to wipe your butt. ;~)
If you don't have access to 5 gallons of water without hauling it 2 miles, you might want to think about moving.
Quote from: tac on June 21, 2016, 09:19:25 AM
If you don't have access to 5 gallons of water without hauling it 2 miles, you might want to think about moving.
I remember back in my day we had to walk to school uphill both ways. :rolleyes:
Quote from: tac on June 21, 2016, 09:19:25 AM
If you don't have access to 5 gallons of water without hauling it 2 miles, you might want to think about moving.
Now why would I do that? I got all the deer a man can eat out my back door. ;~)
If the plop hits the prop so bad that hoarded TP is worth it's weight in gold...you'll be carrying water too. There won't be public utilities unless you live in a city...MAYBE there will be in cities. Country folk will be on their own. ;~0
But that's ok. A country boy will survive. ;~)
Quote from: jdzbrain on June 21, 2016, 09:40:39 AM
Now why would I do that? I got all the deer a man can eat out my back door. ;~)
If the plop hits the prop so bad that hoarded TP is worth it's weight in gold...you'll be carrying water too. There won't be public utilities unless you live in a city...MAYBE there will be in cities. Country folk will be on their own. ;~0
But that's ok. A country boy will survive. ;~)
Two words. Baby Wipes.
Quote from: Solar on June 21, 2016, 10:18:51 AM
Two words. Baby Wipes.
YEP....
I'm a big believer in buying tools that serve more than one purpose. Baby Wipes are a good, compact store for emergency preparations. They even work in a pinch for bug bites or cut and wound treatment.
Quote from: jdzbrain on June 22, 2016, 10:21:58 PM
YEP....
I'm a big believer in buying tools that serve more than one purpose. Baby Wipes are a good, compact store for emergency preparations. They even work in a pinch for bug bites or cut and wound treatment.
Yep, quite versatile, and even dried out and layered can make a good filtration system for emergency water, or writing paper when dried out again.
I keep several cases around all the time. Great invention...
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Well Trumpers, like we've been saying, you guys really like Hillary!
Quote from: taxed on June 23, 2016, 06:50:43 AM
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Well Trumpers, like we've been saying, you guys really like Hillary!
In Trump's defense, he's not an NY Carpetbagger....
How sad is that? The only good thing one can say about Trump, is he's a genuine Ny Lib. :lol:
Trump's social media director tweeted this out yesterday...
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Wow, Donnie's up by a big +9 points in Utah! Great job trying to spin that as good news when actually its a perfect display of how dire things are...
Utah Results
2012 - Romney +48
2008 - McCain +28
2004 - Bush +46
2000 - Bush +41
1996 - Dole +21
1992 - Bush +20
1988 - Bush +34
1984 - Reagan +50
1980 - Reagan +52
1976 - Ford +30
1972 - Nixon +41
1968 - Nixon +20
Thats a Republican win in Utah of an average of 35.91% in the last 12 presidential elections. Romney, in just the last election, score the biggest win margin in Utah since Reagan in '84. Even McCain and Dole managed to score +20 point wins in Utah!
If things continue to head south (which theres no reason to believe otherwise) the state of Utah could be handed back to Democrats for the first time since LBJ in 1964 - 52 years.
Cant wait to see how Donnie will try and spin that if that were to happen. Oh, thats right, he will make up for it by turning NY and CA red as he said would :rolleyes:
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Wow something to crow about! :lol: